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Oct 17th 2007 at 06:04:27 PM
Name:  

Daniel Brim

Comments:  

@Kyle

Is this clone 0.97? Or something else?

   
Oct 17th 2007 at 03:23:40 PM
Name:  

Kyle Barry

Best expert:  

63.8--->62.9

Comments:  

i just finished a 62 but i got a runtime error "55" and it doesn't seem to have saved the video. It did save the record in my history. There is an unnamed file with todays date in the installation folder that seems to be the video but i can't open it. I've encountered this problem before but never on a record. Any remarks/ suggestions?

   
Oct 17th 2007 at 03:20:37 PM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

@Rogen: I am an Englishman. We have a rubbish manager and I hope Russia qualify, because we certainly don't deserve to. Good luck in the main tournament next year.

   
Oct 17th 2007 at 12:32:55 PM
Name:  

Rogen

Best expert:  

2-1 against England!

Comments:  

MUHAHAHAHAHHA!
4 REC code! REAL RECORD!

   
Oct 17th 2007 at 12:30:10 PM
Name:  

Arjádre

Best expert:  

56x2----->56x3

Best intermediate:  

AR 15x3

Comments:  

3BV=148
will upload later

   
Oct 17th 2007 at 11:27:23 AM
Name:  

Ian

Comments:  

Just got my first 48!! Now I have a complete interval from 46 to large number 48.48 on 136.
46x1, 47x1, 48x1, 49x3, 50x3, 51x6, 52x12, many others

Good luck to all

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Oct 17th 2007 at 10:34:55 AM
Name:  

KAmil Muranski

Comments:  

I tried Schu's 14s int.... 10,932s NF 1st try in upk.... Why I didnt got this board?

   
Oct 16th 2007 at 05:05:26 PM
Name:  

Arjádre

Best expert:  

56x2

Comments:  

I aimed for the right square. I had the plan in my head to go straight for the next two [correct] squares. Then......misclick.

est50 (could have possibly been a 49)
128/131

asjgkldhjldgasdglkahj

vid linked.

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Oct 16th 2007 at 05:01:45 PM
Name:  

Schu (Andrew McCauley)

Comments:  

@ Joni: I see. Well, I don't really bother with posting to minesweeper sites these days unless I head something special or I do something special

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Oct 16th 2007 at 01:25:00 PM
Name:  

Jason K.

Comments:  

@joni: Thanks for the kind words, I've been trying to play smarter lately and that game seemed like it was gonna be the reward! Oh well, back to the grind. Great job on the article btw, a really interesting read. And sorry to hear that you're burnt out, it just won't be as gratifying when I catch you

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Oct 16th 2007 at 10:56:07 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Where can I find Dennis Lütken's 4,2 Int NF 3bv/s? There is no vid in World Records and no vid in his folder

   
Oct 16th 2007 at 10:55:07 AM
Name:  

fritz löhr

Best expert:  

68

Comments:  

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
just lost a 65 on a guess
blasted at146/147 at 65.26 sec est65.70
vid will be in my folder after my next exp best

   
Oct 16th 2007 at 08:55:47 AM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

erm... must be a hemisphere thing, (or more probably my english) but i never manage to make myself understood with you , let's see if this is more clear: i was NOT referring to minesweeper . . .

   
Oct 16th 2007 at 07:10:51 AM
Name:  

fritz

Best expert:  

68

Comments:  

today on winmine 75=>74=>73=>72=>69.50
3rd sub70 game on 3BV=145@2.11
i seems as i could beat my 68 today

   
Oct 16th 2007 at 06:26:44 AM
Name:  

Schu (Andrew McCauley)

Comments:  

@ Joni: Thanks! Though I'm not really back on as such, just... random game that worked well

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Oct 15th 2007 at 11:34:31 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

@Jason: **** i really feel for you... that was a beautifully played game, on a dream board... what can i say? shi.t happens... (as i told you long time ago ) you have a huge potential, and you've backed that up with a solid gameplay improvement

well done schu , nice to hear you're on again

@Bertie: yes they do, in normal mode.
they do all the sorts of weird things in cheat mode, why should they care about limits? you can make a 1 3BV expert board in clone if you feel like it...

   
Oct 15th 2007 at 10:07:52 PM
Name:  

Schu (Andrew McCauley)

Best expert:  

52

Best intermediate:  

15 NF =>14NF

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

14.476 on a 32. Easiest board ever.

