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Aug 14th 2008 at 10:23:51 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Damien: there is a mistake when I ty to download Lukasz's 44 form the world ranking, and Gregoire Duffez has linked not his 11 int, but 12

   
Aug 14th 2008 at 10:09:15 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Best expert:  

3,727 NF -> 3,797 FL

Comments:  

199 in 53,405 total suckage, but I wont beat Dion playing NF , linked
@tK: I blast about 90% games because of unforced guessings, not because of mistakes ( I dont do mistakes). 10% are 50-50

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Aug 14th 2008 at 06:50:17 AM
Name:  

Christoph

Comments:  

Experience with past turnies already showed that there's not a lot of luck in the time trials. Playing consistent is a skill as playing fast is. Both are taken into account in that tournament system. And you can do training for both.
The last austrian championship was played with this system, it was not won by consistence allone. Indeed it went to the speed player (in person of Tommy) and I (as a consistence player) ended up second.
The championship will not be decided by luck. But neither speed nor consistence allone will be enough to lift the title - but for sure speed will be the more important skill.

And yes, Tommy is absolutely right: if you can't imagine the system to work, then come to vienna to win the side event.
But the system was ready played and it worked fine - so it will at the world championship. Give it a try, it makes the turny really interesting and way more interactive.

   
Aug 14th 2008 at 05:44:58 AM
Name:  

tK

Comments:  

Having played that tournament format, I feel the need to defend it.
You play many of these sessions, and there isn't a lot that depends on every single one of it.
Also, I have managed to consistently finish time trials at home. My times sucked - sup70 was normal - but bear in mind that there ARE players that solve a board every five minutes on average while playing normally. 5 minutes are 300 seconds, and I am willing to bet that these players can get down to 200-250 or so if they play carefully. Now I know that that is an average, but I would say that luck is not the primary deciding factor, consistency is.
@NF, I sometimes play NF when I make too many mistakes flagging, even during tournaments, because I have the feeling that it slows me down and makes me more consistent. I think that I can NF at pretty much the same speed and consistency as with flags.
And we all know that the only reason NFers blast more are human errors, not board difficulty. The reason NFers finish less games is not that you get less information when you NF, it is because you make mistakes more easily.
Whether or not the tournament values consistency that high is good or not can be debated, but it is not pure luck, and, as a matter of fact, not a lot of luck at all - just a matter of the right skills.
I don't think that the system is perfect, I think it could use one or two extra expert games and a little more time, (maybe 1500-2000 seconds), but I think you are wrong in saying that it is based on luck (or, at least, based on luck much more than minesweeper itself ).

And anyway, if you really don't like it, you can **** that and try to be good in the side event

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Aug 14th 2008 at 12:01:15 AM
Name:  

Gergő

Comments:  

I think, that 600 s is very-very little time. With NF it is even much less... If I try to play considering only the safety, I would hardly do a sub 100... Yesterday I finished 17 exp games in three hours, which is an extremely high number. I will be happy if I solve five expert boards in Vienna in three hours.
Kamil is right. In ten minutes the boards' sequence and their 3BV values can not be considered equal for all players. And this little time has a great discriminating effect on NF-ers. I vote on the conventional, usual three hours and top 5 sum exp and int.
After two weeks pause in playing I returned quite well. On Tuesday I made a 19 (7. best), a 2,97x 3BV/s (2. best), and yesterday a 77 (5.best), a 80 and a 81, together with a 2,265 3BV/s (2. best) and two other sup 2... I must prove that I deserve that 67...

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Aug 13th 2008 at 06:40:11 PM
Name:  

Rodrigo

Comments:  

@KAmil: believe me, your question is not so strange!

I have received tons of e-mails of people telling they think the boards generated by the Clone are harder than Winmine's. The interesting part is that the opposite also exists, i.e., some people also reported that the boards generated by the Clone are easier.

I can only conclude this is just a feeling, not true. Maybe something psychological?!?! Strictly speaking, I don't know how EXACTLY how winmine distributes mines on the board, but I'm more than 99% sure that it's.... ehm... random! With equal chances on each square. This is what Clone does (and all other clones too, I suppose).

Cheers!

   
Aug 13th 2008 at 12:51:39 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Ive just played "time trial" ( 15 beg, 6 int, 2 exp)
I solved 15 beg and 6 int ( 8 in fact, 2 games lost on a 50-50 on the last click) in about 400s. Then I blasted x-3 / x 3bv on a 50-50 @ 600s and I turned it off.
Im sure that this stupid game type won't appear on Vienna tournament its only based on on luck and it sucks

   
Aug 13th 2008 at 05:35:18 AM
Name:  

tK

Comments:  

Of course, I forgot the most important thing, the URL is http://imc.martinpre.net .
I would appreciate it if it were linked to - I hadn't considered that no minesweeper website links there.
However, I am not in charge of any other minesweeper website, so I can't put it online - I can only ask people to link to it.
I'd appreciate if it were linked to.

I unfortunately will not have time to write in the IMC forum daily in the next couple of weeks, the combo of having a summer job and my girlfriend in vienna (I don't see her often, and she will study in zurich) takes up all my free time (and too much of my sleeping time already :P), I am limited to posting here in my work breaks (and I might find time sometime, but that is improbable).
However, after my girlfriend leaves to zurich to study, I should have time every day. That is pretty much starting with vienna 2008.
Also, Vienna 2008 should be an excellent opportunity to discuss IMC topics.
I am not sure about exact dates, but I'll figure that out soon.

