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Nov 23rd 2008 at 01:19:36 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Best intermediate:  

10x25 -> x26

Best beginner:  

1x36 -> x37 , IOE 1,545x1 -> 1,545x2

Comments:  

Clone: 10,291 FL on 34, 1,63 on 1 and again 1,545 IOE
Its quite strange, because its exaclty the same score but pop-up window appeared When 1 year ago I tied my int time record 12,011 with the exact time, there was no pop-up window
@joni: I cant upload my vids repair please

   
Nov 23rd 2008 at 01:19:27 PM
Name:  

jsem

Best intermediate:  

35 -> 34

Comments:  

Finally... didn't even notice the record until it popped up :P

   
Nov 23rd 2008 at 02:03:02 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@IMC: do u remeber this strange minesweeper ranking: www.minesweepers.org ? people still send scores there, and probably all of theme believe that Exp WR is 53s Ive linked as website their site with contact, mabe u should tell them about real ranking.

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Nov 22nd 2008 at 09:23:51 AM
Name:  

@joni

Best expert:  

:(

Best intermediate:  

:((

Best beginner:  

:(((

Comments:  

vids broke down

   
Nov 22nd 2008 at 07:16:33 AM
Name:  

Arjádre

Best expert:  

1.117 IOE

Best intermediate:  

1.353 IOE

Best beginner:  

1.619 IOE

Comments:  

@Fritz: Nice work! Right now I'm at 4.089 total IOE (after a sweet 21 clicks on a 34 3BV board on beginner).

@Record breakers:

   
Nov 22nd 2008 at 04:16:45 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@fritz, aris: nice
@Damien: when will u install forum? it takes ages to open guestbook, and 50% times when I try to open it I have to refresh because its not going to open at all

   
Nov 21st 2008 at 08:11:17 AM
Name:  

fritz

Best expert:  

1,128-->1,161

Best intermediate:  

1,313

Best beginner:  

1,545

Comments:  

1,161 ioe on exp on 173 3BV in 149 clicks in 113,180s, 23 flags used

!! sup4 total ioe !!

4,019 total IOE


anyone else has sup4 total IOE??

   
Nov 21st 2008 at 05:02:02 AM
Name:  

Aris

Best intermediate:  

16.994--------->15.843

Comments:  

After two months playing expert with no pop-up window i decided yesterday to play int. and got 3.7xx 3bv/s highscore.and today finished this 43 3bv board in 15s.
so i guess i can play expert again
video in my folder

   
Nov 20th 2008 at 07:44:55 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

And again 3 sub50 in 1 day: 44, 46 and 48
@Bertie: of course we talk about potential boards, so in this way there also can be 1 3bv exp boards
@All: New "Funny board" in my folder:
Exp 8 numbers "4" in row
Also blasted 10,xxx 54/58 NF est 11 @ 5,41

   
Nov 19th 2008 at 11:33:07 PM
Name:  

Gergő

Comments:  

Grats for you all for your results. I did not want to stay behind so I started to play a bit. I made on exp twice sup 2,2; a sup 3, a 17,6 (second best) on int and additional 2x19. On beg I made in two days a 2,95 and a 2,90 on arbiter, both on 5 3BV, and a sup4. And of course I blasted some sup 2,1s and sub 80 on exp, as usual...

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Nov 19th 2008 at 12:49:04 PM
Name:  

fritz

Comments:  

today i broke all my IOE highscores

i now have: 1,333+1,259+1,056=3,648

[it took me only ~15 min to get these scores]

   
Nov 19th 2008 at 08:14:03 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

You guys seemingly forget that 1 3bv boards aren't generated anymore (by the accepted clones). Meaning the answer to the question of what the chances are of getting a 1 3bv board, is 0.

On the IOE. That's an insane IOE on exp!!! *I need to watch that video!!!* Email it to me pls (linked)

ok, bye

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Nov 19th 2008 at 05:54:24 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Best expert:  

RQP 10,844 -> 10,714

Best intermediate:  

10x24 -> x25

Comments:  

Arbiter: 10,77 FL on 40
Arbiter: 43,50 FL on 173 @ 4,06
linked

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Nov 19th 2008 at 03:54:43 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Damien: I think it can be good idea to create a new section: "Boards stats" We can write there all interesting thing: number of all beg/int/exp boards, number of boards with 8, number of 1 3bv or 64 3bv boards on beg etc
@Ian: We solved the problem how many diffenr beg boards with 8 exist, but have u got any idea how to count how many Int boards with 8 are there? There can be more than 1 number 8 in 1 board

   
Nov 19th 2008 at 01:01:48 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Gonçalo dos Santos: I dont really care about my IOE scores, but I have 1,545 on beg (in my folder). I can be wrong but I think I watched the vid of 1,7xx long time ago

   
Nov 19th 2008 at 12:44:21 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Ive just counted that there should be 4426165368 different Beginner boards and only 53460 different boards with 8 So the chance to get board with 8 on beg is 0,0012%
correct me if I made mistakes
btw, yesterday I made 3 sub50

   
Nov 18th 2008 at 05:37:58 PM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

Ian,

Glad you're not dead.