1-14-52 overall, 2-15-52 flagging, 1-14-56 NF. My NF scores are catching up to my F scores!

This backs up my theory that girls do not hinder minesweeper - just like my 52 did back in March. They help by providing inspiration.

Have been stuck on 15 since early last year. Now out of the blue this comes along! Yay!!

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Oct 15th 2007 at 04:02:56 PM
Name:  

Jason K.

Best expert:  

55-->****!

Comments:  

AAAAAAAARGH!!!!....vid linked.

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Oct 15th 2007 at 11:30:16 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

Just a Q: Does the 3bv limiting built into the clone and arbiter cover the >1 3bv required for beg? And if so, why is this limit deactivated in cheat mode (Arbiter .46)? I reported my two 1 3bv cheat mode games a while back. It can't be the mines jumping out the way cause Arbiter searches after the first click.

   
Oct 15th 2007 at 09:04:23 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

@gero:

Clone 2006 & 2007 and Arbiter 45 & 46 both only produce games above 30 and 100 (int, exp).

The only reason Clone 97 was allowed is so Chinese players can have their scores accepted while Rodrigo fixes a problem (Chinese clone games only work on Chinese Windows).

I no longer feel Clone 96 should be allowed...if you can't run .NET, then you can run Arbiter. I think Oli Scheer is the last person using it, because he 'retired' 2 years ago. IMC is meeting every Sunday, so I'm sure we will talk about it again.

   
Oct 15th 2007 at 07:52:02 AM
Name:  

Gero

Comments:  

Hm, I'm disappointed that nobody is interested in what I was writing some time ago. I can't imagine that everybody thinks it is correct that the accepted versions produce boards which aren't accepted.
I don't want a new discussion about 3BV limits, I just want a version where really ALL records are accepted.
But as long as such versions doesn't exist (or as long as accepted versions produce boards with 3bv<100 and <30), I think new records with these low 3bv must be accepted.
Once again: I don't want a 3bv discussion, I just vote for an accepted version where all boards fulfil the regulations.

   
Oct 15th 2007 at 07:05:47 AM
Name:  

manuel heider

Comments:  

@ kamil just to point it out :
beg: 5.8x nf
int: 4.16x nf
exp: 3.23x nf
is surely sup 13 ;-)
i will check the exact scores and upload my 5.8 3bv/s game on tuesday when im back home again ...
mfg

   
Oct 15th 2007 at 06:03:49 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Damien: u didnt upload my exp60
Now I must get 1 NF 3bv/s record to have sum sup13

   
Oct 14th 2007 at 03:10:22 PM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

Damien created a folder for me, my 57 is in there. Nearly an NF game, just one flag. 2.4 3BV/s on a 138 board.

   
Oct 14th 2007 at 01:50:12 PM
Name:  

manuel

Comments:  

@ kamil i know the problem u r describing, are u using internet explorer 7 ? the site wont work with it, so i use firefox and everything is fine ....

   
Oct 14th 2007 at 12:53:53 PM
Name:  

WP

Best expert:  

52

Comments:  

Just got another 52...a much better one this time.(not a record, 2nd best time) My hand was trembling at the end 'cos I had seen the timer at 42...didn't notice immediately that I had so little way to go, though.

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Oct 14th 2007 at 10:55:51 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

Site updated.

@Kamil: I didn't think you would read your email so fast...below is the link to your record.

@Kamil: the videos work fine. If you have trouble, go to
www.minesweeper.info/videoindex.php?dir=KamilMuranski

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Oct 14th 2007 at 09:56:01 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Can you ppl tell me why if I go to Profiles -> Videos, videos site doesnt open, http://www.minesweeper.info/ opens ( I have to open videos form link)??
And when I go to World Records, the list is empty, is it ok?

   
Oct 14th 2007 at 07:39:32 AM
Name:  

keihan asgari

Best expert:  

96

Best intermediate:  

23

Best beginner:  

3

Comments:  


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Oct 13th 2007 at 12:03:21 PM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

True, but I have had games lost on a guess as well. Had an est. 53 on a guess a while ago, but it was about 20 clicks from the end, so not as reliable as yours.

   
Oct 13th 2007 at 11:26:46 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Michael: nice, but all the time my 54 lost on a guess in last move is better than yours 57

   
Oct 13th 2007 at 11:10:55 AM
Name:  

Michael

Best expert:  

61.6 > 57.9

Comments:  

Looks like it wasn't so hard to keep up! The last game I was going to play, and I beat the minute barrier. It's on my other computer (minesweeper computer isn't online at the moment), I'll upload it tonight or tomorrow, if someone can tell me how to get a folder.

