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Sep 23rd 2006 at 07:47:54 AM
Name:  

Ian

Comments:  

Love it Rodrigo!!! ^_^ ^_^

I think it's a bit risky putting the cycle lengths in the article though Anyone with porgramming experience could cheat on those levels very easily.

The additional board cycle values will help no end with my theory testing though, thank you indeed . After 5 iterations of my first "formula", my estimate for the cycle value is 0.01% off However I still lack a good way to determine this estimate for an Expert board (I'm still in for loop territory )

Anyways, great job on it!!

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Sep 23rd 2006 at 06:56:47 AM
Name:  

Rodrigo

Comments:  

I finished writting an article with the results of my 2004 research about board cycles. It's on the articles section of Detrusor's site. The link is below.

I think those who are interested about this subject will like it a lot. And you'll see that I wrote it just like a real scientific paper. It's my first attempt to give Minesweeper the seriousness it deserves. Just tell me what you think.

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Sep 23rd 2006 at 02:10:19 AM
Name:  

Schu

Comments:  

Some, but not enough "feature" fixes, the "rilian click" of left click, middle click, middle release, left release still is wrong.

Please fix.

   
Sep 22nd 2006 at 11:07:42 PM
Name:  

AreOut

Comments:  

"there are some feature fixes "

Why would someone fix features?!

   
Sep 22nd 2006 at 08:16:32 PM
Name:  

Daniel Brim

Best expert:  

AR 56

Best intermediate:  

3.82 3bv/s --> 4.05 3bv/s

Comments:  

Earlier this afternoon I got a 56 on a 133... second best time.

Just now I got this on int! I wasn't in form, easy board, Last Square Search, and yet, still came in at sup4!

   
Sep 22nd 2006 at 06:12:28 PM
Name:  

Lois

Comments:  

What is good IOS?

   
Sep 22nd 2006 at 02:17:54 PM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

after i was the first to sup7 on beg, dion beat me 24h later with a better sup7. this evening i finally got 7.143, so dion: wherever you are...you can eat my dust!


   
Sep 22nd 2006 at 01:55:54 PM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Best expert:  

69

Best intermediate:  

18

Comments:  

Uploaded Arbiter 0.46.2 patch
just unpack it into Arbiter folder

there are some feature fixes

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Sep 22nd 2006 at 12:07:46 PM
Name:  

Axon

Best expert:  

73x3

Best intermediate:  

18x3

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

@Ian: my two best int results are both 18.04
First was @3BV 32, NF
Second was @3BV 36, Flagging
When I did that first time, I broke my previous 21.07. When I did that second time, my next best result was only 20.43! Now I have 7 sub20's and great plans to break 18.04

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Sep 21st 2006 at 11:09:19 PM
Name:  

Daniel Brim

Best expert:  

AR 58

Best intermediate:  

AR 16

Comments:  

Another sub60 today, brings me up to three for the AR, seven overall. This one was a LSS 56 though, but still ties my 3bv max for a sub60 (154) and was my 5th best RQP as well (I believe, it happened about 8 hours ago).

   
Sep 21st 2006 at 10:44:20 PM
Name:  

Nikolaj

Comments:  

@joni: that´s why I really like to play slightly drunk I found out, when I try to be fast, I´m stiff and thus playing crappy games

@thomas: I worked on my sweeping style a lot, this is my only chance to break minute barrier because my hand and clicking is slow. 27 flags is my record though I think 30-40 flags is probably the best option.

   
Sep 21st 2006 at 11:13:29 AM
Name:  

Ian

Best intermediate:  

17.99 --> 17.99 x2

Comments:  

Hehe, dw Thomas, looks like it could take a while Although this 17.99 was on a 45

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Sep 21st 2006 at 10:37:10 AM
Name:  

Thomas

Comments:  

@serpenter:
Haha, guess its time for a jump anyway, I havent jumped since mid-20s :D
Nice on the 69 schu, you just tied my NF record. Ill have to go look what my hundredths were :D
Nice @Ian, dont pass me :D
Schön gemacht, chris ;) Weiter so ;)
Nice on the 64 nikolaj! I thought my average of probably 45 unflagged was good :P
And welcome to the club marcus!
Sorry if I just left someone out :D
I got another 59 a couple of days ago, bringing my OMB count up to 5.

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Sep 21st 2006 at 09:59:20 AM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Comments:  

@muss: http://bash.org/?88352

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Sep 21st 2006 at 07:23:57 AM
Name:  

Schu (Andrew McCauley)

Best expert:  

NF: 72.86 ===> 69.815 on a 145

Comments:  

Finally I can ignore that 72 NF no-numbers game on minesweeper X . Also my 2nd best RQP.

