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Apr 20th 2008 at 02:54:50 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

Talking about bad streaks, since April 7 I've solved only 5 boards:
95,274s
113,509s
99,268s
119,167s
110,753s

Probably the reason why I feel like quiting lately.

   
Apr 20th 2008 at 02:51:04 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Jon S: Very nice...I'm still amazed that people can simply solve 9 or more boards in a short time. I have troubles solving 1 per day and on a bad streak it can sometimes take a couple of days to solve 1.

   
Apr 20th 2008 at 02:29:22 PM
Name:  

Jon S

Best expert:  

53

Comments:  

Congrats to the Chinese guys & gals and other record breakers

I decided that it was about time to play my first couple of expert boards this year. The 9th board I finished was a nice 136 3BV in 53 seconds

I even spent two seconds looking for the last mine. Oh well...

Video in my folder

   
Apr 20th 2008 at 02:12:37 PM
Name:  

WP

Comments:  

That is why discussions should be public. I shall certainly be pushing for that, and you have my word for it that if I stay in the IMC you shall have more transparency, 'cos if it can't be done I shall be quitting as well. My idea of being in the IMC isn't to shut myself away from the rest of the community.

I am now wondering what's the point of the IMC when almost half of the elected members are gone. I don't want to make any rash decisions, but amongst my thoughts are to call for an abolition (and maybe re-election) or to simply quit (that would make me the shortest-serving member in history! lol)

Of course, this isn't the IMC speaking, it's just me ;)

   
Apr 20th 2008 at 01:34:29 PM
Name:  

Christoph

Comments:  

@Areout: Because Damien til the end pretended to think about a cooperation and I hoped all the way that we can work that out.

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Apr 20th 2008 at 01:06:59 PM
Name:  

AreOut

Comments:  

I dont want to enter discussion as I am not informed enough but I am just curious why you didn't mention this earlier?

   
Apr 20th 2008 at 09:20:59 AM
Name:  

Christoph

Comments:  

I will retire from the IMC today.
The reason for that is Damien Moores behavior in the last 18 months. It is entirely impossible to work together with him as he demands as a minimum that one has to do absolutely everything he wants. He is working only for his personal fame forgetting completely about the community.
(Perhaps you remember his question about the purpose of the IMC lately on the GB? Pretty much all the answers went exactly the opposite as he would have liked. In all our discussions afterwards he either ignored that or made me understand that it would be good for the community if it changed its opinion.)

How did all that happen?

Long ago the IMC decided to provide an official world ranking on minesweeper.cc. Back then the planet minesweeper ranking was not updated anymore and the ranking on metanoodle was completly outdated. Now more then a year ago the ranking tools on minesweeper.cc were ready for use.

Unfortunately Damien Moore did everything to prevent people using the minesweeper.cc ranking. Instead helping building up a really good ranking system he put in a big effort to delay the IMC work and to get his own ranking up to date (avoiding to forward any scores to the IMC and - as he told me yesterday - not applying IMC decisions). He even told me he'd like to revote some 'important' decisions (the list of those he gave me contained the decisions which didn't go as he desired it).

However, I tried and tried to cooperate with him - but whatever I offered he just ignored it, even though he and his site would have heavily profited.
He wants to have total control over the unique ranking and wants the IMC to just say 'yes' to every of his ideas so he can use it to make his desired dictatorship look like a democracy - at least that's the summary of what he told me lately.

I told him that he can't play this game with me any longer and said directly that I understand what he's doing. To that he reacted by finally confessing that he doesn't want to cooperate with me (unless I delete the work I did for the community and help him make everyone worship him without having any say myself).

If you're interested in the damage he caused:
We could have set up a lot of features for the community. Already half a year ago we could have had:
* online videos for almost all clones (so that everybody could watch videos in the browser without needing a clone)
* direct uploads (you would just need to click a button to upload a score you just played or have in your history)
* ranking cooperations (uploading a score to i.e. minesweeper.cc would have made the score also visible on Damiens ranking - or the chinese, russion or japanese one - depending on what you desired and who would have joined in).

Thanks to Damien Moore these and many more features (I tired to work on) never came together - and as it now got more difficult to cooperate with the clone designers some of them will probably never come true.

I thought about just turning my back to minesweeper at all to forget about all the frustration that came along with the hopeless try to make the IMC work. However, I care too much about the community, so I can't do that.
I'll keep up the official world ranking and the active ranking on minesweeper.cc til the end of the year. Also the world championships in Vienna will not be affected - they will take place as planed (but they will probably be the last tournament I'll organize).
If there should come along a sensible and anyhow acceptable solution til the end of the year and if minesweeper.cc will find a little support, I might think about staying and helping the community whereever I can. Otherwise Damien Moore can feel as the winner having destroyed the greatest project the minesweeper community ever started.