   
Oct 13th 2007 at 10:18:48 AM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

thank you all for your comments, and thanks a lot Curtis for your answers (i still can't figure out why i didn't ask you anything in the first place, it would have saved me quite a lot of head-scratching and made the whole thing neater... oh well, at least i've put the question marks in the right places : ) It's a relief to know that the 0.43 was actually taken down in May, and that it was the only version that contained the bug, i.e. my good old neighbour's 41 game can not be in any way connected to it though it remains quite insane
On the length: about half is just references to old posts and stuff, added there to be easily accessible, so that what i am writing doesn't hang in mid-air... it's sort of meant to be skipped After hearing Curtis' insights, I'd also encourage to skip the whole paragraph about the bug itself (which was thrown in there in the last moment, and is somewhat out of place) and the note on AreOut.
what remains is written in -- what i'd say is -- a flowing style...

@WP: my last ms game is dated sometime in mid-august, and it's been a looong time since i really enjoyed playing... I guess it's simply time to move on. I just felt I had a couple of words to say before I did so, and now i've said them...

For the record, I had a great time in Budapest, maybe also because playing ms accounted for about 3 hours of the whole week i stayed there . i regret not managing to put a couple of words together on that experience...

As always, grats to all the people who keep breaking records

   
Oct 13th 2007 at 08:36:12 AM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

Kamil, please stop beating your records, it's hard for me to keep up. Thanks.

   
Oct 13th 2007 at 02:04:03 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Best expert:  

61FL, 62NF -> 60,924 NF on 157

Comments:  

57 + 3 for last square

   
Oct 13th 2007 at 01:40:23 AM
Name:  

Serpenter_e

Best expert:  

57

Best intermediate:  

15

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

Int 32bvs: 3.850 -> 3.937

]8)

   
Oct 13th 2007 at 12:53:22 AM
Name:  

WP

Comments:  

Bertie, I think the main problem with the estimations is that clones aren't human. And that's a pretty hard problem to fix ;)

   
Oct 12th 2007 at 10:04:38 PM
Name:  

ES

Comments:  

Reading is funDUHmental.

   
Oct 12th 2007 at 07:25:59 PM
Name:  

AreOut

Comments:  

BERTIE BERTIE BERTIE BERTIE BERTIE BERTIE BERTIE BERTIE BERTIE BERTIE BERTIE BERTIE BERTIE BERTIE SUPERIOR SUPERIOR SUPERIOR SUPERIOR SUPERIOR SUPERIOR SUPERIOR SUPERIOR SUPERIOR SUPERIOR SUPERIOR SUPERIOR SUPERIOR SUPERIOR SUPERIOR SUPERIOR SUPERIOR INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT INTELLECT

   
Oct 12th 2007 at 02:56:47 PM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

Okay, while whe're on the subject of bugs, I would just like to point out something present in all the clones. Not one of them gives a satisfactory est time. Ok, I know this isn't really a life or death stat (and they are kinda protected from the word estimated ) but hell, if your gonna do something, you might's well do it right!! Here's an example which I'm sure you've all seen. Yesterday I lose an est 54.6X on the last click with only 1 3bv unsolved, but here's the thing: The timer reads 53.99. Here's my issue, should the est time also read 53.99? Because the est time is supposed to tell you what your time would've been hadn't you made the mistake. So if I hadn't made the mistake the same click that took me X amount of time would've taken me 0.5 secs longer at 3 clicks/s?

Another question. Do they give speed reading in the schools over there, because an article as lengthy as Joni's would take me a week to read!!! Ok, I know I'm at uni and all, but so far my superior intellect ( ) has kept me afloat, not reading.

   
Oct 12th 2007 at 12:02:01 PM
Name:  

daniel

Comments:  

i have to agree with you all: very good article, answers a lot of my unspoken questions. (e.g. which nicknames belong to which names;))

   
Oct 12th 2007 at 09:55:57 AM
Name:  

WP

Comments:  

I salute you, Joni, for all the research you've done for the article. Very informative.

I had forgotten how much of a warzone this is. I would like to be able to leave this community for good, but I can't stop playing, and playing alone is no fun :P Happy sweeping, everyone, and note the word "happy"!