And on a last note @ manu, thanks for the feedback. I'll try to write shorter posts in the future.
In general, if there is something else to complain about, by all means do so.
Insult me if you wish, if what you are doing is constructive. I'm serious - I need criticism, positive and negative.

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Aug 13th 2008 at 02:16:02 AM
Name:  

manuel h

Comments:  

u can not expect ppl to go there by only posting 2 times the link of it in the gb -.-
i didnt find it on minesweeper.cc and it is not on damiens site... and im not going to search the gb !! (btw I have the link, i just wanted to know if u can find it somewhere)


another thing that might scare ppl away is the huge amount of text some people write
;-)
i bet that less than 50 % of the ones who have seen tks post have read it completely...



mfg
manu

   
Aug 12th 2008 at 07:45:00 PM
Name:  

WP

Comments:  

Cheers Thomas! I must say I agree.

Yep, the forum inactivity pretty much sucks. But I think it's inevitable...we're an inofficial community, and that's what happens in inofficial communities. We're not exactly working together as a team, and the more we try to do, the more frustrated we'll feel because we just can't do that much and we'll be stuck "doing nothing". But if we don't try to do as much, and just concentrate on doing whatever we can, we might just be able to finish doing whatever we started.

What I shall suggest is this. I have a month's holiday left, and I'm pretty much willing to put in a little time for the statutes. I think Thomas did a good job with the starting draft, and from there, and from what responses we have in the forum, we can make a final draft. What we need are people who want to participate in the drafting of the statutes (IMC member or otherwise) But what we really need to know is whether you will have time for that every day (as I probably will have this month) or whether you can only be there once a week (which means that you wouldn't be actively writing the statutes but you'd probably be looking at what we've done and pointing out problems), or maybe every few days, etc. It doesn't matter which, we just need to know so that we don't wait a week for your reply, while all the time thinking that you'll reply "tomorrow".

Another thing I think is that we should probably write the statutes to keep IMC involvement to a minimum, only to what really needs the IMC and cannot be done by anyone in the community. That would be best to ensure that the community can still keep moving forward even at times when the IMC members aren't available. (which can certainly happen, seeing as we're all human)

I'm sorry if any of this sounds dictatorial, but sometimes that's the only way I know to get things done. So now I'm waiting for willing voices to sound out that they'd like to help with the statute drafting...

   
Aug 12th 2008 at 12:50:41 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Best intermediate:  

10x10 -> x11

Comments:  

10,98 on 42, MSX
@Rodrigo: I have a stragne question:
Why clone generates less very easy boards than MSX on winmine?
I couldnt get a 10 for all holiday, and when decided to play on MSX got it in 8 minutes playing.
Look on my stats:
Clone: 10x3, 11x16
winmine xp: 10x6, 11x3
MSX: 10x2, 11x3
I play mostly on clone ( most sub12) but very easy boards happen only on winmine and MSX

   
Aug 12th 2008 at 05:24:53 AM
Name:  

tK (Thomas Kolar)

Comments:  

Hello everyone, I am back from my vacation.
And there is something that I would like to note here. Please read it, it is important to me.
In all the time when I was gone, there wasn't a single post on the IMC forum. Now I know that it was down and I do not know exactly when it was online again, but it is up now, and (correct me if I'm wrong), it has probably been up for a while, as it only was down because it was moved to a different server, and martin (Martin Prebio, a friend of mine who hosts the IMC forum) told me that he would fix it soon. I also told you that it should be online soon when I went (I know that that was suboptimal, but I went to canada and did not have internet access, I was on an island in lake huron, so going to an internet cafe was not an option except for once, when I did not have a lot of time and had a chat conversation with my girlfriend, I think it is quite understandable that that had priority, seing as we communicated precious little in that time with phone calls being both the only option and expensive, and her not being at home most of the time, I also thought I could count on people to realize when it was up by themselves.)
The IMC forum exists - at the moment - to draft statutes for the IMC. These statutes will define how the IMC will be run, they are a critical prerequisite if the IMC is to do its job well. Everyone can post in the IMC forum, and everyone can read everything that is posted there at the moment (a locked members area exists, but it is empty and meant for later, when we might use it for some few (!) decisions like discussing controversial scores.)
The community largely complained that transparency was a problem of the IMC.
Well, the IMC statutes draft is at the moment absolutely transparent, and anyone can contribute to it.
The IMC used to use IRC, with the consequence that old discussions are not logged and not documented. That works as long as enough participants that remember the discussions remain in the IMC. As soon as too many new people are there, however, there is a problem.
Even if discussions are logged, the data is far from organized if all you do is save chat logs. The nature of IRC implies that chat logs are not structured documents but conversations that may deviate from the topic discussed.
Finding relevant passages concerning a certain topic is possible, but takes a certain amount of time. With a ****load of logs it takes a ****load of time to find what you need.
In a forum, you have a certain structure, and you can group stuff relevant for one topic in one topic. If I want to read what someone wrote about 3bv limits sometime a couple of years ago, I can simply look in the corresponding topic.
Now I know that forums have the disadvantage that conversations aren't live. Using a forum to structure stuff doesn't mean that we have to give up the numerous benefits of IRC though. IRC logs can be posted in a forum as well, and then it is possible to post only the parts that are relevant.
I think that that system is great and would work extremely well once implemented.
Problem is, with an internet forum, you don't get structure by default. I have been in too many forums not to know the chaos that ensues when there isn't enough forum structure.
We need to define how the IMC uses the forum, or it serves not as an information archive, but as an information graveyard.