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Apr 20th 2008 at 04:21:06 AM
Name:  

Zhang Hong

Best intermediate:  

NF 14.57 -> 13.71

Comments:  

I've broken my int record on a 35 board

   
Apr 20th 2008 at 02:59:35 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Congrats to E Short name

   
Apr 19th 2008 at 06:01:12 PM
Name:  

Zhang Shen Jia

Best expert:  

38

Comments:  

2008/4/20 E Tao Jin get a 49.59 in 120 board, she is the first Sub50 woman in the world!

   
Apr 19th 2008 at 12:57:42 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@KAmil: Txs, now it's time that you finish a 118 3BV on expert at my int speed and you'll have your long waited WR.

   
Apr 19th 2008 at 11:54:15 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Congrats to Traian and Ronny
I will try this board on Monday, I wont be able to play MS tomorrow

   
Apr 19th 2008 at 11:07:48 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Best intermediate:  

NF 3BVs: 2,8xx(3x) -> 2,8xx(4x) -> 2,959 (3BV=118!!!!, vienna)

Comments:  

Never had an Int board with 118 3BV, but it sure went very fast.

Would have been sup3, but I somehow forgot the click the last square underneath my cursor...which cost me a whole second.

NF Sum: 3,859 + 2,959 + 2,021 = 8,839

Vid link

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Apr 19th 2008 at 07:46:32 AM
Name:  

Traian

Best expert:  

2x64 -> 3x64

Comments:  

Well, it seems I'm back in the game!
This is my first expert board finished in 7 days. After watching the replay I saw how strugglish my moves were, but hell, me happy anyway.
Since I restarted sweeping, I have 2-17-64. All on Arbiter this time. I think I'll stick to it for a while. Out of superstition.

@Gergo: I only have 2 sub20. 17 and 18.

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Apr 18th 2008 at 01:27:52 AM
Name:  

Gergő

Comments:  

@Ronny: I downloaded your best NF int 3BV/s. I will watch it in the weekend (you know that I don't have net connection at home). I think my best ten 3BV/s average is very close to yours, but I will check it until monday. I think, the top 10 is above 2,65, but it's not sure. This coevolution is great. Nice to see that there is a guy who is so close to me in every statistics and we can help each other to get better . I downloaded my best speed into my NF folder.
@Kamil: I have already 3 sub 20 times .

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Apr 17th 2008 at 02:53:28 PM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

dion wrote me in January 2008:

"I dont think i've played enough to get 10k sub20s lol. I just checked, I have around 5000.
And also I have 1041 sub50s."

   
Apr 17th 2008 at 11:29:20 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Dion Tiu: how many sub20 have u got?

   
Apr 17th 2008 at 11:07:40 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Gergő: Nice....you're getting really close to my 3BVs now. I've blasted a few possible sup3 lately and 80% of my best 3BVs are from April, so I like to take another leap soon before you catch up. If you're interesting in my Top10 best 3BVs, see attached link.

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Apr 17th 2008 at 08:01:05 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Congrats to all record breakers
@Fritz: very lucky board, anyway g00d job My record for 6 3bv is 1,987, but it was NF
@Damien: u forgot to put me on girls ranking

   
Apr 17th 2008 at 05:44:22 AM
Name:  

Gergő

Comments:  

NF int 3BV/s record! 2,840 on a 73 board in 26,704. Previous record: 2,801. It was an IOS record, as well, a 1,32150 after the previous record 1,31650. If i not forget it tonight, it will be put in my folder tomorrow. This week I seem not to play as concerts are coming. Every evening until saturday...
@Tibor: Good luck and lot of knowledge for your exams, and we are waiting you back

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Apr 16th 2008 at 10:52:42 PM
Name:  

Name field is required

Best expert:  

Serpenter_e

Comments:  

here it comes, global warming!

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Apr 16th 2008 at 02:10:16 PM
Name:  

damien

Best expert:  

Website Updated again

Comments:  

(I'm trying to do this twice a week now)

   
Apr 16th 2008 at 01:33:08 PM
Name:  

Tibor

Comments:  

it's a busy period...i have to prepare some exames...
do you noticed how much are similar our games???

   
Apr 16th 2008 at 01:10:09 PM
Name:  

fritz

Comments:  

@tibor: thanks. why didn't you play minesweeper and why do you expect not to play next month?

