World Ranking, China Ranking
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:18 pm
The World ranking should have 1759 players but it only has 1256.
The other players are only on the China ranking.
The Chinese community is growing faster than the rest of the world, their website is more advanced, and their community is more active.
For several years I have worried about how the language barrier is hurting the minesweeper community. First I will explain the history of the problem, then I will discuss some problems and ideas. Please share your ideas!
History:
- Clone 2007 does not work on Chinese computers and Rodrigo did not fix the problem.
- When ShenJia Zhang made Saolei.net he chose only Clone 0.97, made the website automatic and retired.
- The World ranking is only in English.
- Clone 0.97 was banned, but players could only submit Clone 0.97 to the China ranking
- Damien kept accepting Clone 0.97 from China: it is hard to tell 10,000 Saolei.net players their scores are technically illegal.
- Clone was banned in June 2013 and ShenJia agreed to make a new version of Saolei.net using Arbiter
- The Chinese community has never been asked to help make ranking rules
Ideas:
- Saolei.net should be the official China country ranking. They can do this better than anyone, MSinfo can delete its ranking.
- When a Chinese player qualifies for the world ranking their scores are shared.
- Automatic score sharing means we MUST approve videos using the same rules
- How to deal with the thousands of scores already on the China ranking?
A Solution?
- Create a new database on MSinfo and ask Saolei.net to upload all records from the 619 players who qualify for a world ranking.
- Damien will look at all videos and make sure they meet rules (3bv limits, lucky, cheating) and categorise them
- Everyone will agree on ranking rules, and they will be written in English and Chinese
- Saolei.net will write code to upload videos once a day to the new database if a new player qualifies for the world ranking or an existing player makes new scores. Following the rules, these will automatically be categorised 'official'.
- Damien will write code so the world ranking uses scores from the new database (Chinese uploads) and the MSinfo database, to create a complete accurate world ranking
This has many benefits: if a score is approved at Saolei.net it does not need to be checked again, the ranking will be complete because sharing is automatic, information sharing agreements will be simple (for example, Saolei.net can own information in the MSinfo China database), privacy is respected (Saolei.net can keep information private for the 10,000 players who do not qualify for the world ranking, and we can choose to not share contact info etc), and it will make the World and Chinese communities grow together better. Then we should translate some parts of MSinfo to Chinese, and Saolei.net to English.
(There are many other projects: both sites are trying to make better Admin areas, both sites are working on users uploading a video and the info being automatically extracted from the video file, the Chinese site is make a unversal video player that works in a web page...)
So what do you think?
The other players are only on the China ranking.
The Chinese community is growing faster than the rest of the world, their website is more advanced, and their community is more active.
For several years I have worried about how the language barrier is hurting the minesweeper community. First I will explain the history of the problem, then I will discuss some problems and ideas. Please share your ideas!
History:
- Clone 2007 does not work on Chinese computers and Rodrigo did not fix the problem.
- When ShenJia Zhang made Saolei.net he chose only Clone 0.97, made the website automatic and retired.
- The World ranking is only in English.
- Clone 0.97 was banned, but players could only submit Clone 0.97 to the China ranking
- Damien kept accepting Clone 0.97 from China: it is hard to tell 10,000 Saolei.net players their scores are technically illegal.
- Clone was banned in June 2013 and ShenJia agreed to make a new version of Saolei.net using Arbiter
- The Chinese community has never been asked to help make ranking rules
Ideas:
- Saolei.net should be the official China country ranking. They can do this better than anyone, MSinfo can delete its ranking.
- When a Chinese player qualifies for the world ranking their scores are shared.
- Automatic score sharing means we MUST approve videos using the same rules
- How to deal with the thousands of scores already on the China ranking?
A Solution?
- Create a new database on MSinfo and ask Saolei.net to upload all records from the 619 players who qualify for a world ranking.
- Damien will look at all videos and make sure they meet rules (3bv limits, lucky, cheating) and categorise them
- Everyone will agree on ranking rules, and they will be written in English and Chinese
- Saolei.net will write code to upload videos once a day to the new database if a new player qualifies for the world ranking or an existing player makes new scores. Following the rules, these will automatically be categorised 'official'.
- Damien will write code so the world ranking uses scores from the new database (Chinese uploads) and the MSinfo database, to create a complete accurate world ranking
This has many benefits: if a score is approved at Saolei.net it does not need to be checked again, the ranking will be complete because sharing is automatic, information sharing agreements will be simple (for example, Saolei.net can own information in the MSinfo China database), privacy is respected (Saolei.net can keep information private for the 10,000 players who do not qualify for the world ranking, and we can choose to not share contact info etc), and it will make the World and Chinese communities grow together better. Then we should translate some parts of MSinfo to Chinese, and Saolei.net to English.
(There are many other projects: both sites are trying to make better Admin areas, both sites are working on users uploading a video and the info being automatically extracted from the video file, the Chinese site is make a unversal video player that works in a web page...)
So what do you think?