   
Oct 12th 2007 at 07:45:34 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

News 2007 Feb 05: "Roman Gammel (Russia) scores 2nd fastest NF 3BVs on Int with 4,188 on an 88 board in 22.01, nearly breaks the world NF 3BVs sum (12.91, Dennis Lutken has 12.92)."
Ok, but Ive got 6,135 + 3,998 + 2,865 = 12,998. So Now sum NF is the best for me

   
Oct 12th 2007 at 06:50:07 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Manuel: Can u put your 5,8 beg NF to your folder? I got world record but I have never seen previous world record

   
Oct 12th 2007 at 01:13:38 AM
Name:  

AreOut

Comments:  

Grats Kamil&Serp, nice article joni :)

   
Oct 11th 2007 at 11:08:03 PM
Name:  

Serpenter_3

Comments:  

about three days ago: exp 3bvs record 3.00x -> 3.055

yesterday: exp time record 58 -> 57.646

]8)

   
Oct 11th 2007 at 09:59:52 PM
Name:  

random guy

Comments:  

Excellent article, Joni

   
Oct 11th 2007 at 04:54:51 PM
Name:  

Curtis

Comments:  

Haha, I love the IMC Times and unincluded features. I can help answer a few questions you had...

The Arbiter UPK bug is not in 0.42, so it was only confined to the 0.43 releases. As for when the versions were released, I checked my history found that 0.44 was available for download on Apr 28 2006, and the next day both 0.43 and 0.44 were available with the note "PS: there were reported some slowdowns on 0.44 replay engine, so i better reupload 0.43 version and release 0.45". By May 3rd only 0.43 was available, and on the 5th the message: "file temporarily unavailable. if you wnat to download arbiter 0.45 (latest debug version) please contact rilian (dmitriyis @@ [no\spam] gmail.com ). 0.45 public release coming in few days". I believe this message was there until 0.46 was released... 0.45 was never publicly available for download.

So yeah, the board loading bug is pretty terrible. Up until 0.96 the Clone had a similar bug: it allowed you to save boards before the game began. After 0.70, mine positions were randomized after the first click, but that had a bug as well...

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Oct 11th 2007 at 03:14:02 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

i doubt there is a single sweeper that has any doubts on you tommy... i just wanted to use your case to point out, how these things are just circumstantial... Say if you had lived in New Zealand or Ukraine, instead of Vienna, people would have formed a very different opinion on you...
The irony of it was: the guy whose behaviour is the most suspicious of them all, is the one who everyone knows is the most genuine...

   
Oct 11th 2007 at 03:10:05 PM
Name:  

manuel heider

Comments:  

grats kamil ! u finaly beat my 5.8x ;-)

yesterday i got my 2nd sub 50 onmy laptop: 49.7 on 181 ;-)

mfg

   
Oct 11th 2007 at 01:15:12 PM
Name:  

Thomas Kolar/Tommy

Comments:  

Wow, great work on the article Joni!!!

I never realized how close I was to be suspected of cheating. Now, to clarify why I had .43 streaks.
Jonis remark about me being an absent-minded person is, of course, absolutely correct. However, the main reason I used arbiter .43 at times is that, in the course of my career, I used not one copy of arbiter running on one machine - as far as I can recall, there are four systems on which I did a lot of sweeping: My old laptop (now broken), my new laptop (currently in use), my mothers laptop, and the computers at my school.
When I upgraded arbiter on one machine, I did not always upgrade it everywhere else. Particularily my mothers laptop, which I used to use a lot but do not now as I have my own machine - I never thought it would make sense to install a new version for the reason that I didnt expect to play many games there anyway. I did not hear about the UPK bug until very recently (I think the vienna tourny in fact), so I thought that the only difference would be a couple more options (and I don't care about much more than time/est time/3bv/3bvs, which rendered that irrelevant - should I have started to care about advanced stats, I would have been able to get .46 then). I knew about the clicking bug, but didn't take that too seriously then.
So, in short, me using arbiter 0.43 was a result of my laziness and ignorance (and, as joni put it, distractedness/disorganized ), and it will not happen again.

@Joni:
I remember detrusor checking a vid of mine for the clicking bug before he put it on be - I'm not sure if that was before or after the IMCs decision not to accept games where the clicking bug was used.