Also, as I have written, people have requested transparency. That means that we have to find a system that is transparent, but also works, and serves the community.
Drafting such a system is complicated but possible. However, if the system is supposed to represent the community, we need input from people.
If you build a house for someone you are likely to ask that person what it is supposed to be like. The same, to some extent, goes for a good IMC system.
We need your input. There have been complaints that the IMC is impersonal, if that is not supposed to stay that way, we will need to know how to overcome that from the people it concerns.
On a personal note, I don't invest a lot of time in the IMC, I can't, I go to school, have a girlfriend, many other hobbies. I still find the time to post there every now and then. I am not asking you to invest all your free time, just as much time as it takes you to write down your opinion.
And I am not going to draft statutes alone. I want to actively participate, but if the interest is as low as it appears to be at the moment, I don't know what sense it makes to invest time there.
We can always go back to the old system, but in that case, don't be astounded when the next christoph-damien dispute arrives, and don't complain that nobody knows what is going on. I am not saying that neither of christoph and damien were at fault for what happened, I am saying that the system permitted it.

/rant
Thank you for reading.

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Aug 12th 2008 at 03:27:42 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

NF tournament is your the best idea ever
btw, are there any prizes for winners on vienna?

   
Aug 11th 2008 at 01:09:05 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

hehe, Jon you're way too nice . I thought you'd have been one of the first not to like Christophs formats that tend to be more and more penalizing to NFers... Maybe as a counterbalance one could decide to make the next tournament to be NF-only for the main event, with people being allowed to flag if they want to, but that only count as a "side-event". I expect especially Christoph to be thrilled to play in such a format...

   
Aug 11th 2008 at 12:58:23 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Best intermediate:  

10x10

Comments:  

Just blasted on a start-clicking 1/40 3BV -> UPK = 9s NF 1st try
fvck it
@Jon S: nice board, got 44NF 1st try

   
Aug 11th 2008 at 08:28:57 AM
Name:  

Jon S

Comments:  

@Michael, fritz, KAmil, joni and Damien:

Thanks a lot

@Christoph:

I'm sure that the new system works well. With the addition of the side event everyone should be content, I hope

   
Aug 10th 2008 at 03:29:16 PM
Name:  

Parucka

Comments:  

Bertie, that was the worst case of alcoholic tremble I have ever seen.
Drink some soda instad and the vidz will be ok .

   
Aug 10th 2008 at 01:57:39 PM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

website updated. best is li chong (#33 in the world).

congrats jon! it's great seeing one of the 'oldies' still playing well. i haven't played this month, except for some custom at work. and manu - i put your 500 sub50 in the news, where it deserves.

sorry the new profiles/members area is taking so long - really busy this week.

   
Aug 10th 2008 at 09:42:46 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@damien: Jon S is probably to shy to tell u, but u didnt write a news about his sup4 NF on Int from 07 April i think

   
Aug 10th 2008 at 09:35:12 AM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

Bertie - I think Jesus is pretty famous already to be honest.

   
Aug 10th 2008 at 06:23:46 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

Sorry for spamming, but I forgot to ask. Could someone tell me what's wrong with my Arbiter? The vidz come out all yerky! I attached a link to one of those vidz.

tx

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Aug 10th 2008 at 05:35:30 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Best expert:  

50.67

Comments:  

Hey all! I just got back from the Passion conference in Johannesburg where 6000+ 18-25 year olds got fired up to make the name of Jesus famous. Check out the website to learn more (NOT passion.com )

On the minesweeper side though, I finally got my first real shot at a sub50 on thursday! I lost on a 50/50 at 116/128 est 45,90. Then later on I got a est 49,XX on a 140something board at about 120/140, also lost on a geuss. I'm not worried though.

Ok, bye!

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Aug 10th 2008 at 02:20:09 AM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

big big grats Jon!!
Another NFer to sub-50 that's really really cool!! I can't help but to be amazed every time i watch a vid of yours at how efortlessly you manage to keep that mouse pressed most of the time and release it only when you need to

Very refreshing to see some old-style NF-solving too ... why take unneccessary guesses when you can solve?

KAmil... that's the fun with playing bowling (or pool or table-tennis for that matter ...) after the tourney. No-one expects you to be a pro at it, and you can actually enjoy it without the need of taking it too seriously

   
Aug 10th 2008 at 12:46:32 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Jon: big congrats, i will try that board tomorrow before I watch it My father left a cable from my laptop @ work 4 days ago and it will be back tomorrow - for last 4 days I play old, good game - Warcraft 2
@Christoph - I bowled 1 time in my life, I suck @ it and dont really like it

   
Aug 9th 2008 at 08:00:49 PM
Name:  

fritz

Comments:  

big grats Jon !

   
Aug 9th 2008 at 01:52:27 PM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

@Jon - that's a new record for you, right? Well done on that one.

@Christoph - I've heard about the bowling before, but isn't it a bit strenuous on the wrist for the minesweepers?

   
Aug 9th 2008 at 01:26:57 PM
Name:  

Christoph

Comments:  

Great to hear some of you are coming. We're yet at 11 players so that's already a nice tourney and hopefully motivation for some more players to show up.