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Sep 21st 2006 at 05:35:13 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

nice to see you here!

the numbers tell you how many mines it is touching. if you can decide where a mine is you put a flag on it. if you are trying to solve a situation and are not sure, you can put a questionmark until you decide (just to warn you to be careful).

if you flag all the mines touching a number, pressing both buttons together on the number clears the remaining space.

   
Sep 21st 2006 at 04:58:12 AM
Name:  

muss

Comments:  

dude how do u get the thing i dont get it at all..lol please tell me wat the numbers and "?" are for.

   
Sep 21st 2006 at 12:29:13 AM
Name:  

Chris Nain

Comments:  

@Ryan: For sure, my hand hurts every day. ^^

   
Sep 20th 2006 at 09:34:36 PM
Name:  

Serpenter_E

Best intermediate:  

15

Comments:  

@Thomas : My previous record on int was 17.04 too, and then I got a 15

   
Sep 20th 2006 at 08:18:44 PM
Name:  

Marcus West

Best expert:  

73.67

Best intermediate:  

22.18

Best beginner:  

3.26

Comments:  

OHHHHH YEA!
Today is the day. Skimmed a second off my int to bring my total down to 99.11. Oh happy day!

Today... Today i am bonafied

Long time coming,
Later all

   
Sep 20th 2006 at 07:01:52 PM
Name:  

Daniel Brim

Comments:  

Well, I don't post blasts unless they're sufficiently painful.

This one was.

Exp Est 59 181/192, 3.28 3bv/s 18.1 RQP

   
Sep 20th 2006 at 03:36:27 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

@Nikolaj I wish I was as relaxed as you while playing. Nice one

@Ian looks like you're on a roll

about your IOS record. On beginner IOS looks like is not a very significant index (not for fast times at least). It's very high because your time is close to 2. If it was exactly 2, it would have been infinite, and for "times" (i.e. minesweeper times, starting at 1 ) smaller than 2 it would have been negative. I know you're good at maths, so you'll understand why when you see the formula .

I was trying to make some calculations of IOS today, but the results were different from what I expected, or from what my Clone games showed. I found out I was using the wrong formula (the reciprocal of IOS). I looked at this sites dictionary, at detrusors "lexicon" (on the french version of the site), both agreed to the SAME WRONG formula . The funny thing is that even the Clone, though it calculates it right, in it's help file where it explains what IOS is, shows the same wrong formula. . Don't know who's copying from who here, or maybe it's the RQP formula that has misled all of them... who knows

Anyways, I quote the exact formula from a Roman's post a couple of weeks ago
IOS=log(3BV)/log(time-1)

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Sep 20th 2006 at 01:51:32 PM
Name:  

Ian

Best intermediate:  

18 --> 17 (Winmine)

Comments:  

Oh yeah!!!! TODAY ROCKS!!! I LOVE TODAY!!! And conveniently in time for the AR 17.99s on a 39 board (it had a huge opening in the middle so was easy to clear).

Now all I need is OMB

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Sep 20th 2006 at 11:25:38 AM
Name:  

Ryan Ool

Best expert:  

90 (9/20/06)

Best intermediate:  

25 (9/20/06)

Best beginner:  

2 (9/20/06)

Comments:  

Anyone elses hand cramp up after playing awhile

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Sep 20th 2006 at 11:03:21 AM
Name:  

Ian

Best beginner:  

3 --> 2.237 (Clone)

Comments:  

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSS!!!! That is SUCH A RELIEF!!! YEEEHAAAA!!!

Also, my record 3BV/s on Beg today has gone 3.672 --> 3.695 --> 3.768 --> 3.908

But back to my record, got it on a board with 3BV=4, so RQP sub-1 at long last and IOS 6.5 (up from 2.something ) Video attached.

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Sep 20th 2006 at 07:35:50 AM
Name:  

Chris Nain

Best expert:  

94 -> 93 (19.09.06)

Best intermediate:  

29 (18.09.06)

Best beginner:  

4 (19.06.06)

Comments:  

Mühsam ernährt sich das Eichhörnchen.

   
Sep 20th 2006 at 01:30:39 AM
Name:  

Nikolaj

Best expert:  

65,99=>64,96

Comments:  

my 2nd sub 70 only 27 flags used and it´s my first "sober" record in about 3 months

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Sep 19th 2006 at 10:10:54 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Best beginner:  

11+ 3bv/s UPK

Comments:  

Played some UPK beginner today on record boards set by other people... got 3.046 on a 23 board (Dion's record board) so far after about 15 minutes of trying my best, this is the best result I can get so far. I hope I can sub-3 it soon, but this is as best as I can do for the moment.