Regards,
Mike

   
Nov 18th 2008 at 05:22:36 PM
Name:  

kyle barry

Comments:  

one day i got three 2-3bv boards and busted each one. 2 were within a 5 minute period the third was hours later and probably over a thousand boards later. I wanted to quit after that. They are in my folder. I only ever got one other 2-3bv board which now my record time.

   
Nov 18th 2008 at 03:50:42 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

* I meant 563.621 out of 151.473.214.816 boards have 1 3BV

But off course you guys already noticed that in a blink of an eye.

   
Nov 18th 2008 at 03:48:28 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Gonçalo: Given it a second thought, I did some calculations and for 1 3BV boards on 8x8 boards it should be close:

56.362.126 out of 151.473.214.816 boards have 1 3BV

With other words about 1 in 270.000

But to make you feel a little less depressed the chances of getting other good boards::
<=2 3BV: ~ 1 : 25.000
<=3 3BV: ~ 1: 6.250

So good luck trying to get one of those boards.

   
Nov 18th 2008 at 03:22:45 PM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

hey, if you guys want to make money, start a website! since i started those 3 ads on the .info page, i'm earning $0.21 a week there's got to be some way to get rich playing minesweeper....

   
Nov 18th 2008 at 02:44:11 PM
Name:  

Ian

Comments:  

Regarding probability: actually Ronny that's not quite true, the bell curve is continuous probability whereas 3BV is a discrete index, and as such the probability is just a (very ugly) fraction for any given 3BV. I don't think the maths of it has been calculated (I can't think of a simple way much better than a brute-force count. Even for beginner this is fairly unattainable, with 151 billion boards, but perhaps we can work out the number of 1 3BV boards.).

   
Nov 18th 2008 at 12:30:34 PM
Name:  

fritz

Best intermediate:  

14,55 | 14x3 ---> 14x4

Comments:  

/me int game --> Time: 14,63 «» Est. Time: 14,63 «» 3BV: 41 (41) «» 3BV/s: 3,00 «» Ranks: 2 / 1266 of 4621 / 86,30% «» RQP: 4,86 :'(

i also had 2*15 today, 1 blasted 13-15 (i messed up the last 10 3BV before i blasted...), 2 more sub5 RQP, 1 blasted sup5 3BV/s....

i have no idea why i'm suddenly in such a good int shape

   
Nov 18th 2008 at 10:56:42 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Gonçalo: Does IOE of expert and intermediate are really impressive. I haven't seen anyone posting higher ones, so it's hard to say what's possible. For beginner you should be able to improve, since I only tried a few beginner boards for high IOE and got 1,375 and I generally suck at IOE. (IOE of 0,6 is very common very me )

About chances, we had a big discussion about what's the average 3BV of boards and some even ran board generators to produce 1000's of boards to figure it out. And the result where: 17, 65 and 174 3BV to be exact. If you keep track of your own average you will most likely see slightly smaller number (i.e. 62 on intermediate) because people tend to deliberately blast high 3BV boards or don't even start boards that start bad.

About the chances of getting a certain 3BV or lower.....well like many probabilities these chances are spread according to a so called 'bell curve' and to find the percentages for a chance out of that you need to perform to find the integral for the formula of that bell curve
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Probability_density_function

My math skills suck nowadays so I won't be able to solve that question for you anymore, but chances of a 1 or 2 3BV on beginner is luckily not 1 in a million, more like 1 in 20.000 I believe.

   
Nov 18th 2008 at 09:52:20 AM
Name:  

Gonçalo dos Santos

Comments:  

Hi, my name is Gonçalo dos Santos, from Lisboa (Portugal). (2,2 + 19 + 70)

I would like to enter tournements but i couldn't go yet. I also doesn't have much time to play as i could, and, for example, here in my work i can play only sometimes, because i make too much noise with the mouse. To prevent that, I sometimes just play for efficience, trying not to make sound. That's why I have this curiosity: you, expert players, have what IOE's if you try just to do the perfect game in IOE? I have 1,35-1,27-1,19. How much is possible to do?