That was post number one, and has bedtime length. I'll probably post again, and longer, tomorrow - I just wanted to explain myself, as the story is extremely dubious, I was not aware of my case being that suspicious (though of course it makes absolute sense to me), and to give the answer regarding:

[quote]
I don't want to speculate on the reasons why Tommy has messed up the clones in this
way, I think only he can answer that question.
[/quote]

I hope that this is a satisfying answer for everyone, and I am happy to answer questions should they arise and should I be able to.

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Oct 11th 2007 at 09:35:52 AM
Name:  

KAmil Muranski

Best beginner:  

NF 5,37x -> 6,135!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Comments:  

3bv=19 OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WORLD RECORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

   
Oct 11th 2007 at 08:20:59 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Best expert:  

61 flag, 62 NF

Comments:  

119/121 est 54NF lost on a guess F*** F*** F*** F*** F*** F*** F*** F*** F*** F*** F*** F*** vid is in my folder

   
Oct 11th 2007 at 04:18:33 AM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

I just read joni's article yesterday actually. It's very good, definitely worth a look.

   
Oct 11th 2007 at 02:20:15 AM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

To those interested to now more about old Arbiter issues (and have a lot of time to waste on their hands) Damien uploaded an article on the minesweeper.info articles section.
A review by Elmar sais "it's a good read"
I apologize for not writing it in simpler english...

   
Oct 11th 2007 at 01:24:39 AM
Name:  

Gergely Nagy - IMC

Comments:  

The members of the IMC kindly request Jake Warner a.k.a. Levente Jakab to back up his high score claim with more evidence.
It is the community's interest to make the high score lists clean of suspicious scores so that the lists can be creditable and official. Therefore the "near-record" scores must be backed up with further evidence. Such is the case with Jake Warner's scores which were made on the Minesweeper Arbiter v0.43 which has a known bug. We'd like to receive videos from authorized versions until 17th October 2007 otherwise Jake's scores will be removed from the different lists.

International Minesweeper Committee
11th October 2007.

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Oct 10th 2007 at 02:57:43 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

@grzegorz: you are #55. the ranking at minesweeper.info will not be correct until Christmas

Vista minesweeper: Nathan Teixeira broke his record with a 60 this week in his first few games, and 16 finished games later got a 47 (on a 98 3bv board).

   
Oct 10th 2007 at 02:34:48 AM
Name:  

grzegorz

Best expert:  

52

Best intermediate:  

15

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

hey. what is going on with world ranking. i'm sure that i'm am not 38th player in the overall ranking. And where is Lukasz Malinowski

   
Oct 9th 2007 at 08:50:56 PM
Name:  

Katrina Cassar

Best expert:  

61

Best intermediate:  

16

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

I retire.

   
Oct 9th 2007 at 09:14:36 AM
Name:  

Gero

Comments:  

I really dont like the rule that 3BV<100 arent allowed, as long as versions are accepted for rankings, which produce such boards. When I'll get a new record on an accepted version then the score must be accepted. It's absolutly stupid to say, yes you play on an accepted version, but hey, you were unlucky and got your new highscore on the wrong board.
This doesn't make sense!
The same for Int.
Why should I play an accepted version if still scores aren't accepted? That's really nonsense.

   
Oct 9th 2007 at 07:09:05 AM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

@damien: I was only looking at the metanoodle rankings to be honest. I'm sure I was in 108th, then when I checked after the update (to see how far I'd slipped) I had moved up a place. Not that I'm complaining, naturally....just wondered what happened to the other guy.

   
Oct 9th 2007 at 02:50:06 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

@michael: the ranking on metanoodle is 552 people, the ranking at info is at 441, which is why your ranking may be different. The info ranking will completely replace the old one by Christmas as I finalise my new database.

@oliver: ouch! Manuel also lost an est 36 last month. Expert games <100 3bv are not allowed for the ranking anyways. Can you send me your 1.93s video? Thanks. Glad you still play...I noticed it's been 3 years since your expert record!

@bertie: on metanoodle the ranking was sorted by sum, expert, int, beg...if there is still a tie then the earliest set of scores won. (i noticed i messed up the programming...but there will be a new ranking for Christmas). On info (at the moment) people are ranked by integer sum and ties are broken by decimal sum....but this maybe will change!

   
Oct 8th 2007 at 12:47:30 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Oliver: Did u save this board? I want too try 88 exp board

   
Oct 8th 2007 at 05:47:57 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

Damien, I have a question. If two players have the same sum, what is then the deciding factor? As I have it, it is the lower exp time that determines it. I think something might've gone awry, because in my immediate ranking area (sum 70) there seems to be no system. But hey, at least I'm still in the top 50.