However, I got a lot of input on the system. Some did heavily disagree with the system from the austiran championships (but only players who never tried it) and some told me, they really want me to keep up and improve that system. As it's impossible to make everybody happy with the type of the tournament, we'll go for having two discipines:
- the mainevent with the point-dropout-system and
- the sideevent with a 5+5 sum
the point system is pretty easy, but pretty difficoult to explain in detail, so just the basic idea: there will be a series of 999sec sessions, after each the players get points for 4 different skills, when the leader reaches a certain amount of points the bottom some players drop out - that goes on until only one player is left.
for the 5+5 all the games from the 999sec sessions count (the droped out players can stil play in that sessions for the 5+5, but no longer for the points - if they prefer they can watch some games of the top players stil in the compatition live).

@KAmil: I would recommand to stay in vienna for the saturday evening - we'll go out (most probably for bowling) and it would be a pitty if you miss that. There are enough hostels which are surely not to expensive to stay for one night. It's way more comfortable to drive back on sunday and enjoy vienna a little longer.

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Aug 9th 2008 at 01:24:17 PM
Name:  

Jon S

Comments:  

Congrats to recent record breakers

I think I'll come to Vienna, but I'm not 100 % certain yet.

I've been feeling a little tired and not totally motivated for minesweeper the last couple of weeks, but I decided to try to play a little today. I made a 54 after about half an hour on a decent board, and thought that this was better than I expected. About an hour later, I finished a very nice 139 3BV board in 49,795 seconds. I was very surprised when I saw the pop-up window. To be honest, I think the board is one of the easiest I've finished this year (nine openings and generally nice and easy patterns).

After that sub-50, I've reached one of my biggest goals for this year. Maybe I'll spend a little less time on Minesweeper the next couple of months

   
Aug 9th 2008 at 11:23:13 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

i have g00d news:
if Lukasz doesnt find a sponsor for us for vienna, my father agreed to drive me there its 4 hours travell, so I can go there and come back in the same day

   
Aug 9th 2008 at 10:13:59 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Elmar: Zhang Sheng or another one?
@Damien: y country ranking doesnt work?

   
Aug 9th 2008 at 04:32:13 AM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

Zhang just won a 400m race in swimming.

   
Aug 9th 2008 at 12:05:58 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

I will play worse on Exp - I have to slow down if I want to win 1 exp board/20 minutes anyway i hope to get the 1st tournament sub50 NF and sub13
btw, 5 sub15 wont be a problem

   
Aug 8th 2008 at 08:23:01 PM
Name:  

WP

Comments:  

I'm definitely going, I've already got my tickets and all. I'll be arriving on Wednesday (my first time to Vienna, I might as well spend some time visiting) and I'll be staying at Wombat's City Hostel.

I think I'll be playing worse than I did last year, so...not to worry, people

   
Aug 8th 2008 at 06:37:43 AM
Name:  

Gergõ

Comments:  

I will go, as well. I already have the money. I must practice a lot. I don't want to be the last . When dou you plan to arrive in Vienna? I think I can get there on thrusday afternoon, and can stay until sunday noon. Where will we sleep? Shall I carry a tent ?

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Aug 8th 2008 at 05:55:22 AM
Name:  

Nikolaj

Best expert:  

55

Best intermediate:  

12

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

Farniks + Klara will come, this time it will be more social than minesweepeer trip, I am really rusty, didn't play minesweeper for a loooong time Nonosweeper is a different issue though

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Aug 7th 2008 at 02:33:30 PM
Name:  

kyle

Best expert:  

getting slower

Best intermediate:  

slow

Best beginner:  

fast

Comments:  

NObama

   
Aug 7th 2008 at 11:59:55 AM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

A documentary actually sounds like a great idea to me. Although I probably won't be going. How on earth are people getting sponsorship? I find it hard to imagine.

   
Aug 7th 2008 at 01:17:18 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

I just discovered the funniest thing! The minesweeper.org website has been temporarily shut down. It now redirects to presidential candidate Obama's website!

Just thought I'd share that

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Aug 6th 2008 at 10:48:39 PM
Name:  

reid sinclair

Comments:  

@ anyone going to vienna. my sister and i are going again this year. can't wait. and, assuming that it's okay with everyone, a freind of hers wants to chronicle the event in a very, very low-key documentary. he just started making films and this would mostly just be for his own experience and for fun, too. and everyone will get a copy, of course. just wanted to let everyone know - and if you happen to have any ideas that might make it better, you can email me and i will pass it on to him.
also, i just started playing again, so i hope to put on a better showing than last time. i'm not sure i'll be able to compete with guys like manu or kamil, but i hope to finish fairly high.

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Aug 6th 2008 at 02:13:47 PM
Name:  

Rodrigo

Comments:  

@Kamil: I have just found an apartament to live here in Rio de Janeiro. I already started studying a lot here but I see the amount of things to study is getting smaller with time. Maybe it means I'm learning something!!!

For now I'm "preparing the terrain" to work on the Clone. I'm "collecting" my ideas, currently only in my mind and in some annotations. But hey, don't commit suicide!

Greetings and luck to everyone!

   
Aug 6th 2008 at 12:00:39 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

new Exp NF RQP record: 13,081
167 3bv in 47,242 @ 3,611 in my folder

   
Aug 6th 2008 at 11:59:21 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

Okay, here's a stupid question: It is on 20 Sep right?

If I am to attend I'll need to get sponsored again, so hold thumbs!

Ok, bye.

   
Aug 6th 2008 at 02:05:47 AM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

I'm afraid the chances of me making it are minimal. Have fun there! and try not to sweep too much :P

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Aug 6th 2008 at 01:24:10 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Im 90% sure that Ill come Lukasz probably also will be

   
Aug 6th 2008 at 12:32:09 AM
Name:  

Arsen

Comments:  

Hi friends! Can anyone tell me how many people and who are going to visit Vienna? I think the list at minesweeper.cc is not really full )

   
Aug 3rd 2008 at 02:49:10 PM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

Hi guys, just got back from a Stag party weekend...sorry no update. It will probably be on Tuesday when my hangover disappears!