   
Apr 16th 2008 at 12:50:13 PM
Name:  

Tibor

Comments:  

@fritz: congrats for 1,94 sec beginner...you played a game (almost) identical to my best beginner, beating it by 0,01 sec...(look it in my folder)
i think that your 0,30 RQP is the best ever scored...
(Tam or Kamil could confirm)

@all: i didn't play in the last 10 days... and i expect not to play during the next month

   
Apr 16th 2008 at 12:14:16 PM
Name:  

fritz

Comments:  

@elmar: thanks a lot

   
Apr 16th 2008 at 11:46:32 AM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

@Fritz: Best get an IRC client (like chatzilla extension for firefox) then it's under: irc://initialized.org/#minesweeper
You can also go to initialized.org and use the Java chat on that site...

   
Apr 16th 2008 at 11:20:34 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

No problem, good luck on breaking records.

   
Apr 16th 2008 at 10:42:19 AM
Name:  

Timothy

Comments:  

I found minesweeper clone 2007 on google and it seems to be pretty good. Thank you for the help Ronny.

   
Apr 16th 2008 at 10:12:32 AM
Name:  

Timothy

Comments:  

@Ronny: Can I dowload it at this site?

   
Apr 16th 2008 at 10:02:20 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Timothy: I use Camtasia recorder to record Windows Minesweeper. However, the easiest way is to simply download Minesweeper Clone 2007 or Minesweeper Arbiter, because they can save your board as video file and you or others can even replay your boards in 'UPK' mode (off course not for setting records) and these programs also offer a lot of other features like statistics.

   
Apr 16th 2008 at 09:42:37 AM
Name:  

Timothy

Comments:  

Hi I played minesweeper a long time ago and now I have recently started to play again, but I don't remember what programs to use for recording. Could anyone recommend a program that record videos of when you play and also tells the 3BV/s?

   
Apr 16th 2008 at 08:15:29 AM
Name:  

fritz

Comments:  

@kat: how do i get there ??

@kamil: grats on getting another world record.

@ronny: i hate these missed squares too. usually it depends on my mood if i finish them or click the next mine.

   
Apr 16th 2008 at 07:24:38 AM
Name:  

Christoph

Comments:  

@KAmil: There is no 'exactly'. As we have to suffer from the windows message que there is no way to tell exactly when the mousebuttons where clicked. Dependingly on your operating system, your hardware and how busy the message que is while you're playing the best you can hope for is that the messured time is inside realtime+/-0.004sec - but it even can be +/-0.01.
The thousands that all the modern clones give you are nothing else than wild guesses, even the hundreths have a chance of about 15% to be wrong.
The thrid and fourth digit after the ',' in these quotients mean nothing at all as you are pretty much guaranted that they have nothing to do with the truth.

   
Apr 16th 2008 at 05:12:05 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Damien: Vienna tells that its 3,66, but its exactly 3,6646. btw, what would Clone say? 3,664 or 3,665?

   
Apr 16th 2008 at 12:07:56 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Kamil: Very nice....also first Vienna World Record, so I bet Christoph will like it too.

   
Apr 15th 2008 at 11:46:40 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Best expert:  

NF 3,525 -> 3,66 !!!

Comments:  

World record 207 3BV in 57,48, on Vienna Vid in my folder

   
Apr 15th 2008 at 11:36:16 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Just made 49.00 on 151 on Vienna Flagging is good

   
Apr 15th 2008 at 04:41:43 PM
Name:  

Kat

Comments:  

This community has an IRC channel. If you don't know how to get there and want to join please ask.

   
Apr 15th 2008 at 04:32:30 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Best intermediate:  

FL 20,1 -> 17,4 (35/36 deliberate blast after missed square)

Comments:  

@Fritz: probably right.

I've just blasted a 'once in a month'-type easy board on Clone. I've solved it in 17,4 and had missed a very easy square that I could probably find in 1 sec, but instead it annoyed me that I had missed one and deliberately blasted it with 2,5s to go to finally get that sub20. This is getting so annoying.

   
Apr 15th 2008 at 03:10:13 PM
Name:  

fritz

Comments:  

@ronny: i wouldn't say that i'm really stuck on 15 on int. i'm simply too slow on low 3BV boards to be faster than 15 sec.
there's a small difference between vsweep and the other clones. while it took me 2 hours today to get 19xsub20 on int on arbiter (6x17) i got 11xsub20 in 30 minutes on vsweep (15,3x16,17). maybe vsweep only fits better to some styles of sweeping than other clones do?