Other thing i would like to ask for the comunity is if there are some statistics for knowing the probability of getting an specific number of 3bv. Something like knowing what is the chance of getting (in beg.) 1, 2 or sub10 3bv. I made a data base of number of 3bv in the begginer, using 1585 games and then i use a normal and a gamma distribution to try to find a graphic that is similar to the probability of distribution. Gamma is the nearest, saying that the chance of getting 1 3bv is above 1 in 1 milion, and only one in 15 are lower than 10 3bv. Does any one knows more about it? and for intermediate and expert? if anyone wants i can send the excel file ( g_dossantos@yahoo.com ).

I also like to suggest something, maybe technicaly difficult, but to increase competition, wouldn't be nice to do a "last year ranking", a ranking where we do not have people that doesn't play the game for a long time? it would be only with the best scores of a player in the last 365 days and , that way, we also keep the ranking that exist but call it "all time ranking" or something like that.

Kind regards and sorry for my english

   
Nov 17th 2008 at 12:21:31 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Best intermediate:  

RQP FL 6,665 -> NF 6,519

Comments:  

@Rogen: Nice overview and congrats. I bet Serpenter must have hated it that he come 1 expert board short for a good ranking.

   
Nov 17th 2008 at 11:18:23 AM
Name:  

Rogen

Comments:  

Hi everyone! Finally I uploaded all results from Russian Minesweeper Championship 2008, you can find them following by the link below.


This time 24 players participated in the tournament. The results improved significantly - 7 players got sub60-s. The result of the second place in the previous tournament this time is enough only for 6th place.


P.S. In spite of finishing on the overal first place I was surpassed on expert by Stanislav Derechennik (best sweeper from Belarus)

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Nov 17th 2008 at 10:49:26 AM
Name:  

Der1k

Best expert:  

64

Best intermediate:  

15

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

why isn't there a record of RQP in the world records section? in my opinion RQP is the best way to show skill. it combines both time and 3bvs, it shouldn't be that hard to ask the few top players their best RQP scores to find out the WR

   
Nov 17th 2008 at 10:04:38 AM
Name:  

Tanel Sirp

Comments:  

@Damien: RE:You will join the World Ranking tonight (~22:00GMT)
you only added me to the score lists, but not the country or world rankings. im guessing i will have to wait until the next weekend =

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Nov 17th 2008 at 07:48:06 AM
Name:  

Luke

Best expert:  

NF IOE .923

Best beginner:  

3bv/s NF 3.8 -> 4.4

Comments:  

Good 3bv/s high score yesterday, also The good NF ioe score which is better than my FL ioe score....

   
Nov 17th 2008 at 04:09:28 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Damien: previous RQP record was 2,23 by me

   
Nov 17th 2008 at 02:46:50 AM
Name:  

manu

Comments:  

sorry damien, i was wrong, his rqp record is 2,341 , 11,96 on 56 3bv...
mfg

   
Nov 16th 2008 at 03:50:19 PM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

Just missed the update Ronny .. it was only a quick score update for most people, didn't have time to fix anything else. According to Manu the previous RQP record was 2.49 by Dion. Oh, and Manu got another 10, so he has 4 or 5 of them now. Tournament results are not on Rogen's site - yet. But it was even bigger than last year.

   
Nov 16th 2008 at 02:52:39 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Best intermediate:  

*16,656

Comments:  

corrected

   
Nov 16th 2008 at 02:42:16 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Best intermediate:  

Clone 17,217 (17x6) / Winmine 16 (16x1) -> 16,565 (3BV=40)

Comments:  

Finally got a 16 on Clone

Lol, 8 months ago it took me just 7 minutes of playing to get a 16s on winmine. After that it started bugging me more and more that even though I play on Clone about 99% of the time, my best time was a 16s on the winmine.

Therefor I'm very glad that, I finally got a 16 on Clone as well, that will also stand if winmine records are one day no longer allowed in the ranking.

@Damien: Can you please replace my 16 on winmine by this record in the world/country ranking (even though it is technically not faster)?

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Nov 16th 2008 at 02:33:14 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Ronny: if I used 2-3 flags I would 9 it and sub2 rqp

   
Nov 15th 2008 at 07:30:27 PM
Name:  

Luke

Best intermediate:  

3.4->3.5

Comments:  

Sorry for spamming
/me int game --> Time: 25,95 «» Est. Time: 25,95 «» 3BV: 88 (8 «» 3BV/s: 3,52 «» Ranks: 24 / 1 of 79 / 85,44% «» RQP: 7,36

   
Nov 15th 2008 at 06:53:33 PM
Name:  

Luke

Best expert:  

3bv/s 2.48 -> 2.54

Comments:  

/me exp game --> Time: 78,06 «» Est. Time: 78,06 «» 3BV: 196 (196) «» 3BV/s: 2,54 «» Ranks: 8 / 1 of 24 / 85,41% «» RQP: 30,69

@ kamil congrats on the RQP WR.