Some brilliant games from Manu lately. Kamil, average 14 is amazing - you must win very few games, because the only way to do this is by taking risks to help speed. I haven't played for a few weeks now - need to install clone on my new computer.

   
Aug 3rd 2008 at 12:41:28 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

today I won 16 Int games (NF) with average time 14,140, av 3BV 53 => av 3bv/s = 3,905 11x2 and 3 sup 4,8 3BV/s
also made 49NF on 158

   
Aug 3rd 2008 at 06:57:39 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@manu: nice I play mostly Int now, I made 11x4 in last 4 days

   
Aug 3rd 2008 at 04:14:01 AM
Name:  

manuel h

Comments:  

i proudly present my (propably) 500th sub 50 exp game ;-)

Last game: 45.607sec - 3BV=159 - 3BV/s=3.564 - level=exp *flagging* - Ranks: 49/492 - IOE=0.754 - RQP=12.797

btw, did 3 times a rqp highscore this week, now it is 10.431 , 43.105 on 174 @ 4,133

mfg

   
Aug 2nd 2008 at 04:23:05 PM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

Hm, looks like I coudl join via the java chat, but there was nobody in #minesweeper, not even explosion.
At first I got the same error message, but eventually I got connected. May have been after I changed the nick...

   
Aug 2nd 2008 at 04:09:44 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

ok ... i had a prolonged chat with the guys at #services

one says it's always good to install mIRC :P. the other agreed, while he also pointed out http://www.newnet.net/ has a java applet (CHAT NOW link on the right)

Make a try using that... If you manage to get in (!) you type "/join #minesweeper" in the main prompt to switch channels. You can be only in one channel at a time so you don't have to worry much about anything else.

use "/nick everythingbutelmar" if you can't stand being called javauser.

it helps to be in contact with the guys (possibly via myself) when trying to connect so that they can lift eventual network bans on you .

OFF TO SLEEP!!!
joni

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Aug 2nd 2008 at 12:31:55 PM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

Well, no... nobody has told me what I'm doing wrong....

   
Aug 2nd 2008 at 10:25:19 AM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

any luck logging in elmar?

   
Aug 2nd 2008 at 07:05:57 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Best beginner:  

NF 6,711 -> 6,900

Comments:  

After 3 hours playing on Clone (11NF on 43) I thought: "I dont have any 1s on MSX". 15 secs later I solved 12 3BV in 2,74 NF linked

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Aug 2nd 2008 at 06:05:46 AM
Name:  

Parucka

Best expert:  

57

Best intermediate:  

14

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

Whether half-empty or half-full, it´s twice the size it needs to be.

   
Aug 2nd 2008 at 12:18:02 AM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

easy there mate... what's with all the negativity? has it ever occurred to you that a "half-empty" glass might as well be "half-full"?

btw anyone else has the impression this smiley " " is cursing "puta madre"
(i think the correct version would be "de **** madre" but he's just a Yank smiley after all ).

   
Aug 1st 2008 at 01:44:43 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Rodrigo: when will new clone be? I need 30 3bv board for a 9.
btw, if I dont get 9 to the end of holiday, I will commit suicide

   
Aug 1st 2008 at 02:12:45 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Elmar:
=== *** You are banned from NewNet (AGLINE ID = u got banned probably for spamming or bad language

   
Jul 31st 2008 at 03:23:17 PM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

Can somebody pls let me know how to connect to the chan? This is what I get:

[ERROR] Connection to irc://irc.eskimo.com/ (irc://irc.eskimo.com/) closed. Reconnecting in 2 minutes. [Cancel]
Connecting to irc://irc.eskimo.com/ (irc://irc.eskimo.com/)… [Cancel]
=== *** Looking up your hostname...
=== *** Found your hostname (cached)
=== *** Checking ident...
You are already connected to “irc.eskimo.com”.
=== *** No ident response; username prefixed with ~
[ERROR] Not connected.
=== *** You are banned from NewNet (AGLINE ID 8ac12dcc5ade645f6f681bebb3f1d1b8 -- No more connections from this class)
[ERROR] Closing Link: Elmar[nat66.mia.three.co.uk] (User has been banned from NewNet (AGLINE ID 8ac12dcc5ade645f6f681bebb3f1d1b8 -- No more connections from this class))

Thanks!

   
Jul 31st 2008 at 10:34:47 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Damien@profiles: it would be fine if everybody having utube channel could add link to it

   
Jul 31st 2008 at 05:19:45 AM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

Just got back from holiday yesterday. Two weeks without minesweeper, I think I'm gonig to extend that to six so that my arm can heal properly.

Kat - well done on the record. I haven't watched the vid yet (I will on my other computer sometime) but a lot of my records from low 60s to high 50s were on really easy boards with a poor 3BV stat at the end. It feels little embarassing, but I don't think it's that unusual.

Fritz - I think we all lose interest in minesweeper from time to time. You'll get back into it eventually.

Damien - What I'd like to see in the profiles are players' current records. I know they're all available elsewhere on the site, but it's a bit of a pain having to flick back and forth between profiles and ranking lists.