   
Apr 15th 2008 at 03:02:55 PM
Name:  

fritz

Best beginner:  

1,76 on vienna sweeper 5.3 3BV arbiter

Comments:  

i just got a 1 on arbiter and this is a score that really fits into the beginner 3BV discussion.

1.94 sec on 3BV=6 flagging (1 mine) 3BV/s = 6,38 (highscore) RQP= 0,30 (highscore)

i'm not really sure whether i should claim this as my 3BV/s highscore or not. on the one hand it is a relatively easy board but on the other hand the high 3BV/s value is also related to the flag i used the efficient following click.
what do you (= @all) think about that board?

vid is in my folder

   
Apr 15th 2008 at 02:47:45 PM
Name:  

Christoph Brückmann

Best intermediate:  

27.19

Best beginner:  

NF 2.41

Comments:  

Non-Flag-Taining with a 2.41s Luckshot in beginner-Score. :D (today 15.4.08) and an older (but better) Intermediate Score 27.19 (31.07.08) both on Minesweeper Clone.
Thanks for adding!

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Apr 15th 2008 at 01:44:57 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Best intermediate:  

Vienna NF 20,00

Comments:  

5th time overall. I've played a little on vienna now and I don't see any difference between Clone and Vienna, tbh. Does monitor refresh rate matter on Clone as well?

@Fritz: Also stuck on a score? Hehe, I've got 2x20,2x21,10x22 with flagging now and still no sub20, so you're not the only one.

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Apr 15th 2008 at 01:06:18 PM
Name:  

fritz

Best intermediate:  

15,64 on vienna sweeper

Comments:  

15x5==>15x6

15.89 on 3BV=37 on viennasweeper.

   
Apr 15th 2008 at 07:20:26 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Gergő: I noticed that too once. Logical off course, because only at the end isn't a guess and very hard to solve because the whole board would have to be scanned for other surrounded squares to be certain it's not a guess. I can imagine the programmer didn't bother to fix it.

   
Apr 15th 2008 at 04:01:38 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

hi ryan! last time i heard, you were finishing an aerodynamics degree and had moved to dubai. too bad you still have the same scores your website is a lot prettier than it used to be...but i really liked your old one!

Just so everyone knows, ryan used to be one of the best players (his scores were made in 2002 and earlier), and he made a minesweeper ranking called 'The Minesweeper Top 50' for a few months in 2000. It was hosted on geocities, so I didn't notice it when I started this one.

   
Apr 15th 2008 at 03:42:05 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Just blasted 120/126, 41 NF on timer
Blst kind: impossilbe end

   
Apr 15th 2008 at 02:47:31 AM
Name:  

Gergő

Comments:  

By the way. Is the statement of the Clone 2007 always right about guessed clicks? Can we trust in it with 100% precision? What are your experiences? There was few times that there was only one square free in the corner, but surrounded by 3 mines. It was sure that nowhere else can the only free field be. When I clicked on it, Clone said that it was a guessed click...

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Apr 15th 2008 at 02:19:43 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

16,9xx in 2008* My avg 3bv is 57 I think

   
Apr 15th 2008 at 02:18:39 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Manu: I installed Clone when my Int record was 19 on winmine Few dats later I made 18NF In overall stats its written that my avg is 18, but in Tables by Year its 16,9xx

   
Apr 15th 2008 at 01:13:09 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Lincoln: I think 1 in 10 expert boards can be finished without guessing, so I think you're still overlooking some patterns. You could try downloading Minesweeper Clone 2007 and download some of the videos of players here. Using clone you can review their videos up to 0,01 x normal speed, so you can watch it at a speed at which you are still able to follow it. Clone can also highlight when a click is a guess and when it isn't, so every time you think a guess is made, but Clone thinks it isn't. Stop the video and study the board until you see why it wasn't a guess.

   
Apr 14th 2008 at 11:13:04 PM
Name:  

Gergő

Comments:  

@Lincoln: According to my experiences it would be a great luck if you finish a game with more than four 50-50 guesses. I usually blast games with more than 3 guesses. Mostly the without guesses games make up my finished ones and the number with 2 guesses is around few percent of finished games. But I seem to play too little compared to the best players.
@all: I broke my int NF 3BV/s record, but only with six thousadth . I made a 2,801 on a 98 board in 35,988. On friday I made a 20 and my third sub 20, a 18. Maybe 2-3 years later I will have the chance to break my 16 . Until than I try to do a lot of sub 20s...