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Nov 15th 2008 at 03:03:37 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@KAmil: 10,2 on a 46?! Congrats...I think you can be sure that nobody will break that RQP record anytime soon.

   
Nov 15th 2008 at 01:35:14 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Best intermediate:  

NF RQP 2,2xx -> 2,07 (10x24)

Comments:  

MSX: 10,27 NF on 46 @ 4,96
linked
congrats to rogen

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Nov 15th 2008 at 01:20:57 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Best expert:  

FL 2,112 -> 2,201 (3BV=192)

Comments:  

This record sure was long overdue, but I'm very glad I finally got.

Still not a great score, because I know I can do much better since my old record of 2,112 was actually a 'blasted' 2,340 (204 of 205) + 10 seconds to find last square.

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Nov 15th 2008 at 09:10:27 AM
Name:  

fritz

Comments:  

as noone else seems to be writing this i'll do it:

result of the moscow tournament (only the part maxim bashov told in the irc channel):

the mode played was best 5int + best 5 exp games won in a single 3 h session

1st - roman gammel with 36x.xx
2nd - stanislav derechennik a few seconds behind romaN
3rd - arsen balishyan with 38x.xx
...
5th - maxim bashov with 411.xx

   
Nov 15th 2008 at 05:31:00 AM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

Uhm, what's my name again?

   
Nov 15th 2008 at 05:21:43 AM
Name:  

Elmarm

Comments:  

@Bertie: One step to further drill down from IOE are Throughput and Correctness (as implemented in Arbiter).

Correctness= Effective Clicks / Total Clicks
Throughput= 3bv/Effective Clicks
IOE= Correctness x Throughput

So throughput is a measure of how efficient your solve is theoreticall, i.e. if all your clicks hit their target. Correctness is a measure of execution, i.e. how clumsy are you and how many clicks you do for one that has an impact on the board.

The suggestions you make are probably a bit hard to code I would imagine. I had another suggestion besides throughput. One could split up path in a similar way. A macro path, i.e. how efficient is your global approach to a board, lots of going back and forth or not. And a micro path, i.e. how accurately do you manouver within the scope of a pattern.

   
Nov 15th 2008 at 02:41:31 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

Hey Kung

@Kamil: Nice try, but IOE is the result part of the equation. It's like asking "what influences how fast a runner runs?" and answering "how fast he runs. If IOE where something that identified a specific style, then me and you have the same style. Not even to begin on cl/s which gives you no info on how many effective clicks, how many left, right, dubbel etc. No, I'm talking about something like "The player always solves the geometrically nearest pattern" or "the player chooses the path that takes him furthest from the opening in the least clicks.", Those sort of thing.

BTW: My bad streak seems to be clearing up. Hope your back on top soon Ronny.

   
Nov 14th 2008 at 05:44:32 PM
Name:  

Kung

Best expert:  

96

Best intermediate:  

38

Best beginner:  

4

Comments:  

hi everyone

   
Nov 14th 2008 at 03:06:20 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Best intermediate:  

Clone NF 17,229 (3bv=40)(17x5) -> NF 17,217 (3bv=42)(17x6)

Comments:  

Still no 16 on Clone, but the record pop-up was nice, since I didn't even get a Top10 time on intermediate for like 10 days. I'm still slower than I was 2 weeks ago, but luckily on intermediate getting a nice board can compensate that.

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Nov 13th 2008 at 12:36:11 PM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

- The Russian Championship is in Moscow this Saturday. www.minesweeper.ru

- As Ronny suggested, I moved the 5 new RLogic articles into the Wiki and added one on Dynamine.

   
Nov 12th 2008 at 06:40:55 PM
Name:  

Excited

Best expert:  

76

Best intermediate:  

17

Best beginner:  

1 or 3

Comments:  

YEAHHH!! I just got all my times under 100 seconds. w00t! I had a 82 before today, then I got a 76! My best int. is on the regular minesweeper, and I also got a 1 on the regular beginner. BUT! I have a 18 int recorded on clone, my 76 is recorded, and I have like a 3.1 something recorded. The problem is that on my int and exp I didn't have my name on the bottom of the recording thing. Oh well. Wasn't planning on sending them in anyway. Just had to tell people. I'm excited.

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Nov 11th 2008 at 12:52:44 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Tanel: If you're new here, it's easiest send your record vids to 'damienalexmoore at yahoo.com' (and post them here on the guestbook to share your records with everyone).