Do you guys know what I just realised is the most recognizable attribute of a minesweeper discussion? The unnaturally high number of 3-letter terms!!!! I mean it's all 3 letters: 3bv, RQP, IOS, IOE, sub this, sup that, top something, and we all know the infamous "mfg" from Manu every know and then.

Anyway, bye. ( , b-y-e!!)

   
Oct 8th 2007 at 03:37:05 AM
Name:  

Oliver Scheer

Comments:  

I just had an 88 3bv expert board on the 0.96 clone
i guess it's because my hard disk is broken, anyways i ****ed up searching for the last square at 36s so it doesn't really matter.

   
Oct 8th 2007 at 02:12:08 AM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

Have I just moved up the rankings without improving my times?

   
Oct 7th 2007 at 10:52:12 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

damien, i know you get lots of mail, maybe you missed mine on the Arbiter article on minesweeper.info... it's been a week or so...
and about the rankings, i did get a 13 on the 8th of July, posted here but didn't email, the vid is in my folder. I don't plan improving anything for a long time (ever?) so it'd be nice to move a second up...
To everybody: Keep the records coming , but never forget "it's just a game =P"

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Oct 7th 2007 at 03:58:40 PM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

updated the ranking

   
Oct 7th 2007 at 03:25:22 PM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

Good stuff Manu! Well done to all the other record-breakers aswell.

   
Oct 7th 2007 at 01:04:18 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Comments:  

I achieved two very good intermediate games yesterday, one of them being my third sup-5 3bv/s. One of them is a sub-20 record [linked], with a new high of 93 3bv board (at 4.93 3bv/s). The other video is a 22,30 on a 108 board @ 5.07 3bv/s, my second best speed. The video is in my profile.

Grats on hitting that sub-42, Manu!

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Oct 7th 2007 at 11:04:34 AM
Name:  

fritz

Best expert:  

69,848(clone)===>68,82(winmine)

Best intermediate:  

17 (clone)

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

not that big jump that i hoped it would be (sth close to 60) but i can't complain about a new record

   
Oct 7th 2007 at 09:33:11 AM
Name:  

fritz

Best expert:  

69

Comments:  

grats manu

just had my best time pn winmine: 72 on 147
had also mised a 62 on clone $&(%&%-ing guess @ 123/138@55sec

   
Oct 7th 2007 at 09:03:21 AM
Name:  

joniiiiiii

Comments:  

go go go manu!!!

   
Oct 7th 2007 at 06:58:44 AM
Name:  

Charles (aka Knolan)

Comments:  

God Bless Horst !

Great game here manuel ! You really deserve it and I really hope you'll sub40 before the end of the year !

   
Oct 7th 2007 at 05:51:10 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Nice Manu
Now my Exp NF average time is better than flag, but I think that I should learn to play flagging, I wont get 41 with no flags

   
Oct 7th 2007 at 03:05:20 AM
Name:  

manuel heider

Best expert:  

42x3 -> 41.696

Comments:  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Last game: 41.696sec - 3BV=132 - 3BV/s=3.244 - level=exp *flagging* - Ranks: 1/857 - IOE=0.684 - RQP=12.853

YEAH
vid in my folder ....
mfg

   
Oct 6th 2007 at 11:59:48 PM
Name:  

AreOut

Comments:  

Ian at least its sub20

   
Oct 6th 2007 at 09:05:00 PM
Name:  

Andrey Pavlov

Best expert:  

62

Comments:  

Just got my new exp record 62.912.
Nothing special to many of you but... I recaptured the video from the screen and, on the avi file, it is clearly seen that the timer reached 63 seconds and then jumped back to 62!!! (can't remember how to insert a file in here :( )

   
Oct 6th 2007 at 02:20:45 PM
Name:  

Ian

Comments:  

Nooooooooooooo...
/me last int game --> Est Time=19.95 3BV=94/94@4.95

3BV/s 4.85 -> 4.95 (Argh! Just missed sup-5!)
RQP 4.1x -> 4.032 (Argh! Just missed sub-4!)

I suppose I can't complain too much

Btw, also today, Exp 3BV/s 3.52 -> 3.673. I suppose that's bigger news And another fraction bites the dust - sup 11 thirds!