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Sep 19th 2006 at 03:01:50 PM
Name:  

Todd Calhoun

Best intermediate:  

NF 19.648 ->16.197, 3BV/s 2.892 ->3.093

Comments:  

NF Hopsing 16.197 on a 3BV=47 3BV/s=3.093

   
Sep 19th 2006 at 07:57:59 AM
Name:  

Thomas

Best intermediate:  

17*4-->17*5

Comments:  

@Christoph:
At that rate, I think waiting till I have 12 doesnt seem that bad :D
Interestingly, when I set arbiter to give me only sub40 boards, I got like 3 16s in a row followed by a 14. So I guess the potential to improve is there, all I have to do is get a good board and play it right :D Problem is, I dont always expect getting a good board. I guess my new motto is "Treat every board as if it were just above 3bv limits" :D
Problem is actually managing to do that :D

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Sep 18th 2006 at 10:27:41 PM
Name:  

Todd Calhoun

Best expert:  

58.786 -> 57.187

Best intermediate:  

13.37

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

slowly but surely

   
Sep 18th 2006 at 09:48:38 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Comments:  

Video for the game described below:

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Sep 18th 2006 at 09:47:54 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Best intermediate:  

4.02 -> 4.01 RQP

Comments:  

16.54 on a 64 board @ 4.11 3bv/s. Way to scratch at the sub-4 RQP barrier some more.

   
Sep 18th 2006 at 08:22:55 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Best beginner:  

6.95 3bv/s

Comments:  

My beginner record. Note how clicks 14 and 15 are only about 3 miliseconds apart, I have no clue how.

I also posted a video of my 1-second beginner on the forums to prove I have nine total. My goals for next year are to get a 10th 1-second game as well as a sup-7.

I hope I can stop my addiction of playing this darn game so much -.-

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Sep 18th 2006 at 08:18:49 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Comments:  

14.39 on a 40 board as promised:

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Sep 18th 2006 at 01:47:57 PM
Name:  

Daniel Brim

Comments:  

@Eric

Winmine bug.

   
Sep 18th 2006 at 12:49:51 PM
Name:  

Eric

Best expert:  

79

Best intermediate:  

32

Best beginner:  

3

Comments:  

I just got that 79, before that my best was 112. Has anyone ever seen where the timer gets stuck for a little bit? I had to take a call in the middle of the round and it seems like it was stuck on 68 seconds for a while. I've never seen this before but then again I don't watch the clock either. Any input? Otherwise I just beat the crap out of my old score out of the blue.

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Sep 18th 2006 at 10:55:04 AM
Name:  

Drew DeHaven

Best expert:  

82

Best intermediate:  

25

Best beginner:  

5

Comments:  

woohoo

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Sep 18th 2006 at 10:48:16 AM
Name:  

Schu

Best expert:  

NF clone: 76=>73.828

Comments:  

Of my NF games, my 2nd best time (I have a 72 on minesweeper X), 2nd best 3BV/s, best RQP, best clone game and best game *with* numbers (minesweeper X game was played with a skin that doesn't have numbers, only colours).

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Sep 17th 2006 at 05:03:00 PM
Name:  

Chris Nain

Best expert:  

98 -> 94 (18.9.)

Best intermediate:  

34 -> 29 (18.9.)

Best beginner:  

4

Comments:  

Oh Germany I mean

http://www.cshelp.net/gfx/mine.jpg

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Sep 17th 2006 at 04:55:48 PM
Name:  

Chris Nain

Best expert:  

98 -> 94 (18.9.)

Best intermediate:  

34 -> 29 (18.9.)

Best beginner:  

4

Comments:  

18.9. Good morning!
Please update my Country Ranking, thanks a lot. ^^

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Sep 17th 2006 at 01:36:13 PM
Name:  

James Tobey - USA/NE

Best expert:  

87 (9/16/06)

Best intermediate:  

24 (9/17/06)

Best beginner:  

2 (9/05/06)

Comments:  

http://www.imagebucket.net/bucket/6507/beginner2.JPG
http://www.imagebucket.net/bucket/is.php?i=6508&img=intermediate24..jpg
http://www.imagebucket.net/bucket/6509/expert87.JPG

I just got a new computer, since my old one crashed. I was afraid I wouldn't be able to recover my pics of my previous bests but I matched my best in beginner, and beat my bests in both expert and intermediate in the past day.

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Sep 17th 2006 at 01:05:49 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Best beginner:  

1 (x9)

Comments:  

1.79 on a 2 board, this breaks the tie between Iguana and me (he has eight 1-second games).

^^v

Damien, do you mind reposting the video? Link doesn't work.