If you're world ranked (= having a sum of less than 100s for the beginner+int+expert), then you can also request a player profile by asking Damien by email, so you can upload your vids on this website in your own folder.

When emailing your records don't forget to add:
-Name (first, last)
-Country (state or province)
-Scores
-Score dates
-Evidence (videos)

@Kamil: I agree that IOS isn't a good measure for your best game, because if you look at your history file and make a graph of 3BV versus IOS you will see that the average IOS increases on higher 3BV boards. For RQP, the average RQP versus 3BV is much more constant for all 3BV, so a better measure for improvement.

But to remove IOS from a future version seems pointless, because others do like it and personally I like getting records in general, so the more the merrier. If you don't value IOS records, just can always choose to ignore them.

   
Nov 11th 2008 at 08:09:17 AM
Name:  

Tanel

Comments:  

I was told that one could update their scores by posting on the guest book. How can i do this? I cant see any ways of uploading videos here.

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Nov 11th 2008 at 07:58:59 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Bertie: particular playing style = IOE + cl/s
@all what do u think about IOS? I dont really care about it and it should be removed from Clone in next version RQP is good and I think we dont need to have a strange IOS = [log 10 (3BV) / log 10 (time-1)] = [log time-1 (3BV)]

   
Nov 11th 2008 at 03:46:19 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

I have a question for all you ms theorists out there. What variables are needed to describe a particular style of play? What are the really basic ones? (Something like 3bv/s isn't basic, but built up; but clicks/s I think might be a bit more basic) Ah crap! I don't even know what to ask to get the answers I need!

Anyway, @Ronny: I've also experienced a bit of a dip. Not that I'm not completing games, I'm just not playing at all well, getting way too many sup70 times. Hope our fotune starts smiling soon.

Ok, bye.

   
Nov 10th 2008 at 04:59:02 PM
Name:  

Schu (Andrew McCauley)

Best expert:  

52

Best intermediate:  

14

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

Hey all! I like the changes to the guestbook, the "comments" thing should make things more concise especially, but for some reason I can't post in it with firefox, trying now with opera.

So for the first time in about 8 months I have my computer set up in a way that doesn't severely hamper accurate mouse movement, so I have gotten back to form (got a 58 recently).

How's the minesweeper world doing?

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Nov 10th 2008 at 01:34:58 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Best beginner:  

1x35 -> x36

Comments:  

@Damien: u forgot to fix Lukasz's profile and to update Rogen's 42 from budapest 3

   
Nov 10th 2008 at 10:34:26 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Damien: can u check somewhere if Im 1st to sup18 sum? 7,882+5,80+4,467 is sup18

   
Nov 9th 2008 at 01:47:21 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

@jsem, manu: try /server irc.eskimo.com

   
Nov 9th 2008 at 01:32:57 PM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

Website Updated.

Kamil, I only put your NF 38 blast in the news...your other blast would not be a WR.

Gergely, I fixed the tournament ranking, but not the results pages yet. I spent this week writing the RLogic / Landmine / Kabooom / XMines articles.

   
Nov 9th 2008 at 12:53:51 PM
Name:  

jsem

Comments:  

this sux... i havent been able to connect to the server that the minesweeper channel's on...

   
Nov 9th 2008 at 12:45:16 PM
Name:  

Luke

Best intermediate:  

NF 19.1-->18.98

Comments:  

/me int game --> Time: 18,98 «» Est. Time: 18,98 «» 3BV: 38 (38) «» 3BV/s: 2,11 «» Ranks: 1 / 3 of 13 / 92,30% «» RQP: 8,99
First high score I've done on arbiter....

   
Nov 9th 2008 at 12:40:03 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Best intermediate:  

10x21 -> x22 ->x23

Comments:  

10,387 on 36 and 10,738 on 42

   
Nov 9th 2008 at 12:30:04 AM
Name:  

Name field is required

Best expert:  

Serpenter_e

Comments:  

51 was before 54, fyi
Hi Luke, nice name, previous Luke was crazy

   
Nov 9th 2008 at 12:14:54 AM
Name:  

Name field is required

Best expert:  

Serpenter_e

Comments:  

Two games in a row:
exp - 54,436 - 3BV=192 - 3BVs=3,593 - 09.11.2008-1.mvf
exp - 51,683 - 3BV=157 - 3BVs=3,098 - 09.11.2008.mvf

brings this:
RQP: 17.841 -> 16.684 -> 15,150
3bvs: 3.372 -> 3,593

   
Nov 8th 2008 at 10:32:03 AM
Name:  

Luke

Best expert:  

65

Best intermediate:  

16

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

Hello, I'd like to introduce myself, my name is Luke Sullivan, and I've decided to make my first post here in the guestbook.
I'm 15 years old, and have been sweeping for about 10 months now.
I am also an admin of the minesweeper fan page on facebook.
Happy Sweeping to all.