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Oct 6th 2007 at 07:04:45 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

Ahhh!!! I just found out that 2 people have the same birthday:

Damien Moore (07/03/1983)
Gregoire Duffez (07/03/1981)

   
Oct 5th 2007 at 11:14:18 AM
Name:  

daniel

Comments:  

19,64 (36) -> 16,46 on a very easy 32 board...nf
@WP: had my first 1 a few days ago...3.71->1,83
hope it'll go on in these steps

   
Oct 5th 2007 at 08:54:36 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

Dennis, Manu and Roman have sup 4, my record is 3,998, coll
also got Int NF 3,9,xx 3bv/s on the board with 8 openings

   
Oct 5th 2007 at 08:50:43 AM
Name:  

manuel heider

Comments:  

Last game: 46.828sec - 3BV=191 - 3BV/s=4.168 - level=exp *flagging* - Ranks: 38/3 - IOE=0.853 - RQP=11.235

finaly a sup4 sub 50 ;-)

video in my folder

@ damien : dennis still has the WR on in nf 3bv/s an i also have 2 or three sup 4 games, highscore is 4.16x

mfg

   
Oct 5th 2007 at 07:47:15 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

my previous Int NF 3bv/s was 3,965. I hoped to get sup4 next time. And what did I got? 3,998 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :( :( :(

   
Oct 5th 2007 at 07:37:30 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

@bertie: a good 3bv/s on int is over 4 in my opinion....although at least 6 people have sup5 (jake, oli, dion, damien, manu, zhang). NF 3.5 and above is excellent (only Roman I think has sup4)

   
Oct 5th 2007 at 06:49:54 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Best expert:  

61

Comments:  

my last 3 expert NF games:
145/149 est 59 lost on a guess
x-3/x est 60 mistake
163/163 60s + 4 to last square

   
Oct 5th 2007 at 04:53:59 AM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Bertie: your 2,03 isnt as bad as was my 2,02

   
Oct 5th 2007 at 04:12:59 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Comments:  

Good stuff Dion and WP!!!

@fritz: Well done. I hope that I will some day get mine!! I'm still trying to get over the false alarm when I went from 2.7X to 2.03!! Why not 1!! When that box popped up my first thought was a 1, of course.

@Daniel: The switch button thing is another interesting point. With the perfect player the loss of time in making the decision to use left, right or double click should be more than compensated for by the time gained in taking the fastest route, but none of us are perfect. The delay originates not from just having to click one button (implying that you put less stress on your brain to coordinate the clicks), but from not having to make uncomfortable higher order decisions. That is a simptome or our societal tendancy toward automated thinking and the like. But let's not get into that!!!

BTW. What's a good 3bv/s score on int? I got a 3.55 yesterday, but I can swear that I've gotten sup4 before (Flagging of course )

   
Oct 5th 2007 at 03:09:00 AM
Name:  

WP

Comments:  

I click on the smiley face too! Long live Mr Smiley Face!


Congrats, Fritz Löhr on getting that 1! It seems like a pretty long time since I heard of someone getting their first 1!

   
Oct 5th 2007 at 02:41:47 AM
Name:  

Dion Tiu

Comments:  

I still click the smiley face ^^
And my first click is usually within the middle because of that

   
Oct 4th 2007 at 11:31:45 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

hehe Michael i used to do that too when i played winmine and clone (I'm totally anti-F2 ) but since I switched to Arbiter i click somewhere around the mine counter instead. Since i start around the top-left corner, i think it's quite practical not to have to travel half of the board after a quick blast all the time... [I must have disabled that double click thing the first day i got arbiter, because i didn't even remember when you guys mentioned it... unfortunately, you can't disable the clicking on the upper part of the board... i think i would have done that too if i had had the chance, considering my clicking accuracy]
Btw i feel this is becoming a full-featured GET ARBITER testimonial , nice to see more and more people switching

   
Oct 4th 2007 at 03:58:42 PM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

Am I the only one who still clicks the yellow face?