   
Sep 17th 2006 at 11:54:16 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

after breaking sup5 yesterday (barely...5.007, 19 on 94) i got a much more respectable 5.244 3bv/s on an 87 board in 17 sec.

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Sep 17th 2006 at 11:18:15 AM
Name:  

Rodrigo

Comments:  

@Joni: Nice to see you're also interested about this subject! It's really interesting.

@James C: Yes, I included XP. I captured boards in all versions of Microsoft Minesweeper. The dreamboard exists in all of them, as well as its shifts.

@Ian: hehe, as Joni said, it was a little difficult to realise what you were referring to in your post. But I think we can compare our theories and see if they complement themselves.

@All: This discussion motivated me to write an article with the results of my 2004 research. I'll put the link here as soon as I finish it!

   
Sep 17th 2006 at 11:13:52 AM
Name:  

Christoph

Comments:  

@Thomas: This 17 had to show up 12 times for me before I broke it

   
Sep 17th 2006 at 08:51:08 AM
Name:  

Thomas

Best intermediate:  

17,12-->17,04 17*4

Comments:  

/me int game --> Time: 17,04 «» Est Time: 17,04 «» 3BV: 45 (45) «» 3BV/s: 2,80 «» Ranks: 1 / 111 of 470 / 88,29% «» IOE: 0,64 «» CL/S: 4,36 «» Openings: 6 / 6 «» Path: 2223 «» ThroughPut: 0,88 «» Correctness: 0,72 «» ios rank: 30 «» rqp rank: 15 «» EstFlagged: 10 «» EstUnflagged: 30 :@

Way to sub17 :P

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Sep 16th 2006 at 11:19:40 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Best beginner:  

6.70 -> 6.95

Comments:  

Holy crap, I broke my 3bv/s record on beginner earlier than I thought I would. Landed down a really nice easy board, 1.31 IOE. I will post the video later, the forums are currently unable to transfer attachments.

I believe this is the fourth best 3bv/s for beginner compared to other player records, no?

   
Sep 16th 2006 at 10:50:39 AM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Best intermediate:  

AR 15 (x10) -> 14

Comments:  

Whoo, finally broke my terrible AR intermediate syndrome! 14.39 on a 40 board, I'll post it later.

   
Sep 15th 2006 at 09:59:54 PM
Name:  

Curtis

Comments:  

I've also studied the workings of the original, and have the complete mine randomization algorithm. I can confirm that the recently shown 11 3BV board could not have been generated on Microsoft Minesweeper.

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Sep 15th 2006 at 05:38:37 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Best intermediate:  

4.38 -> 4.44

Comments:  

The most insane game I have had in a while. 17.89 on a 75 board, while my previous best sub-20 record is on a 76 board. RQP of 4.02, I am VERY nearing the sub-4 barrier.

@Damien: Grats on finally getting that sup-5! That will be one of the goals of my minesweeper career as well.

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Sep 15th 2006 at 05:08:19 PM
Name:  

Daniel Brim

Best expert:  

185 - 53

Best intermediate:  

50 - 14x2

Best beginner:  

6 - 1

Comments:  

Today is the 1st anniversary of my first GB post, when I had these scores. Let's hope next year is as productive as this one was

   
Sep 15th 2006 at 02:33:50 PM
Name:  

Ian

Comments:  

Hehe, don't worry about it Joni

Regarding my theory, it looks like I am right: the mean number of random numbers required to generate an Intermediate board (twice the average number of mines needed as there is one for each row and column) is 2^20 ÷ the Int magic number (in case anyone is wondering when I keep saying magic number, I mean the number of times F2 has to be pressed before the EXACT same board appears, not just a shift). This is probably significant in that it may enable a guess to be made at the magic number for Expert boards (I hope no-one's found it already? )

And no more maths for a while, I promise

What are the remaining 3 Damien? I take it sub-40 is one of them

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Sep 15th 2006 at 01:05:10 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

nice one damien!! was the first of your completed goals that exp 141 mines density board?

@Ian: how come I don't understand a single word of what you're trying to say

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Sep 15th 2006 at 11:32:17 AM
Name:  

Damien

Comments:  

Finally! Sup5 with a 5.007 3bvs on Int.
19.77 on a 94. Vid linked. I made 5 goals for before I retire last year...I have now finished 2 of them

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Sep 15th 2006 at 10:49:35 AM
Name:  

Ian

Comments:  

Ah, of course! Thanks for the extra explanation Rod Perhaps I will dedicate myself to the mathematics of Minesweeper (OMB is so d+amn annoying!), I've looked at probabilities of Int boards using up 80, 82, 84, 86, etc. random numbers and how this relates to the "magic number" (is this public knowledge or is it considered too dangerous? imo it is) and 2^20. Hopefully my theory is correct Is your database and collected results up for download anywhere?

