Expert IOE
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Re: Expert IOE
congrats
(almost) impossible to beat without guessing
(almost) impossible to beat without guessing
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Re: Expert IOE
if u open 4/8 openings in the beginning and,get higher 3bv board, u have some chance to beat it for example u can waste even 5 clicks on 250 3bv board
0.49 - 7.03 - 31.13
NF: 0.49 - 7.03 - 31.51
NF: 0.49 - 7.03 - 31.51
Re: Expert IOE
time-concerned IOE WR for NF: (keep updating)
31.551s ioe=0.693 3bv=106 op=13 clicks=153 by Kamil Muranski, Poland, 2012-04-28
32.020s ioe=0.736 3bv=131 op=11 clicks=178 by Wei-Jia Guo, PRC, 2020-03-14
33.250s ioe=0.789 3bv=131 op=9 clicks=166 by Wei-Jia Guo, PRC, 2019-04-15
35.080s ioe=0.811 3bv=154 op=8 clicks=190 by Wei-Jia Guo, PRC, 2020-02-29
35.270s ioe=0.837 3bv=128 op=7 clicks=153 by Shao-Wu Zhang, PRC, 2019-11-09
36.670s ioe=0.848 3bv=156 op=8 clicks=184 by Wei-Jia Guo, PRC, 2019-03-23
36.960s ioe=0.857 3bv=144 op=8 clicks=168 by Wei-Jia Guo, PRC, 2016-08-19
39.430s ioe=0.867 3bv=170 op=8 clicks=196 by Wei-Jia Guo, PRC, 2018-03-30
40.749s ioe=0.894 3bv=161 op=7 clicks=180 by Shao-Wu Zhang, PRC, 2018-12-15
56.800s ioe=0.899 3bv=178 op=12 clicks=198 by Kai Sun, PRC, 2013-07-12
58.750s ioe=0.903 3bv=234 op=8 clicks=259 by Wei-Hao Gao, PRC, 2016-09-28
60.210s ioe=0.927 3bv=202 op=5 clicks=218 by Kai Sun, PRC, 2014-08-02 (log on 2015-02-14: highest IOE normal play)
75.790s ioe=0.960 3bv=144 op=10 clicks=150 by Jin-Fan Lin, PRC, 2015-11-25
92.850s ioe=0.975 3bv=154 op=10 clicks=158 by Jin-Fan Lin, PRC, 2015-11-25
101.477s ioe=0.979 3bv=184 op=8 clicks=188 by Kamil Muranski, Poland, 2009-04-11
131.120s ioe=0.982 3bv=165 op=10 clicks=168 by Jin-Fan Lin, PRC, 2015-10-06
134.120s ioe=0.984 3bv=189 op=10 clicks=192 by Jin-Fan Lin, PRC, 2016-09-27
Replays
---------------Best IOE(>0.9) I have known--------------
Jin-Fan Lin 0.984 (3bv=189 op=10 clicks=192, 2016-09-27)
Kamil Muranski 0.979 (3bv=184 op=8 clicks=188, 2009-04-11)
jovilly 0.978 (3bv=136 op=11 clicks=139, 2021-07-25)
Wei-Jia Guo 0.970 (3bv=159 op=12 clicks=164, 2015-02-19)
Shao-Wu Zhang 0.969 (3bv=185 op=11 clicks=191, 2018-02-03)
Chun-Xi Liu 0.964 (3bv=188 op=8 clicks=195, 2012-07-01)
Kwok-Lun Lau 0.959 (3bv=209 op=11 clicks=218, 2019-08-16)
Michael Gottlieb 0.957 (3bv=200 op=8 clicks=209, 2010-09-10)
Jun Tao 0.950 (3bv=208 op=11 clicks=219, x2, 2011-08-26, 2013-07-15)
Judith Laister 0.942 (3bv=148 op=13 clicks=157, unknown)
Peng-Yun Ni 0.942 (3bv=178 op=10 clicks=189, 2012-09-26)
Kai Sun 0.927 (3bv=202 op=5 clicks=218, normal play, 2014-08-02)
Michał Szoplik 0.923 (3bv=169 op=12 clicks=183, 2021-07-26)
Xiao-Zheng Miao 0.917 (3bv=222 op=8 clicks=242, 2019-06-12)
Yan-Lin Pan 0.916 (3bv=197 op=8 clicks=215, 2017-06-23)
Shi-Ying Lin 0.909 (3bv=219 op=9 clicks=241, normal play, 2015-07-06)
EWQMinesweeper 0.905 (according to his post, before 2009-04-07)
Wei-Hao Gao 0.903 (3bv=234 op=8 clicks=259, normal play, 2016-09-28)