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Nov 8th 2008 at 10:23:20 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Damien: Thanks didn't know that history....looks indeed a lot like minesweeper, but it seems a lot harder because you can only see the number of mines surrounding the square you are standing on. You should make a wiki page on wikipedia about it if there isn't already one.

   
Nov 8th 2008 at 10:12:23 AM
Name:  

Damien

Comments:  

www.minesweeper.info/history/RelentlessLogic.html

I hope you guys find this article (and the Landmine, Kaboooom and XMines articles) interesting, it's all I have been doing for the last 4 days (~18h)! I have been looking for a copy of RLogic ever since it was mentioned in Wikipedia, and I finally found one last week. I'm hoping to write more before Christmas.

   
Nov 7th 2008 at 03:02:43 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

I think I forgot how to play or minesweer this week or something.
I haven't solved a single:
- sub20 games in 7 day
- sup3 game in 9 solved
- expert game in 6 days

....and I played at least 2 hours a day.

TBH, I haven't got a clue why I can't solve any expert boards anymore nor why my speed and completion rate at intermediate are absolutely unbelievably terrible......anyone else had periods like this that your skills got worse instead of better even when you play every day? Cause currently it seems I'm playing 90% of the speed I had 1 week ago.

   
Nov 7th 2008 at 01:28:17 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

After reading IMC forum, I want to say some things. I will post it here because probably most of ppl (like me ) dont read the forum very often.
Ive linked as website Rubik's Cube world rankings. I believe that we can have as good rankings as they have. So:
1. I think that it would be good idea to create "average scores world ranking" - in fact speedcubers solve their cubes with quite similar times, and in speedsweeping we can get really different scores (because of the 3bv) - I think it would be good idea to create "Average of 3-5 best scores ranking". It would be impossible to do it for all the players, but maybe for top10 ot top20 I believe that Damien has emails to Oli and others to ask about they top 3-5 scores.
2. some people mentioned that ranking doesnt show who is currently the best on world - and its true. But it's my favourite thing in minesweeper ranking If u play chess, u cant compare who was better master - guy from year 1900 or from 2000. And in MS we can know who is/was the best in all the history of speedsweeping Notice, that active players read the guestbook regularry, so they know who is currently the best. So leave the ranking alone, its as good as possible
3. Decimal vs integer: Im not sure if using decimal scores instead of integer would be better. I think that I still would be more happy when made 40,000 -> 39,999 than 40,999 -> 40,000, but if we use decimal, the second option would be better. Notice, that in "Score Lists" we use decimal ranking, so my vote is to dont integer ranking to decimal.
btw, no records for 2 days

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Nov 7th 2008 at 10:32:30 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Kamil & Joni: Indeed broke again. No weird characters in the file name of that file though, although it isn't the first time that it broke down on a file of Zang? Maybe we should ask Zang if he tried to download that file and what his exact actions were, so we can replicate the bug.

   
Nov 7th 2008 at 09:34:36 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@joni: vids broke down

   
Nov 7th 2008 at 08:03:20 AM
Name:  

Boris Tang

Comments:  

I would definitely like a UK tournament! I am not bothered flying to budapest, but getting together must be fun! hope there will be one very soon

   
Nov 6th 2008 at 05:12:24 AM
Name:  

tK

Comments:  

@Tournaments much further away from vienna than budapest, I have a girlfriend in zürich, so I need lots of my money for travelling there and I'll usually be there if I have significantly more than a weekend free. So, if I'd take part in an international tournament, I'd need full or at least almost full sponsorship, I can't afford to spend more than 100€ on sth like that, and that is stretching my limits and including expenses for food etc.

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Nov 5th 2008 at 05:11:22 PM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

@Damien: I've been thinking for a few weeks about raising the issue of a UK tourny. I'd definitely show up if possible. The issue would be getting players who aren't based in the UK. How many players are prepared to take flights to these things? I dunno. Definitely a good idea though. Anyone heard from Ian recently?

   
Nov 5th 2008 at 03:45:29 PM
Name:  

jonathon

Comments:  

What does it mean that you have to provide a model of the mouse you used to qualify for the world rankings? Like, just a picture or what?