   
Jul 30th 2008 at 03:52:18 PM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

Well, well KAmil, you keep pushing the boundaries of the game. I like it. That blast moves my estimate of what time is possible down to 7sec. Hope you get a 9 soon.

@Damien: Could we consider a stats section in the profile? Something simple, I think. Perhaps just listing the more important records of that player. (including if possible IOE)

I'm kinda on the IOE bus at the moment, trying to focus on optimalising that.

Ok, bye.

   
Jul 30th 2008 at 12:17:35 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@KAmil: I hope you are alright again now. By the way, does your msn still work? Last 2 times you were online the messages could not be send for some reason.

   
Jul 30th 2008 at 09:13:53 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Ive just came back from a hospital everything hurts and I still have bloody cold, but finally after more than 30 hours without food and sweeping I can eat and sweep
@Ronny: the same day when I made 28/31 est 8, I made 29/31 est9, but I dont really believe @ 8.
@Fritz: sub40NF seems more impossible than 8

   
Jul 30th 2008 at 06:08:52 AM
Name:  

Rodolfo Nunes Mahfuz

Best expert:  

98

Best intermediate:  

34

Best beginner:  

3

Comments:  

I would like to be in my country rank.
I´m from Brazil and would like to know also how can i send u the pictures to evidence my records.

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Jul 29th 2008 at 11:07:53 PM
Name:  

Arjádre

Comments:  

@damien: I suppose now would be a good time to request a profile!

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Jul 29th 2008 at 10:42:31 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@KAmil: You're right it would have indeed been a 8, since a correct guess would have made 29 of 31 in 8,0 so definitely a 8 on 31 of 31..........I bet most people never thought it would even be possible to get a 8, but it sure seems possible now.

BTW, if I were you shouldn't change your goal from 9 to 8 because of this blast. It's a bit like the time I blasted a 13,9 while my 2nd best time was still 18s. Some records are best blasted, so you can still break your record in the future with smaller steps.

   
Jul 29th 2008 at 07:55:57 AM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

Hehe, credit where it's due, but Damien heavily overdoes it there . That post should be read as "Damien is doing a new members area. The project features some minor contributions by joni" since I'm already overwhelmed by my own thesis at the moment. Had to clear that up... otherwise it would have sounded quite incongruous: saying no to a request for help from Rogen with his site just a few days go and then embarking in such a project a couple of days later...

@KAmil: i don't know what people's reactions would have been if you had gotten your guess right... but if you had done so i have to agree with you that that would have been an 8. I hope I get the chance to see some of those skills in Vienna. Anyways, IMHO int sucks and expert with 140-160 3BV and ~17 openings ROCKS

   
Jul 29th 2008 at 05:54:32 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

Hey everybody, Joni and I are making a Members section where you can manage your videos/passwords and edit your profiles (all of the profile, not just the bio). Do you guys have ideas about what would be cool, or other info to include? We could allow photo galleries, or let you change backgrounds, etc... Also, if you want to use a different user name, now is a good time to say!

Sorry for spamming my own guestbook

   
Jul 29th 2008 at 02:56:12 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

Hi Mark...Gregoire is retired (at least while he does his medical degree). You can send me your scores/vids and I'll add them to the ranking (link)

damienalexmoore AT yahoo.com

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Jul 28th 2008 at 05:37:53 PM
Name:  

Tillberg

Comments:  

Hey yo, how do I get ahold of Gregoire Duffez? I just best my PB on expert and would like to move up on the best ever list.

   
Jul 28th 2008 at 02:03:04 PM
Name:  

fritz

Comments:  

@kamil: hurry up a bit with your first sub10 please. i wanna see you breaking sub40 NF too.
...just kidding ...take yourself all the time you need.....but if you can't get sub10 who else might then ever be able ?

@ronny: from my 1st submitted scores to damien till my 1st appearance on WR it was less than 2 months

   
Jul 28th 2008 at 08:53:54 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Ronny: u wanted to say to 8? if I passed the guessing I would have 0,830s to make 2 clicks (and there were only 2 empty squares)

   
Jul 28th 2008 at 07:38:05 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Kamil: Wow that really was close to a 9

   
Jul 27th 2008 at 10:53:51 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

Website Updated :)

I am making a members area so you can edit you profiles and change your log-in information. Hopefully we can make profiles cooler, so you can have freedom to make them personal.

   
Jul 27th 2008 at 05:56:04 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Best intermediate:  

10x10

Comments:  

Just made my biggest blast ever:
Clone: 8,170s 28/31 3BV est 8,938 lost on a fvcking guess
linked

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Jul 27th 2008 at 01:37:23 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

I meant 2006 -> 2007

   
Jul 27th 2008 at 01:26:43 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

i started playing MS in july 2007 and got world ranked on 12 January 2008, anyway I found only planet-minesweeper site and I couldnt find where to post scores, so for the 1st ime I appeared in ranking in March 2008

   
Jul 26th 2008 at 06:28:15 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Bertie: Only 1,5 year to get world ranked?.......took me almost 5*


* with a 3 year break in between

   
Jul 26th 2008 at 04:36:22 PM
Name:  

fritz

Comments:  

@leo:i'm so sorry, i know your situation, kat and tobi banzhaf both retired before i could overtake them. if you want to overtake me then just try to do it. if you want a challenge to my scores then you can try to beat my 45 with finishing less than 500 sub60s before overtaking me or sth like that .
but for the next time i will definetely not even try finish a single exp game.