Yun-Zhe Zhu 0.902 (3bv=166 op=7 clicks=184, 2015-05-06)
Ming-Xuan Li 0.902 (3bv=166 op=19 clicks=184, 2017-04-28)
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Exp TOP20
31.551s ioe=0.693 3bv=106 op=13 clicks=153 by Kamil Muranski, Poland, 2012-04-28
32.020s ioe=0.736 3bv=131 op=11 clicks=178 by Wei-Jia Guo, PRC, 2020-03-14
33.250s ioe=0.789 3bv=131 op=9 clicks=166 by Wei-Jia Guo, PRC, 2019-04-15
35.080s ioe=0.811 3bv=154 op=8 clicks=190 by Wei-Jia Guo, PRC, 2020-02-29
35.270s ioe=0.837 3bv=128 op=7 clicks=153 by Shao-Wu Zhang, PRC, 2019-11-09
36.670s ioe=0.848 3bv=156 op=8 clicks=184 by Wei-Jia Guo, PRC, 2019-03-23
36.960s ioe=0.857 3bv=144 op=8 clicks=168 by Wei-Jia Guo, PRC, 2016-08-19
39.430s ioe=0.867 3bv=170 op=8 clicks=196 by Wei-Jia Guo, PRC, 2018-03-30
40.749s ioe=0.894 3bv=161 op=7 clicks=180 by Shao-Wu Zhang, PRC, 2018-12-15
56.800s ioe=0.899 3bv=178 op=12 clicks=198 by Kai Sun, PRC, 2013-07-12
58.750s ioe=0.903 3bv=234 op=8 clicks=259 by Wei-Hao Gao, PRC, 2016-09-28
60.210s ioe=0.927 3bv=202 op=5 clicks=218 by Kai Sun, PRC, 2014-08-02 (log on 2015-02-14: highest IOE normal play)
75.790s ioe=0.960 3bv=144 op=10 clicks=150 by Jin-Fan Lin, PRC, 2015-11-25
92.850s ioe=0.975 3bv=154 op=10 clicks=158 by Jin-Fan Lin, PRC, 2015-11-25
101.477s ioe=0.979 3bv=184 op=8 clicks=188 by Kamil Muranski, Poland, 2009-04-11
131.120s ioe=0.982 3bv=165 op=10 clicks=168 by Jin-Fan Lin, PRC, 2015-10-06
134.120s ioe=0.984 3bv=189 op=10 clicks=192 by Jin-Fan Lin, PRC, 2016-09-27
Replays
---------------Best IOE(>0.9) I have known--------------
Jin-Fan Lin 0.984 (3bv=189 op=10 clicks=192, 2016-09-27)
Kamil Muranski 0.979 (3bv=184 op=8 clicks=188, 2009-04-11)
jovilly 0.978 (3bv=136 op=11 clicks=139, 2021-07-25)
Wei-Jia Guo 0.970 (3bv=159 op=12 clicks=164, 2015-02-19)
Shao-Wu Zhang 0.969 (3bv=185 op=11 clicks=191, 2018-02-03)
Chun-Xi Liu 0.964 (3bv=188 op=8 clicks=195, 2012-07-01)
Kwok-Lun Lau 0.959 (3bv=209 op=11 clicks=218, 2019-08-16)
Michael Gottlieb 0.957 (3bv=200 op=8 clicks=209, 2010-09-10)
Jun Tao 0.950 (3bv=208 op=11 clicks=219, x2, 2011-08-26, 2013-07-15)
Judith Laister 0.942 (3bv=148 op=13 clicks=157, unknown)
Peng-Yun Ni 0.942 (3bv=178 op=10 clicks=189, 2012-09-26)
Kai Sun 0.927 (3bv=202 op=5 clicks=218, normal play, 2014-08-02)
Michał Szoplik 0.923 (3bv=169 op=12 clicks=183, 2021-07-26)
Xiao-Zheng Miao 0.917 (3bv=222 op=8 clicks=242, 2019-06-12)
Yan-Lin Pan 0.916 (3bv=197 op=8 clicks=215, 2017-06-23)
Shi-Ying Lin 0.909 (3bv=219 op=9 clicks=241, normal play, 2015-07-06)
EWQMinesweeper 0.905 (according to his post, before 2009-04-07)
Wei-Hao Gao 0.903 (3bv=234 op=8 clicks=259, normal play, 2016-09-28)
Yun-Zhe Zhu 0.902 (3bv=166 op=7 clicks=184, 2015-05-06)
Ming-Xuan Li 0.902 (3bv=166 op=19 clicks=184, 2017-04-28)
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Exp TOP20
Last edited by pauv on Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:18 am, edited 17 times in total.