   
Nov 5th 2008 at 01:08:41 PM
Name:  

tK

Comments:  

@decimal vs integer scores, I started a topic in my forum, linked as website

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Nov 5th 2008 at 12:37:09 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

@Damien: let's hope those low-cost companies don't go bankrupt in the next 18 months :D

   
Nov 5th 2008 at 11:36:57 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

39,849 142/144
f.uck
be patient, give me 1-2 more weeks

   
Nov 5th 2008 at 10:16:10 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

vid with pop-up window utubed and linked
Music - the best brutal death metal song ever m/
7,882 + 5,80 + 4,467 = 18,149
I guess that Dion doesnt have 7,575 on Beg, so it seems that im probably 1st to sup18 sum.
Write in News

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Nov 5th 2008 at 10:08:42 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Kamil: WTF that's twice my record

   
Nov 5th 2008 at 09:22:24 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Best expert:  

4,02 ->>>>>> 4,467 !!!!

Comments:  

Poland record (Lukasz has 4,42) 226 3bv in 51,589 Now I have 10/10 Poland records !
Its funny, I have only 3 sup4
linked

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Nov 5th 2008 at 09:05:04 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

kamil!!!! nice game. i have been scared to visit the guestbook lately I was hoping to stay in the top 10 by 2010....

bertie, that'd would be yes for me, even part sponsorship would be cool.

btw...i have been thinking about a ms tournament in the uk, probably scotland and probably the computer labs at stirling university. just testing the water as well there are now at least 4 good players in the uk, and you can fly to glasgow from most major cities now. definitely not in the next 6 months, but in the next 18 if possible.

   
Nov 4th 2008 at 05:49:49 PM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

I think I predicted long ago that Kamil would be the next WR holder. Hate to say I told you so...

@joni: I don't get that argument against decimal scores. If the world ranking list isn't an exact representation of a player's skill, that means the list itself is unrepresentative, NOT that a list of more vague scores would be more accurate. We could also decide to divide people into 5 or 10 second groups; less accuracy but we gain nothing.

I think the point is that the world ranking list is a list of personal bests. Unless I've missed it, it doesn't say anywhere on this site "this list is a definite list of the best players in the world, accurately representing their skill levels objectively." We all know that the world record isn't everything, because we all play the game, and we all know that a record can be blasted on the last click because of a forced guess. But that doesn't mean that inaccuracy gives us a better list. The best you could say is that it doesn't hinder us a lot. The fact is, the rankings are based on one thing only: personal best times. That "things could easily have been different" is no argument in favour of deliberate inaccuracy. A better time deserves a better place in the ranking.

   
Nov 4th 2008 at 03:01:10 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

simply insane... KAmil, watching your exploits would have made me hang up my mouse diretly, if I hadn't already retired looooong ago... You are hands down one of the most outstanding sweepers ever
That said, I hope that 39 blast did teach you something, that friends are actually worth much more than a world record...

@fritz on the decimal talk you are throwing in i would counter with the same old arguments: the decimals lose most of their significance when you think that manu could as well have a 36/37 in that list... the same with kamil, he had a 42 only a few days ago, then improved to 41 then 40... did his sweeping skills improve by much in a couple of days? i doubt it. As a matter of fact he could have as well jumped directly to 39. I would say KAmil is the world nr.1 or 2 sweeper at the moment (no matter what that list shows) the same as manu was the world's nr.1 or 2 in spring (when he last played for real) the same way Oli and Damien were the world's nr 1 or 2 at their peaks... I will reqoute that wise man once again "there is only one thing that is absolute: that everything is relative"
night all

   
Nov 4th 2008 at 12:34:48 PM
Name:  

fritz

Comments:  

/me int game --> Time: 15,60 «» Est. Time: 15,60 «» 3BV: 36 (36) «» 3BV/s: 2,46 «» Ranks: 14 / 3344 of 4510 / 62,79% «» RQP: 6,32

my 23rd arbiter 15s, i have 2 more 15s on vsweeper

@bertie only top10? sounds awesome

   
Nov 4th 2008 at 11:47:04 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

The soccer I was talking about is the 2010 world cup of course.

*Sorry for spamming, I'll stop not *

   
Nov 4th 2008 at 11:43:35 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Best expert:  

46

Best intermediate:  

13

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

Big grats to Kamil, but not that big. I'm holding the really big grats for that inevitable sub40

I just also want to inject here, with all this talk of rankings, the fact that I'm number 1 on the AR, so there

More seriously now. I've found out that there actually exists a pseudo governing body over all things "computer game" in South Africa called Mind Sports SA (MSSA)(I think). The play the role of parent to all types of computer and board game (the chess, battle sim kind) legues and orginizations in the country. I think it might be a good idea to approach them, or more emmediately their computer game children to scout for minesweeper talent. And then, after getting some people involved to become a separate entity who could affiliate under them. This would help alot if I ever want to organize a world champs in SA with sponsors etc.