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Sep 15th 2006 at 07:16:28 AM
Name:  

James C

Comments:  

@Rodrigo: Did you include XP in your experimentation? Since I have loaded XP on my computer, the dreamboard and familiar shifts of the 6 board don't seem to come around nearly as often as they did for 2000 and 98. It seems like the XP version has many more boards than the older version. Am I wrong? Of course, I don't play intermediate on XP nearly as much as I did on 2000 or 98, but in the past year [on XP] I have only gotten 1 dreamboard as opposed to about 10 in the previous year.

   
Sep 15th 2006 at 06:05:09 AM
Name:  

Thomas

Comments:  

I think I might be due for a record again, I got a couple of very good games in the last couple of days, a fourth sub60 (a 57), a third 17 (,95), and I just got a NF 73 on a 171 board. I'm also getting a lot of sub60 estimates, so I guess its well possible that I improve my expert score fairly soon.

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Sep 15th 2006 at 05:17:37 AM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

Hi Rodrigo,

Though I'm not actively participating, I am following this discussion with a lot of interest. I might be the only one, but there may be others also. If you think that most of the people have heard about it in the past and its only me and Ian (who are relatively new to this guestbook) and If you decide to continue it by mail, please add a CC to my mail adress too... thanks!

I'm amazed by the amount of work/research/passion/energy people put at this game, and apparently it's not only mathematicians...

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Sep 14th 2006 at 07:14:53 PM
Name:  

Rodrigo

Comments:  

@Ian: One question at a time!

- How do you know that the initial boards are all combinations of cycle boards? I guess maybe all boards can be expressed as combinations in this way?
I discovered that by experimentation, after collecting all the boards of the two cycles. And yes, all of the boards displayed can be expressed as a combination of two boards of the cycle.

- Are the 2 boards which share the mines the next consecutive boards in the board sequence?
Exactly. While not inside the cycle, if a board is generated by 10 mines of board A and 30 of board B, the next one will be generated by the remaining 10 of B and the first 30 of C. This leads to the fact that the 40 mines of each board of the cycle can be "numbered", or "ordered".

- And is there a conclusive proof of this based on the PRNG formula or is it based on evidence?
My approach to this stuff was exactly like in the scientific method: I first analyzed the behavior or Microsoft Minesweeper. Then, based of this behavior and on my own knowledge about PRNG, I built a kind of "theory" to explain it. Then I began testing and counter-testing the theory, and until now, everything went well with it. I believe it is conclusive.

I can explain you better on an e-mail, or else, I would flood the GB with a lot of boring stuff! My address is below.

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Sep 14th 2006 at 05:52:17 PM
Name:  

Billie Harland

Best expert:  

81

Best intermediate:  

12

Best beginner:  

3

Comments:  

How does that 1 second beginner happen? I've ne'er seen it. My main focus is intermediate. I've had 12x1 and 14x2 on intermed but never whipped 3 on beginner. (I know my expert is lacking but it takes sooo much patience)

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Sep 14th 2006 at 05:29:23 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Comments:  

Video attachment:

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Sep 14th 2006 at 05:28:18 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Best intermediate:  

4.34 -> 4.38

Comments:  

New Intermediate 3bv/s Record! The IOE is pretty nice too, .88 at 4.93 clicks per second

   
Sep 14th 2006 at 01:53:24 PM
Name:  

Ian

Comments:  

I'm impressed with the amount of work you must have done to get those results, but I'm still confused How do you know that the initial boards are all combinations of cycle boards? I guess maybe all boards can be expressed as combinations in this way? Anyways, then I follow the rest up until "let's suppose that again, 2 mines are common. Then the next board will be formed by 6/34." Are the 2 boards which share the mines the next consecutive boards in the board sequence? And is there a conclusive proof of this based on the PRNG formula or is it based on evidence?

Please excuse my noobishness

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Sep 14th 2006 at 11:32:17 AM
Name:  

Rodrigo

Comments:  

@Ian: Sure. But this initial set of boards that "converge" into the cycle are always formed by mines taken from two consecutive boards of the cycle. Let's say that a "converging" board is formed by 10 mines from a board and 30 from the next. The following board will be formed by, let's say, 5 mines from a board and 35 from the next. Then, eventually, one board will be formed by all 40 mines of a single board, thus entering the infinite cycle. There are usually no more than 40 or 50 boards before entering the cycle.