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Apr 14th 2008 at 06:30:21 PM
Name:  

Lincoln

Comments:  

I have played expert hundreds of times over the past few months and have not been able to beat it once. I thought that was normal until I looked on these sites. There must be something wrong with my brain. It seems like I am always having to guess which is what gets me. The farthest I have gotten was down to 11 and I guessed like 5 times to get there which was a 3.1/100 chance of getting that far if it was only a 50/50 chance each time. whats the normal amount of guessing for a single completed game?

   
Apr 14th 2008 at 03:55:18 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Ryan: Welcome back....I've started playing in 2003 and haven't posted a score online before 2007, so I don't know you and the good old days, but it's always nice to see people return. Are you also playing again or still trying to resist?

   
Apr 14th 2008 at 03:43:25 PM
Name:  

Ryan Gazder

Best expert:  

62

Best intermediate:  

19

Best beginner:  

3

Comments:  

Hi everyone, I was part of early minesweeper communities online that started around 10 years ago (Damien Moore et all) and were frequented by the likes of Damien, Sriram Shreedharan, Lasse Nyholm et al. I was also briefly active on the first minesweeper forum setup by Damien when he was ohsting his minesweeper site at metanoodle.com (yes it was several years ago) and stopped playing around the time just before active ranking was introduced. I guess this is a homecoming of sorts, and although many names are new here, a big hello to one and all!

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Apr 14th 2008 at 02:29:03 PM
Name:  

manuel h

Comments:  

hahaha ronny, i still save ALL my sub20 times, and sub60 exp, so i have > 15000 vids in my ms folder ;-)

grats to damien for finaly passing that **** 10000 limit ;-)

@kamil:
do u have any stats before clone or did u start playing ms int with 18 s avrg ? i mean <300x19 , wtf ! btw, u seem to play very selective, whats ur 3bv avrg for ur finished int games ?


mfg
manu

   
Apr 14th 2008 at 01:56:21 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

I got 5 Top10 times on intermediate in the same day and almost beat my 3BVs record (2,863 = 0,007 too slow with 6 openings!!!).

Still no sub20 with flags, but I did get a 22,272 (3BV=56) and 2x20, so that should only be a matter of time with a lower 3BV board.

(BTW, I used to save all my sub25 times, but since I got 10 of those today.....I think I can lower that limit now. )

Vids linked

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Apr 14th 2008 at 11:22:38 AM
Name:  

fritz

Comments:  

@kamil: thx.

   
Apr 14th 2008 at 10:39:42 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Ronny: put 1 flag and NF then
Congrats to fritz

   
Apr 14th 2008 at 12:57:14 AM
Name:  

AreOut

Comments:  

http://www.minesweeper.info/graphics/anonyfemale.PNG

Hahahahah now I will have wet dreams if I play ms frequently

   
Apr 13th 2008 at 04:36:42 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Best intermediate:  

FL 21,152 -> FL 20,136 (3BV=39, 7 openings)

Comments:  

Felt like ages since I broke a record, but at least my final (intermediate/expert) record from 2007 is gine now.

Since my NF time is still 4s faster, I want to get a flag time of sub20...maybe this week.

@Damien: (I have only 4)

   
Apr 13th 2008 at 01:44:57 PM
Name:  

fritz

Best intermediate:  

15,64 on vienna sweeper

Comments:  

15x4==>15x5
15,69 sec on 3BV=47 @ 3,19 3BV/s
arbiter highscores for time and RQP
but why does the arbiter counters window say time ranked 2 when there's also been a pop-up window saying time highscore?

@damien: grats to that crazy achievement.

@arj: too bad that munich is 'bout 300km away. but your post made me a little bit curious: where are you exactly with your school trip and most of all WHY? (i mean there are a lot of cities in germany which are worth going there on a school trip)

   
Apr 13th 2008 at 10:56:34 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Damien: Big congrats I have 1747 sub20 (Clone + 10 and 11 on another versions):
10x4
11x15
12x38
13x84
14x154
15x220
16x288
17x340
18x310
19x294
Btw, can u put me on Girls Ranking?

   
Apr 13th 2008 at 10:18:52 AM
Name:  

damien

Best expert:  

10,000 sub20's

Comments:  

Finally!

11 x5
12 x21
13 x91
14 x300
15 x633
16 x1167
17 x2031
18 x2660
19 x3092

Game 10000 was an 18.843 on a 62 board. Still no 10... (the above does not include ViennaSweeper, or ~350 clone scores that were lost due to computer crashes).