   
Oct 4th 2007 at 02:57:09 PM
Name:  

daniel

Comments:  

for me another important point playing nf is that you dont have to switch the mouse buttons...i find it easier to have only one to press...
i think the most important feature on arbiter is the one with starting a new game by double click...playing clone or winmine it annoys me to start the new game by f2. perhaps because i got to know that quite early and it's become a habit. now i just like arbiter more than clone whose outfits kind of strange...dont now;)

   
Oct 4th 2007 at 01:12:41 PM
Name:  

fritz löhr

Best expert:  

69

Best intermediate:  

17

Best beginner:  

2,32====>1,79

Comments:  

1,79sec on 3BV=3
my first 1 sec beginner game ever
after 5 days of mostly sweeping beginner and 2 lost est. sub2 games it feels so great to reach my goal on that level.
btw. it also kept my series alive: since may this year it never took me longer than 14 days to get 1 sec better (it's been 13 days since the last record).

   
Oct 4th 2007 at 09:07:50 AM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

I turned restart on double click off, too confusing and I need to have my left finger on F2 or I can't play anyways...

   
Oct 4th 2007 at 08:42:17 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

i thought that was a bug! i was playing custom, and the last thing you want on 212 mines on 24x30 is to start a new game at the end!

i recently converted to Minesweeper X....it is exactly like Winmine, cheatproof and no options at all! It is basically Winmine combined with the Recorder (although the history file is more basic).

Btw...I bet most of you didn't know the Recorder saves all games won or lost, and you can export your stats into excel?

   
Oct 4th 2007 at 05:08:59 AM
Name:  

Michael

Comments:  

The double-click restart was quite confusing for me when I tried arbiter...I didn't know it existed, and kept wondering why it was starting a new game for me I don't want to risk losing a game due to an accidental extra click.

   
Oct 4th 2007 at 04:35:02 AM
Name:  

Bertie

Best expert:  

3.09 --> 3.16

Comments:  

Yesterday I got a grand total of three sub60 games: 59x2 & 57x1. I get sub60 on a regular basis, but the sub50 just doesn't wanna budge. As far as I can tell my technique's biggest flaw is overclicking my left-mouse button. I'm trying to fix it, but it's hard. I finally got my first 3bv/s record on exp in like two years. (the 3.08 -> 3.09 doesn't really count )

@Daniel: You raise a serious question on style. I think the question of which is better, flagging or NF, has been settled for a long time now seeing that the world record on exp has been a flagging record for the last hundred years or so. And I myself think that rogen`s int time would've been better if he'd played proper flagging (no offence ) Some of the things I can point out on the traditional way NF is played: It is hazardous to your health because of the high click/s rate usually (and unnecessarily) employed. This rate isn't really that much slower than for intance the rate of oh say Dion, but Dion can do more with each click because each click is made with a purpose. Usually the high clicks/s rate is produced by basically potuling your game with as many clicks as your hand can produce. This is like running your cars engine at highest revs at all times and occasionally releasing the clutch to actually move. This is of course not indicative of a true NF game, where no flags are placed and no click polution is present. NF does have one large advantage though (if done right of course) namely that it trains the player to more easily identify where openings will appear. As Rogen mentioned before, the edge waste effect of hidden openings has greater prominence in NF games because no work is done as byproduct of double clicking, thus making you more astute to finding these opinings as a "survival tool". I myself don't play much NF because I focus on my technique as a whole.

Flagging of course holds it's own dangers for instance overflagging. Which I hear you are quite fond of. To be quite honest with you, at the level you are right now timewise (playing for sub90), It is to be expected that you still overflag when flagging. Not that I'm saying anything about your play, because the proper use of flags comes with experience. So you style of flagging will most probably become one of less and less flag wastage as time passes. Anyway, keep at it.

@the clone issue. I'm am now officially an Arbiter convert. Even though none of my time records are on it ) The clone really went soar after 0.97 for me. Too much options and not enough zing. The thing I like most on Arbiter is the doubleclick restart thing. It keeps you flowing between games because most of us click fast enough to register a double click anyway.

Ok, nuf from me.

   
Oct 4th 2007 at 01:45:52 AM
Name:  

Christoph

Comments:  

@daniel: Personally I think flagging is the faster style overall. But that's my oppinion and the truth for you might be very different.
IMC stands for International Minesweeper Committee. It's main duty it to catch cheaters (at least that's what it was made for). More details about who is the IMC can be found on minesweeper.cc - this site is about to be built up during the current year and I hope, that everything will be ready for new year.
At the moment it's mainly used for the active ranking.

   
Oct 3rd 2007 at 11:12:33 PM
Name:  

KAmil

Comments:  

@Daniel: my flag is 61 and NF 62, but my next record will be probably NF NF is better for low 3bv boards, flagging is better for 3bv/s records,

   


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