The convergency is determined by the following: let's say that the 10 mines from a board and the 30 from the next share 2 mines in common. So, the game will skip those and actually pick 32 (not 30) from the next. The next time a board is generated, it will be formed by 8/32. Let's supose that again, 2 mines are common. Then the next board will be formed by 6/34. And so on, until 0/40 is reached, entering the cycle. I hope it's not too difficult to understand, I can explain better in an e-mail, just drop me one.

Concerning the 11 3BV board, and according to the above, the worst situation is 20/20. And I didn't find any board in the cycle matching more than 10 or 15 mines with the 11 3BV board. So, this is an impossible situation, and most probably, the board is fake.

I can do an even more precise search later. But I don't think it will change too much.

   
Sep 14th 2006 at 11:12:25 AM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Comments:  

Ian: that was done in 2004 by Rod. all the Beg and Int boards (and all the 7 shifts of them) are collected into the database, so now we can just make a search in the database for similar boards and tell if it is fake or not.

In the beginning of 2005 i also collected 6,600,000 Exp boards but did not find shifts.
QYQ3

   
Sep 14th 2006 at 11:00:32 AM
Name:  

Ian

Comments:  

Nice one Jason!

@Rodrigo: Not every board is in a board cycle, there are loads of boards that happen but if one board in a cycle is generated then it's stuck So the board could still be legit, the only way to truly test it would be to seed the winmine PRNG with all possible values and record all the possible boards. Which is too hard

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Sep 13th 2006 at 02:50:23 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

Well done Jason, I know how it feels to break that 70. I was stuck there for a while, with 70x3 and 71x3 (three 70s and three 71s in this guesbook's jargon) and I was euforic when I finally did it. Do you have a video of that? it would be nice to see your style...

Keep up the good work, and we might get to that minute barrier sooner or later

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Sep 12th 2006 at 08:11:56 PM
Name:  

Jason

Best intermediate:  

23.76

Best beginner:  

3.89

Comments:  

This is my first time posting on the guestbook but I had to tell someone.
Clone 70.29--->67.01 on 144
Took me nearly 11 months to go from sub-80 to sub-70 (after going sub-90 to sub-80 in 3 months) but I finally got there! Look out minute barrier!!

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Sep 12th 2006 at 06:50:36 PM
Name:  

Rodrigo

Comments:  

Ok, I found my old researches (back from 2004 ) about the cycles on Microsoft Minesweeper... I searched the 11 3BV int board, and didn't find it. I also didn't find any board with more than, let's say, 15 mines matching. I can search more, but I am almost completely sure that we are facing a... fake board!

   
Sep 12th 2006 at 05:32:23 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Best intermediate:  

4.40 RQP

Comments:  

15.93 on a 54 board @ 3.61 3bv/s:

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Sep 12th 2006 at 01:24:25 PM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

hey Gergely,

I was just searching for some more information about the new EU members joining the Schengen. It looks like Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia and Poland INTEND to fulfill the requirements to get fully in the Schengen by October 2007. In my previous search a couple of months ago, I had found an (apparently old) article in an Hungarian site that talked about January 2007, so I had high hopes... unfortunately I was a little too optimistic. I would've really liked to visit the city... but the chances of making it to the tourney this year drop drastically ... I might still decide to apply for a visa and come, or maybe I might come for the next tournament, who knows.

In case anybody is interested i quote "The following nationalities do not need visas for visits to Hungary of up to 90 days.

Andorra, Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bolivia, Bulgaria, Brazil, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Costa Rica, Croatia, Czech Republic, Cyprus, Denmark, Ecuador, El Salvador, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Guatemala, Honduras, Iceland, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Japan, Korea, Latvia, Liechtenstein, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Malta, Mexico, Monaco, Netherlands, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Norway, Panama, Poland, Portugal, Romania, San Marino, Singapore, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, United Kingdom, Uruguay, USA, Vatican City and Venezuela

Nationals of countries not mentioned above will need a visa to visit Hungary"

BTW If you're interested in coming to Albania, Hungarians don't need a Visa if they intend to stay for a period of less than 30 days, very few people need one actually

@Christoph: the scheduled date/s for the Vienna tournament look very inconvenient to me...

vc: CQYQ

   
Sep 12th 2006 at 12:09:35 PM
Name:  

Ian

Best intermediate:  

Winmine 21 --> Winmine 20.98

Comments:  

Yay!!! Also, the game before, 3BV/s was 3.28 (I think it's my best, can't remember ) And this was on a 61, so it was sup-3 as well! Yayayayayay!