   
Apr 13th 2008 at 06:48:07 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Best beginner:  

1x17 -> 18

Comments:  

1,839 on 3

   
Apr 13th 2008 at 05:34:46 AM
Name:  

tK

Comments:  

@Arj if you come to/near vienna as well we could meet up! ;)

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Apr 13th 2008 at 02:42:13 AM
Name:  

WP

Comments:  

It's a little pointless having a girl's ranking for minesweeper, since it's not like guys have a big advantage over girls anyway (except for their interest and competitiveness, maybe) But I won't complain about there being a ranking, since it's the only way I can get into the top 10! lol (oh gosh, there are 2 girls in front of me, I've got to play!!! :P)

By the way, Damien, I believe Sok Ann Yap (or more like Yap Sok Ann) is a girl ;) (unless if I'm very very much mistaken!)

   
Apr 12th 2008 at 06:47:59 PM
Name:  

Arjädre is in Germany.

Comments:  

Katy, nice to see you posting here. I remember Badgers mentioning a female friend from MIT who had a 52 on expert but refused to come onto the lists... I suppose women are just less competitive.

On an unrelated note, I am currently in Germany (near Switzerland) on a school trip. I don't know whether there are any sweepers out here or if any kind of meet-up is even possible, but I just thought I'd put that out there... email me at ajdmines AT yahoo.com if you're around here.

As always, congrats to record breakers and happy sweeping!

   
Apr 12th 2008 at 05:07:20 PM
Name:  

Banzhaf

Comments:  

ooo, MSX has officially become legal, I like that!

   
Apr 12th 2008 at 05:03:02 PM
Name:  

Banzhaf

Comments:  

yeah, a female friend of mine was almost as good as me, but she refused with might and main to join the rankings... I think she was simply somewhat shy, another point will be that girls aren't such ambitious egocentrics like us?!;P

   
Apr 12th 2008 at 03:13:16 PM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

hey joni, i'm glad to hear that. i have 3313 people who sent me scores, and of these only 10.2% are girls. 9.8% of the country ranking is girls, and only 6.4% of the world ranking is girls.

i would be very happy if you found more girl players

   
Apr 12th 2008 at 02:26:23 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

"The world ranking, records and videos on these pages were all made by girls only. Although 10% of minesweeper nerds are girls, only 6% of the World Ranking is female. Come on gals...you can do better!"
where do you get that data damien? it seems to me you're highly underestimating the number of girls with that 10% there...
The biggest facebook group about MS, aptly called "I am completely and utterly obsessed.. with minesweeper." is started by two girls and has a ratio that looks like 40% to 60% (girls vs guys) with about 1100 members.
In the German version of facebook studivz.net there's a minesweeper group with over 500 members with about 1-to-2 ratio...

   
Apr 12th 2008 at 01:13:11 PM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

thanks katy...i thought we'd never see you again! i just changed the girl ranking to www.minesweeper.info/girls and made girl-only country rankings. it would be cool if you could take the top again...you became #1 exactly at the time i stopped udating the old list. tried to find you a few times, but you vanished.

   
Apr 12th 2008 at 12:03:26 PM
Name:  

katy lavallee

Comments:  

Just saw the girl rankings, so nevermind.

   
Apr 12th 2008 at 11:59:38 AM
Name:  

katy lavallee

Comments:  

Hi guys,

A sweeper chick sent a friend request to me on Facebook. It made realize how out of touch I am with the community.

I don't like to friend people I've never had a conversation with, so who is Katrina Cassar and how can I chat with her? Is she "kat"?

Damien, you're doing great with this site. I'm so glad to see so much information pulled together. However, I think it's time we got an official ranking list for females. I know it's difficult with so many chinese players, but I think we should at least try.

I found out from Aryeh that my place as fastest female sweeper was taken. I wish I could play enough to really compete, but I don't think I was going to get any better anyway. I'm on a Mac now, so I guess I'm retired. I fire up the old PC every now and again, but it's such a pain.

So, how is everyone? What's up? What's going on in your lives?

I'm still working as a PHP developer for a small company here in Texas. I haven't done any front-end development in a long time. Mostly I figure out how to track visitors and make reports based on those statistics. I love that part of my job... so if I ever have time to build my own site... watch out 'cause I'll be tracking you! I'm still engaged and not married to Chance.