   
Jul 26th 2008 at 03:25:53 PM
Name:  

Ryo Nishihara (Leo)

Best expert:  

55

Best intermediate:  

11

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

@Fritz: You shall not retire until I pass you, you know

   
Jul 26th 2008 at 02:05:55 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Best beginner:  

1x23 -> x24

Comments:  

in last 3 days I made something like 12x20 on int and cant get 9, so I play a lot of beg

   
Jul 26th 2008 at 05:28:28 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Best expert:  

50.67

Best intermediate:  

13.75

Best beginner:  

2.03

Comments:  

**** fritz! You guys are making me look bad! I had to type out my records just to reassure myself that I belong in the top50 . I got world ranked in 2004 and broke top100 in 2007! On top of that it took like 1 1/2 years after my first exp finish to even get WR!

I'm gonna go home and cry now.

One good thing happened yesterday though. I turned of my history logging and focussed on some IOE. I finished one or two before I got bored with it, one of which I'm quite proud of. 0.99 IOE on a 145 (i made 146 clicks). I also threw in a few goes at int ending with a top of 1.08 IOE on a 40 something.

I hope to put a sup1 IOE exp on the board before long. Cheers

   
Jul 25th 2008 at 12:03:30 PM
Name:  

fritz

Comments:  

@kamil:

my goals were:

in summer 07:
-getting WR-ed
-exp sup2
-int sub3

all reached

in fall 07:
-1sec beg game
-sub20
-sub70

all reached

in winter 07/08:
-sub60
-sup3 exp
-being in top20 in germany
-top10 in germany

spring 08:

-sub55
-sup4 int
-15 on int
-regularly getting sub20
-top100 on WR

all reached

spring 08:
-top50 on WR
-sup4 int
-sup6 beg

all reached

summer 08:

-sub50
-sub60 total on AR
-sup4.5 int
-sup3.5 exp
-regularly getting sub60s and sup3s
-top25 on WR

all reached


the only score i wanted to get but was simply too slow for would have been a 13 on int =>sub60 total + top20.

but what i have reached is enough for me. i don't think that it would be worth it when i spend any more time for another small improvement, it mght have taken me years to break 14 or 45. also my motivation to solve and finish minesweeper boards is completely gone, why should i spend my freetime on sth that doesn't make fun anymore?

if you want i can send you all my arbiter history data and all ~13.000 arbiter replays i have too (well, 13.000 would certainly be too much but if you are interested i can eg send you my sub20 sub60 sup3s and sup4s which would still be >1.000 files)


VC: MATT

   
Jul 25th 2008 at 01:20:11 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@fritz: I wanted to retire 10 times my goals were:
1. sub20 int
2. world ranked
3. sub70 exp
4. int poland record (sub14)
5. sub60 exp
6. 2nd place in poland ranking
7. sub50 exp
8. sub50 NF exp
9. int sub12 ( I made 10 2 days after 11) = 1st place in poland ranking
10. all NF world records
And u see now Im still not retired Im trying to get a 9 and sub44 on NF exp, also Im thinking about playing FL to beat dion's 37, but it can be hard because he pwns alot

   
Jul 24th 2008 at 02:04:23 PM
Name:  

fritz

Best expert:  

i don't

Best intermediate:  

care

Best beginner:  

anymore

Comments:  

?!?
______________________________________________________________________

signatures belong to forums, not to guestboks




looks like i am retiring from minesweeper


since last weekend i somehow don't feel any motivation to finishe anymore exp boards.
i actually had planned to stop sweeping after summer holidays, in 2 months but i'm okay with how it came. since last saturday i have completed only 2 int boards on clone, i'm mainly focussed on nonosweeper atm.

i'm so sorry for all the people who wanted to overtake me as an active sweeper .

   
Jul 24th 2008 at 01:14:36 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

Yeah... lots of colored icons, but sadly enough for you none of them works on a Mac... If you download and install one you would be able to watch videos of games played on that clone... which would open your eyes to the many different styles out there and definitely inspire you to newer heights .

20 on intermediate is a good objective and would be enough to put you in the World Rankings =) [considering that a 3 on beg would be a joke in comparison]. What is your sweeping style on Int? That is, do you tend to flag a lot and be fast? or try to think and flag selectively?, or maybe flag nothing at all?

It just struck me how amazing it is for a community to build around a guestbook... considering their inherently anonimous nature (haven't blamed Damien yet today have I? ). Anyways... i suddenly feel the need for a signature

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Hi there and welcome! My name is joni and I am THE [one and only ] Albanian sweeper around here!".

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Jul 24th 2008 at 11:47:45 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Top 10 world ranked players: can u send me your history files, please? superzombie@op.pl
thanks

   
Jul 24th 2008 at 11:27:18 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Renee: That are the symbols of the different official Minesweeper versions that are allowed for the ranking. All these versions have proven to be reliable clones of the orginal Minesweeper game. Other versions aren't allowed for the ranking.

The light gray mine: Minesweeper Clone (My personal favorite)
The blue mine: Winmine XP
The dark gray mine: Minesweeper X / Winmine 3.1 / '98 (they have same logo?)
The yellow smiley: Arbiter
The red cloud thingy: Vienna Sweeper

   
Jul 24th 2008 at 09:26:03 AM
Name:  

Renee

Comments:  

I think I understand a bit better now, but one thing is still unclear to me.
The symbols by the scores are different for a lot of people. What do they mean? There are exploding mines, regular mines, a smiley face with 'x's in his eyes, and what looks like a red explosion.