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Sep 12th 2006 at 08:28:34 AM
Name:  

Thomas

Comments:  

@Gergely:
Ill come if possible any way, my mother just said I could come if my grades were good. And Ill definetly try to get good grades this semester, so Ill probably be there!
VC=SGSG (Speaking of good grades: Sehr Gut Sehr Gut?) (Sehr Gut (1) is the equivalent of an A here)

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Sep 12th 2006 at 06:15:51 AM
Name:  

Christoph

Comments:  

@Gergely: I'll come to the tourny 99.9%.
@all: I'm looking forward to meet you there

@Roman: 99% there will be a 2007 vienna tourny and 85% it will take place on the 17th and/or 18th of August at the usual location.

   
Sep 12th 2006 at 05:48:06 AM
Name:  

Roman Gammel

Comments:  

@Gergely: Nice to hear that you're able to organize another international minesweeper meeting. But probably I won't come this time, I already had two nice visits to Budapest, it's quite expensive for me to travel and I want to visit other european cities, so it doesn't look very interesting for me to visit the same city three times, even if there is minesweeper meeting. With great pleasure I'll participate in minesweeper tournament if it would take place somewhere else - Paris (?Rouen?) or Berlin for example. For sure I want to visit Vienna and participate in tourney, but two previous visits were canceled because of work.

   
Sep 12th 2006 at 05:40:03 AM
Name:  

Gergely

Comments:  

I created a poll instead
link:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/minesweeper-addicts/surveys?id=2328694
and below

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Sep 12th 2006 at 05:31:20 AM
Name:  

Elmar

Best expert:  

Barca: 51-50.20

Comments:  

My goal for the extended weekend was to break the spanish expert record. I'm 79% sure I did it.
Also got 3x53, so I think I'm almost back to where I was before I left for Barcelona. Pattern recognition seems a bit better, mouse handling still worse...
@Arjadre: I doubt that board was created by a mine shift. Even with 25 3bv, I still would've been insanely easy and therefore would be known if it was part of the regular cycle. [
But nice theory.
@Rogen: Nice!
I also gave NF another try and got really close to sup3ing a couple of times.

   
Sep 12th 2006 at 05:29:24 AM
Name:  

Gergely

Comments:  

Hello Everyone!
I'm so proud to announce the THIRD Budapest Minesweeper Meeting!
Unofficial date of the event is:

24th February 2007

Please take into consideration that it will be confirmed only in mid-november, so one week plus or minus is possible.
If you would like to participate but have difficulties about the date then please mail me
Thanks and Good Luck!

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Sep 12th 2006 at 02:42:36 AM
Name:  

slowhandluke

Best expert:  

176

Best intermediate:  

46

Best beginner:  

6

Comments:  

how do you get the times so low. it seems impossible to do beginner 9x9 in 1 second.whats the secret

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Sep 11th 2006 at 02:49:46 AM
Name:  

Dennis Lütken

Comments:  

@Hopsing: The fake Hopsing Potter picture I made? :-P Don't think I still have it but yes, perhaps Detrusor does! ;o)

   
Sep 11th 2006 at 01:00:29 AM
Name:  

Hopsing

Comments:  

message@detrusor: detru, i need that harry potter fake pic of mine. the one with the huge glasses . ..
cant find it, i suppose its still on your trash page on the web but i havent got a link
be so kind and send the pic or the link to mrhopsing@gmx.net
greets

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Sep 10th 2006 at 08:28:24 PM
Name:  

Arjádre

Comments:  

I am angry.
I was hit #666664, 666665, 666667, and 666668 to the site.
Something similar happened when I attempted to be #654321.
Someone doesn't like me.

   
Sep 10th 2006 at 08:07:47 PM
Name:  

Thy CowMan

Comments:  

O OGHnt y = "I got a"
And my NFing int isn't 3,55, it's 3,35 :P

VC=Just :) (yay a word!)

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Sep 10th 2006 at 08:06:02 PM
Name:  

Thy CowMan

Comments:  

Ohhhh, so this is where the 11 3bv board is...

I got a 3,55 NFing on it and a 2,59 when I flagged all mines then double clicked through the board. O OGHnt y 4,72 first time I tried it without any unfair prior knowledge. Vids posted here:

http://planete-demineur.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=931

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Sep 10th 2006 at 04:32:42 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Best intermediate:  

Sub-20: 76 3bv

Comments:  

A new 3bv max of sub-20 for me: 19.69 on a 76 board at 4.06 3bv/s :)

This will be my last serious sweeping session for a while, because I really have to start worrying about school. I've been neglecting my grades a bit (which have been dropping slightly), and instead have been playing minesweeper about four hours daily. So I will probably keep a once-per-week basis of only about two hours of play, I need to reserve the rest of the time to studying. I've said this before in the past, but I am serious this time.