You can find me many places online if you want to keep in touch:

* www.iconbuffet.com/people/katylava
* twitter.com/katylava
* www.myspace.com/katylava
* google reader shared items: http://www.google.com/reader/shared/00142477331210699629
* http://www.last.fm/user/katylava/
* http://www.flickr.com/photos/katylava/

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Apr 12th 2008 at 11:39:07 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

The best thing would be to make new Clone and Arbiter versions with Vienna's squares openings system
I think Vienna can be up to 10% faster than clone, my Clone exp record is 47NF on 148, and in 5 minutes playing on vienna I made 47NF on 161

   
Apr 12th 2008 at 11:34:56 AM
Name:  

fritz

Best expert:  

3,26 (arbiter)

Best intermediate:  

4,01===>4.148 (arbiter)

Best beginner:  

5,35 (arbiter)

Comments:  

4.148 3BV/s on 3BV=100 board in 25.12 sec RQP=6.05 ranks 1900(time)/1(3BV/s).
wow! this board came so unexpectedly. i decided to play some int because i thought 5x exp sub60 on one day should be enough and then i suddenly got this pop-up window .

@kat: good idea
@damien: why not?

   
Apr 12th 2008 at 09:37:34 AM
Name:  

joni

Best expert:  

Attention! long boring post comming ://

Comments:  

There are several things to consider when talking clone speeds.
In the original minesweeper, when you click on an opening, the squares open following a pattern similar to a wave created when dropping a stone in a pond... try an expert board with few mines for example (Curtis Bright has studied the exact pattern in detail). According to Curtis minesweeperX is the only clone that takes care to emulate this, the MS Clone and Arbiter behave differently, (Curtis was referring to Clone 2006 and/or earlier, while the Viennasweeper was not publicly released then). In the MS Clone 2007 Rodrigo proudly claimed he had speeded up the clone by displaying the openings faster than before (opening all the squares at once).
I don't know how Vienna displays openings, but I've heard Christoph speculating Vienna is faster at displaying single squares because of the way it handles mouse clicks and the way it is written (not relying on the heavy .NET framework).
Based on the experience of Budapest 2007 i felt the game flowed really well, and personally I think that -- if this difference exists -- it helps only the players who flag/double click a lot (like Christoph himself or Fritz). I broke my 3BV/s record by a huge amount during that session (3.0 -> 3.25 , record still standing) and I was horrified the next day when watching the video to see I had used as much as 91 flags in that game ... It was like the game flow had encouraged me to flag and doubleclick more and more... Several other players also felt fast and got great results, so the myth of Vienna being fast was born.
On the few occasions i play these days i'm a converted NFer, and I feel completely the opposite about Vsweeper, the games there don't flow at all

   
Apr 12th 2008 at 09:03:10 AM
Name:  

tK

Comments:  

I would say that everything not under zero is legal

A square should be opened the moment the mouse click that causes it to be opened occurs. The only reason it doesn't in winmine (or all other clones) is that it has to be processed before that can happen.

And if a clone takes less time to open a square it is better equipment - so what? It is more modern, and the better computers get, the better the response time will get anyway. The more the clone can reduce that time by working efficiently, the better IMO. And there is no use in trying to measure response time for that reason anyway - it is dependent on the computer it runs on, and the clone will probably open squares much faster on a modern computer in ten years than ViennaSweeper ever could on a modern computer today.

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Apr 12th 2008 at 08:48:30 AM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

@Ronny: sorry, I have never used Clone2007. But if there is somthing like effictive clicks in there it should be obvious from the definitions I gave, no?

@Damien: I think it would be cool to have a part of the site only for KAmil records, stats and rankings. www.minesweeper.info/kamil/ etc.

   
Apr 12th 2008 at 08:27:20 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

@kamil: if we could measure this, we would make a rule about what is legal for all clones. christoph can give a guess, but it is a LOT of work to measure this.

girl ranking - done (not very good yet). Linked.

do you think it would be cool to have a part of the site only for girl records, stats and rankings? www.minesweeper.info/girls/ etc?

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Apr 12th 2008 at 08:14:12 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Does anyboby know how many % faster is Vienna than Clone? (showing squares)

   
Apr 12th 2008 at 07:00:04 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

so much for kat retiring and leaving me alone! There will be a girl ranking on info in the next few hours.

   
Apr 12th 2008 at 02:08:43 AM
Name:  

kat

Comments:  

@Damien: Girls ranking?

   
Apr 11th 2008 at 08:10:09 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Just got 2,923s NF on 12, as my 1st 2on12

   
Apr 11th 2008 at 04:38:09 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

Thanx Elmar. Now I don't feel so left out any more. The throughput and correctness ones are actually quite cool.

   
Apr 10th 2008 at 04:52:14 PM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Elmar: Thanks for the info. Do you know a way to make a customized index in Clone for this?