ID of msinfo: 3819
ID of saolei: 3706
ID of "League of Minesweeper": 36532
ID of WoM: 770798
ID of saolei: 3706
ID of "League of Minesweeper": 36532
ID of WoM: 770798
Re: Expert IOE
I and Wei-Jia are trying a trick that, click on the middle on the upper bound, if that's an op then click on the middle on the botton for an op, if success try the 4 corners Of course you have no chance to waste click on the boundary of an op if you click at the corner, but click on the middle do. If you see 1 or 2 on the first two clicks, F2 please.
Wei-Jia got a 12 op board that way and set 0.970 ioe record of China with a miss click, thought he has some chance to get sup0.98 sometime.
Click x times of op in the beginning, find other ops by skill with no more than 2 click each op(have chance to use only 1 click if the shape is very good), then the ioe satisfied:
1>=ioe>=3bv/(3bv+op-x)
In Kamil's 0.979 game op=8 x=4 3bv=184 clicks=188=3bv+op-x, so it's the best ioe on that board. If someone is willing to try even higher ioe, get higher 3bv as what Kamil has post, or improve the x to be 6 like we do, or wait for less ops like Kai Sun's game(only 5 ops!), or have luck finding a board which is proper arranged that allowed you waste only 1 click in the next op skill or guessing Anyway you need a lot of time and patience Basically no miss click is allowed
Wei-Jia got a 12 op board that way and set 0.970 ioe record of China with a miss click, thought he has some chance to get sup0.98 sometime.
Click x times of op in the beginning, find other ops by skill with no more than 2 click each op(have chance to use only 1 click if the shape is very good), then the ioe satisfied:
1>=ioe>=3bv/(3bv+op-x)
In Kamil's 0.979 game op=8 x=4 3bv=184 clicks=188=3bv+op-x, so it's the best ioe on that board. If someone is willing to try even higher ioe, get higher 3bv as what Kamil has post, or improve the x to be 6 like we do, or wait for less ops like Kai Sun's game(only 5 ops!), or have luck finding a board which is proper arranged that allowed you waste only 1 click in the next op skill or guessing Anyway you need a lot of time and patience Basically no miss click is allowed
ID of msinfo: 3819
ID of saolei: 3706
ID of "League of Minesweeper": 36532
ID of WoM: 770798
ID of saolei: 3706
ID of "League of Minesweeper": 36532
ID of WoM: 770798
Re: Expert IOE
165 in 168 => 0.982
Success! My theory works!
The 3 wasted clicks:
if you use Clone2007 to watch it(checked "Display Opening"):
Opening 2, Opening 8, Opening 9
if you use Freesweeper to watch it(checked "Openings"):
Opening 6, Opening 7, Opening 2
@0.00s, 63.47s, 97.27s
Success! My theory works!
The 3 wasted clicks:
if you use Clone2007 to watch it(checked "Display Opening"):
Opening 2, Opening 8, Opening 9
if you use Freesweeper to watch it(checked "Openings"):
Opening 6, Opening 7, Opening 2
@0.00s, 63.47s, 97.27s
ID of msinfo: 3819
ID of saolei: 3706
ID of "League of Minesweeper": 36532
ID of WoM: 770798
ID of saolei: 3706
ID of "League of Minesweeper": 36532
ID of WoM: 770798
Re: Expert IOE
I got 1 IOE NF on World of Minesweeper https://minesweeper.online/game/801705135
I believe I'm the first in the world to do this. It was a pretty crazy game
I believe I'm the first in the world to do this. It was a pretty crazy game
Re: Expert IOE
As far as I've known, that's rightllama wrote: ↑Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:42 pm I got 1 IOE NF on World of Minesweeper https://minesweeper.online/game/801705135
I believe I'm the first in the world to do this. It was a pretty crazy game
ID of msinfo: 3819
ID of saolei: 3706
ID of "League of Minesweeper": 36532
ID of WoM: 770798
ID of saolei: 3706
ID of "League of Minesweeper": 36532
ID of WoM: 770798
Re: Expert IOE
the known IOE=1 games till now(ranked by date)
1st minesweeper.online/game/801705135
2nd minesweeper.online/game/839294672
3rd minesweeper.online/game/1139262670
4th minesweeper.online/game/1557210522
1st minesweeper.online/game/801705135
2nd minesweeper.online/game/839294672
3rd minesweeper.online/game/1139262670
4th minesweeper.online/game/1557210522
ID of msinfo: 3819
ID of saolei: 3706
ID of "League of Minesweeper": 36532
ID of WoM: 770798
ID of saolei: 3706
ID of "League of Minesweeper": 36532
ID of WoM: 770798