Good luck to everyone who are avidly chasing their desired records and goals!

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Sep 10th 2006 at 02:07:29 PM
Name:  

Jake

Comments:  

after about 20 tries (including 3.00, 3.06, 3.01) I got 2.99, but that was with hitting the opening deliberately on the first click. If I pre-flagged next to the 6, then hit the opening, I got 2.91.

I think if I got the board randomly, I'd have gotten maybe a 4 or 5.

   
Sep 10th 2006 at 01:52:02 PM
Name:  

Ian

Best expert:  

62.99 --> 62.11

Comments:  

Yeehaa!!!!! Knocked another .88 second off on a 130 board
Getting to OMB slowly

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Sep 10th 2006 at 10:05:06 AM
Name:  

Arjádre

Comments:  

The board has an OBV of 27.9
The best I've been able to do (without much practice) is 3.509... It is possible to solve the 11 3BV board in 9 clicks- one flag, one chord, and 7 left clicks, lol

   
Sep 10th 2006 at 09:47:29 AM
Name:  

Banzhaf

Comments:  

haha Jake, ("Stop socialising, travelling, masturbating, etc... just play it for 10 hours straight every day.") I also try to follow the maxim "free your mind and KNOW the mines"
or to say it with the words of the nameless in Hero:
the true nature of sword martial arts/minesweeper discloses only by meditation and practice
(freely and surely faultily translated from german and memory)

   
Sep 10th 2006 at 08:56:58 AM
Name:  

manuel

Comments:  

clone 2006
just with the reveal squares always and edit mines options
btw i tried two more times and got 2.64 ;-)
mfg

   
Sep 10th 2006 at 07:22:41 AM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

@manuel: pardon my ignorance, how did you generate that board, and where do you play it (clone or arbiter)?

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Sep 10th 2006 at 06:31:32 AM
Name:  

joni

Comments:  

@Alex: what the other guys are trying to say is that the board you got is just "a little" too easy to be valid for the rankings.

But who cares... You just got a 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and no one is taking it away from you. There were no errors, nothing was wrong... just a random minesweeper game

@Arjadre, I like your theory

   
Sep 10th 2006 at 06:21:43 AM
Name:  

Ian

Comments:  

Wow, that's cool! *is jealous*

Btw, I've discovered that on Intermediate there are in fact 8 board shifts on at least one of the board cycles, rather than 4, I don't know if this is already known but I thought it was interesting

And I am of course, not using this knowledge to cheat I don't know the magic number on expert anyway

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Sep 10th 2006 at 04:26:38 AM
Name:  

Dennis Lütken

Comments:  

Nice theory about the 11 3bv board. My theory would be that the board is just a fake board. It's so easy to fake a screenshot really. ;o) But if it did indeed happen, then holy Moses!

   
Sep 10th 2006 at 04:06:39 AM
Name:  

manuel heider

Comments:  

hey people, what is the best u can get on this 11 3bv board ?
i tried a few times, my best is 2,86 for now

   
Sep 10th 2006 at 02:11:48 AM
Name:  

Arjádre

Best expert:  

=>.913 IOE NF

Comments:  

.913 vid: http://www.planete-demineur.com/phpBB2/download.php?id=2070
1.000 int vid: http://www.planete-demineur.com/phpBB2/download.php?id=2071

@Alex: well done I think the reason the 11 3bv (I counted 11, not 10) board has not appeared before is because of a mine shift to the upper left corner. My idea of what the board originally looked like (3bv=25!!!!) is posted at the thread linked below.

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Sep 10th 2006 at 01:40:47 AM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Best intermediate:  

19x3 -> 18,80

Comments:  

that was my 1st today's game :P

(11:31) * Rilian last int game --> Time=18,79 3BV=41 3BV/s=2,30 Ranks=1 / 2371 of 8498 / 86,05% CL/S=3,42 Op=4 :-)

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Sep 10th 2006 at 12:29:30 AM
Name:  

Roman Gammel

Comments:  

@Alex: Well done! You've got 3BV 10, where did you find it??? Anyway this result won't be included to the rankings, there is 3BV limit 30

   
Sep 9th 2006 at 11:18:56 PM
Name:  

Alex

Best intermediate:  

7

Comments:  

Hello, before I post I would like to say please do not ignore this post, I have an actual question other than just a made up score.

I am wondering, how could I have just gotten 7 in intermediate, when my previous record was a 27? The game seemed incredibly easy and I wasn't really trying very hard. I looked at the timer at the end of the game, and it said 7. Please, could someone tell me what is wrong? I know that I am not good enough to get a 7 in intermediate...

A screenshot is available, click the "website" button on the bottom of my post.

Thanks.

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