Yes, I want to cut down my intermediate score, but I am having a hard time. My goal right now is 20 seconds, but I keep being careless and clicking the wrong areas x.x I have been a mac user for the last year now, so my minesweeper skills are very rusty. I booted up my very old PC last night to play, and it looks like I got a lot of trainin' to do!

   
Jul 24th 2008 at 01:16:40 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Dion: I see that u made 39 and 40 suring last 3 weeks, why u dont post your scores to active ranking? Thats the reason why I probably also will stop - there is no point to be a active ranking if it doesnt show all players record
btw, do u use 1,5 clicks?

   
Jul 23rd 2008 at 11:09:55 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

Hi Renee and welcome to the community
You are right to point that out... it looks like Damien has managed to drop that table's header/legend during one of his endless facelifts to the site... If you don't mind a bit of mess on the colors (i'm actually colorblind ) it should read like this:

Country Rank (navy blue); Full name (black); [optional: arrow opening the player's profile in a new window if he/she has one]; Total Sum (i would have said green , but if you say it's red i trust you ; Country (grey); then comes the Beginner score: symbol of the clone where it was played, score, date; the same for Intermediate and Expert.

If all still doesn't really fit for you, Damien is again the one to blame . In the past we had only integer times (from winmine of course) so we summed up the integers to make the Total Sum. Now there are a whole lot of decimal scores in the ranking (from the minesweeper clones), but only the integer part of them is added up for the Total Sum (which still makes some sense... since the counter does start at 1 and not 0). It really sounds messy... and probably it is that too... so to answer in short:

your first "red" score would be 110 (= 6 + 28 + 76) which is quite nice . You should be able to cut at least 3 seconds to that beg score with no effort if you ask me, and gradually improve in intermediate too.
All the best!
/joni being a bit more formal than usual

   
Jul 23rd 2008 at 06:39:55 PM
Name:  

Renee

Best expert:  

76

Best intermediate:  

28

Best beginner:  

6

Comments:  

Hi, I just found this website because I wanted to see how my minesweeper scored measure up to others! Some people are super good! Can someone explain to me what the symbols mean on the world and country rankings are? Is the first score in red the best expert time or what? Thank you guys =)

   
Jul 23rd 2008 at 03:29:04 AM
Name:  

Gergõ

Comments:  

@Kat: Congrats!
@Gergely: Welcome back! Will you have more time from now? Let us show the Hungarians' force to the world .

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Jul 23rd 2008 at 02:32:48 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Best beginner:  

1x22 -> x23

Comments:  

1,670 on 3, also made 2x2NF on 12 3bv.
@Kat: nice, it took me 5 trys to solve it (45NF 5th try)
If Lukasz finds sponsor for us, I will come to Vienna IV

   
Jul 22nd 2008 at 08:09:39 PM
Name:  

WP

Comments:  

Oops, sorry about that, Joni. I had even forgotten all about saying that until I saw my own words staring back at me :P

Congrats Kat! I don't understand the embarrassment though; if you're talking about it being a 3bv of 101, I think that you should be proud of having finished it that quickly. Even if I'd managed to finish such a board, I'd probably have done it in more than 60s...

I found the game a little overflagged as well, but I myself am flagging more nowadays, and sometimes it's better to flag first while thinking rather than to think over how useful each flag will be before starting to do anything. (if that makes sense )

Hehe, Ronny's post lower down the page had me laugh; a typo that turned "guestbook" into "questbook". Now ain't that true? We're documenting our quest right here...

   
Jul 22nd 2008 at 03:04:28 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

Kat ssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuubbbbb-60!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought it was a nice game. always looking for solving what is solvable, and inevitably losing a bit time on the forced guesses, but always keeping it flowing. Well done!!!! It surely didn't look easy on the replay, and that 101 there doesn't add any useful insights IMO.

Ronny: being a no-flagger biases you a bit , 28 unflagged would have been considered standard in the days of Lasse and Dan. A true overflagger would have placed three to five flags on the far right "5" . (have you seen any Lukasz vid lately xD).
Funny enough -- at the time when I could still have an influence on Kat's style, and encouraged her to flag a little less -- there was a record of hers (or maybe almost record) WP critisized for having too few flags.. in her words she felt "Kat was forcing herself to play without flags though deep inside she wanted to put them"... Call that female intuition or whatever, that statement was enough to crush all those months of hard work by my side . Oh well. It all payed off in the end

Sub-60.000000000000000000000000000000!!!!!!!!!!!

   
Jul 22nd 2008 at 12:55:44 PM
Name:  

fritz

Comments:  

@kat: biig, biiiiig grats to your 1st sub60.
i say: noone deserved such a record atm more than you.
you did awesome on this board!!! i couldn't finish your board in 1st try upk and 1st finished time was a lousy 62 . it's good to see you back in top200.
don't let us wait so long for your next highscore

   
Jul 22nd 2008 at 12:48:38 PM
Name:  

Gergely Nagy

Comments:  

Hello Everyone!
Long time no post from me as I don't have too much time for sweeping nowadays.
But...
I will be in Vienna at the tournament and am curious how many of You I will meet there
Can someone post a summary of sweepers who will participate? I'm a bit too lazy to go through all the post to find everyone
thanks and see You there!

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Jul 22nd 2008 at 05:33:15 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Katrina: Lol, I've never even solver nor blasted a 101 3BV Board. Still it was nice you had the patience not to blast it, because I've always lost my patience at those type of boards on started guessing all over the place. Still big congrats for keeping your patience on a board like that, cause most of us would have blasted it 10 out of 10.

BTW you overflag a lot.

   


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