On the subject, how would you guys feel about the world champs in SA if I could say get the top ten entries sponsored travel and allround cheap/likely free hostel lodging? (These aren't promises, just testing the water.) Maybe organize it in such a way that the participants could get to watch some soccer, perhaps even the final (probly not sponsored of course)?

ok, bye.

   
Nov 4th 2008 at 10:20:15 AM
Name:  

manu

Comments:  

grats kamil !
i still wonder how u can play that much every day ;/
@ fritz ur 2nd ranking is wrong, kamil has 52,33 not 53 ...
mfg
manu

   
Nov 4th 2008 at 10:16:45 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Kamil: 3 expert records in 4 days?

I remember that when you started you quickly beat my 81s, since that day you've improved from 80 to 40, so you become twice as fast in that time. If you compare that with my progress (see below), it's really amazing how fast you've progressed:

My progress:
81: 2003-10
80: 2008-02-21 (4,5 year)
79: 2008-03-16 (1 month)
74: 2008-04-22 (1 month)
70,8: 2008-06-22 (2 months)
70,4: 2008-10-16 (4 months)

   
Nov 4th 2008 at 08:51:59 AM
Name:  

fritz

Best expert:  

62,297

Best intermediate:  

18,001====>16,942

Best beginner:  

1,64

Comments:  

new NF highscore for me: 16.942s on 36 3BV @ 2.258 3BV/s (clone)

i knew why i kept telling me that i have to stick to NF and wait for a low 3BV board

FL vs. NF
60 - 79
#21 - #234

   
Nov 4th 2008 at 07:32:09 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

video with pop-up window:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OFPH3dtwo4
also utubed

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Nov 4th 2008 at 07:17:22 AM
Name:  

fritz

Comments:  

@kamil: grats:

wow! now decimal and integer ranking really would make an important difference:

integer:

3.oli 1-11-39
4.kamil 1-10-40
5.manu 1-10-40
6.damien 1-11-40

manu has better 40s but kamil has better decimal sum so he'll be 4th here

decimal:

2.zhang 1,98+11,34+38,83=52,15
3.damien 1,67+11,11+40,34=53,12
4.kamil 1,49+10,01+40,83=53,33
5.manu 1,99+10,74+40,68=53,41
6.oli 1,93+11,99+39,84=53,76

   
Nov 4th 2008 at 06:06:03 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Damien: of course I was joking when told to remove me from the ranking

   
Nov 4th 2008 at 05:56:18 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Best expert:  

41 ->>>> 40,834

Comments:  

Clone: 40,834 FL on 150 @ 3,766 3bv/s and 10,844 RQP linked
in last 5 days:
31 Oct: 126/128 est 38NF
01 Nov: 42
02 Nov: 41
03 Nov: 39 lost on a 50-50
04 Nov: 40
@Dion: give me 1 more month

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Nov 3rd 2008 at 10:45:41 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Ronny: I meant that ff I solve exp board in 39 its not fair that my record is still 41 because of fcking 50-50

   
Nov 3rd 2008 at 03:24:54 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Fritz: Lol nice. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9......beaten by a K.O. You win.

@KAmil: He already said he was busy, so please relax. When he's less busy, Im sure Damien will add Rogens 42 when he has the time.

   
Nov 3rd 2008 at 01:01:29 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

39,135 139/141 50-50
linked
@Damien: remove me from the ranking Im not going to be in unfair game ranking

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Nov 3rd 2008 at 12:36:47 PM
Name:  

fritz

Comments:  

@ ronny: 77,034s on 183 3BV @ 2,407 3BV/s

now i have 4,688+3,186+2,407=10,281

it's your turn now....

   
Nov 3rd 2008 at 09:35:24 AM
Name:  

Jon S

Comments:  

@Kamil: Congrats

@Ronny:

That's a nice game indeed. It would probably have been sup-5 if you had gotten a perfect start

I like the mouse path there

   
Nov 3rd 2008 at 08:48:35 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

Just something I think the programming buffs among us will find interresting (linked).

Oh, and grats to Ronny and Kamil.

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Nov 3rd 2008 at 07:14:37 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Damien: remember to write in Blasted Records about my 126/128 est 38NF
@Ronny: nice my biggest NF 3BV/s jump was 5,3xx -> 6,135 (my 1st WR)
btw, if I didnt blasted my biggest blasts ever, now I would have 1-8-38 NF and would be #2 in ranking

   


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