@Damien: Thanks for the player profile.

My vids can now be found in my folder.

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Apr 10th 2008 at 03:51:22 PM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

@Bertie: There is no IOEff OR IOE. IOE is Index of Efficiency=3bv/clicks
In Arbiter IOE is split up further into two components, correctness aka accuracy and throughput aka theoretical efficiency.
correctness=effective_clicks/clicks=(clicks-wasted clicks)/clicks
throughput=3bv/effective_clicks

The (my ) idea behind throughput is to show how efficient your intended solve is, i.e. how efficient you 'd solve patterns or the board if your execution/accuracy were perfect.
IOE=correctness x throughput

   
Apr 10th 2008 at 01:14:31 PM
Name:  

damien

Best expert:  

Website Updated

Comments:  

Best new scores were Fritz (50), Serp (51), and Sankar and Pete both made sub60 for the first time.

   
Apr 10th 2008 at 01:59:21 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Bertie: Maybe it's (Clicks-wasted clicks)/Clicks?

In Clone I tried to enter that formula, because I wanted to see how many clicks I really waste (without the clicks that you lose on the squares surrounding an opening).

I've also wanted to use this formula to see how fast I was clicking unopened squares:
(Clicks - Wasted clicks) / Time
This would have been useful, because often a board with many openings gives a very low 3BVs, while you are clicking squares faster than other boards with less openings. 3BVs may include your efficiency to open openings, but it often isn't a constant indicator on how fast you are sweeping.

Too bad, clone doesn't include 'wasted clicks' as variable for customized formulas

   
Apr 10th 2008 at 01:35:15 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

What is the difference between IOEff and IOE!? I seem to be the only one in the dark on this subject.

@Gergely: I seem to have forgotten what they call Rooibos tea over there. Is it Rooibos or Redbush?

   
Apr 10th 2008 at 01:26:50 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Congrats to Aris IOE * 100% = accuracy
I think I will still play on Clone - in fact I see 3-10 next clicks, so faster showing squares dont change my speed alot
Btw, my 47,912NF on 161 is probably 1st in world sub14 NF RQP : 13,9605

   
Apr 9th 2008 at 07:01:57 PM
Name:  

Aris

Comments:  

correction:IOEff=0.551.dont know what it is but my real IOE record is 0.545 from 6/5/2007.didnt broke this one...

   
Apr 9th 2008 at 06:29:29 PM
Name:  

Aris

Best expert:  

65.32(clone)----->64.21(arbiter)

Comments:  

yesterday after that discussion about the speed of the clones i downloaded arbiter.after playing couple of hours i made 2*69 and 1*19(5th sub20)not smth special .but today in 3 hours playing i broke every record on exp with 3 games :
time:65.32--->64.21 on 151-3bv 2.38-3bv/s
3bv/s:2.764--->2.840
RQP:26.658--->24.742
ios:1.233--->1.246
all on 196-3bv in 70.02s
ioe:0.545--->0.551 on 142-3bv in 68s(although when i replay the video it says ioe:0.44 )
i love arbiter!!!!!!
ohhh....i also blasted 89/122 est.59s of course on arbiter

   
Apr 9th 2008 at 03:46:44 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

Another very tiring day, but this time our show went really well =). As usual I invite anybody who might read this and happens to be in Stockholm at Vasateatern on Tuesday for our last show (the show of Monday is already sold out )

On another note, the Viennasweeper icon is now also up (courtesy of Christoph). I guess for some of you the relation of the icon to the city of Vienna and to minesweeper is obvious... it's not that clear to me I must confess , might be 'cause I'm colorblind =P

   
Apr 9th 2008 at 01:47:09 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Congrats to Pete
Thanks for vids, now my 47NF on 161 is in my folder
I made 11x2 today, both on 36
When I wrote my previous post, code was made only with numbers

   
Apr 9th 2008 at 01:15:51 AM
Name:  

Ronny

Comments:  

@Pete: That shouldn't be too hard....your expert time is 21s faster than mine, but your int is 3 sec slower. So there should be plenty of room for improvement. If not, you might wanna try to flag less or not at all on intermediate.

   
Apr 8th 2008 at 10:54:25 PM
Name:  

Pete Freeman

Best expert:  

58.116

Comments:  

My new best expert time - 58.116 ! Video is in my folder - now to work on my inter times....

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Apr 8th 2008 at 07:21:11 PM
Name:  

Ryan Heise

Comments:  

KAmil's posts seem positive and light hearted to me It seems to me that he has a lot of love for Viennasweeper.

   


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