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May 9th 2006 at 01:50:33 AM
Name:  

Schroo

Comments:  

@ Thomas: Only if your OBV for that game is higher than 170 (average OBV). When OBV>170, BAT<170, BAT>time.

   
May 9th 2006 at 12:50:51 AM
Name:  

Thomas

Comments:  

Hm, @Schroo:
Does that mean that my 60 would have a BAT that is actually lower than the real time?
Congrats to all record breakers!

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May 9th 2006 at 12:50:34 AM
Name:  

Thomas

Comments:  

Hm, @Schroo:
Does that mean that my 60 would have a BAT that is actually lower than the real time?

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May 8th 2006 at 11:28:01 PM
Name:  

Levente

Best intermediate:  

3bv/s: 4.25->4.31

Comments:  

* Badgers last int game --> Est Time=23,53 3BV=97 / 97 3BV/s=4,30 RQP=5,46 Clicks=148 / 6,56 Throughput=1,19 * Correctness=0,54 = Efficiency=0,65 Openings=3 / 3 Path=3576

note the lack of sub14 qualities.
P=5,¡

   
May 8th 2006 at 07:14:00 PM
Name:  

James C

Comments:  

I agree with you. OBV/S estimates, from the sound of it, should be way more accurate. At that time, however, 3bv was the only way there was to measure a board. The simple math of the 3bv/s/s did come out pretty close on some estimates based on my own games, though.

   
May 8th 2006 at 06:17:31 PM
Name:  

Schroo

Comments:  

@James C: Thanks! I think an estimated time based on OBV/s is much better than on 3BV though, because OBV/s is pertty independant of 3BV or even OBV.

Also, these days, I ignore 3BV/s, RQP, IOS and even OBV/s and just use BAT.

@arjadre: It's meant to be based on just finished games! Otherwise, average BAT would be probably higher than average time, and I want those two to be as close to equal as possible.

   
May 8th 2006 at 03:31:27 PM
Name:  

Daniel Brim

Best expert:  

3.01 3bv/s-->3.09 3bv/s

Comments:  

Whooo... 70 on a 214.

   
May 8th 2006 at 01:26:05 PM
Name:  

Daniel Brim

Comments:  

@Arj: I do not. But then again, I have the 2nd or 3rd highest nontrivial exp 3bv average

   
May 8th 2006 at 01:18:32 PM
Name:  

Arjádre

Comments:  

@Schroo: nice concept however, using the average 3bvs from the clone ranking probably gives a skewed perception of average 3bv because many people (or am I the only one ) intentionally blast high-3bv boards in search of lower 3bv ones, and the clone ranking only shows finished games...

about the 8s discussion- I think I might have seen an 8 or two on clone int... I've seen plenty on exp and finished two, I think...

   
May 8th 2006 at 01:17:33 PM
Name:  

manuel heider

Comments:  

@arj
i experienced the same problem, when i startet clone 2006 all my settings were reseted (auto record options and the counter settings)
and that it shows that the expression is not ok when i used the solved3bv.
cya

   
May 8th 2006 at 01:07:39 PM
Name:  

Robert Benditz

Comments:  

I've finished 2 expert games with a click on an 8.

   
May 8th 2006 at 01:06:10 PM
Name:  

Arjádre

Comments:  

@Daniel, Dane, Levente, "Lucky":

Last night I did a system restore because for some reason autorecord seemed to self-destruct- It seemed like something happened with the variable Solved3BV (or maybe it was 3BVSolved) that made the expressions suddenly "not okay"... When I restored the computer back to a few days after downloading the clone, all of my settings disappeared, as did my entire history since downloading the new clone. Luckily, I still have the vids...

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May 8th 2006 at 12:27:17 PM
Name:  

Daniel Brim

Comments:  

@Dane: Almost there!

   
May 8th 2006 at 11:42:55 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

@dane: nice job!

@manuel: can you please email me, so i can contact you and update your scores? thanks.

   
May 8th 2006 at 11:42:06 AM
Name:  

Dane

Best expert:  

83.57 ==> 81.74 !!!

Comments:  

sorry for posting again
on a 140 3bv
okay, this is just rediculous!
sum 108 -> 106 !!!

   
May 8th 2006 at 11:04:16 AM
Name:  

Dane

Best expert:  

24.14 ==> 22.05 !!

Comments:  

and it was a really easy board, but I'm fine with that
sum 110 -> 108

   
May 8th 2006 at 10:39:46 AM
Name:  

James C

Comments:  

I like the BAT idea, Schroo. I like the OBV concept a little as well, but in general, I don't care that much about any of that stuff anyway. I don't know if you remember or not, but when Roman first posted his IOS formula, I talked about a 3bv/s/s index that I had been dealing with. It's the inverse of RQP, and no one seemed to like the idea, so it went away. However, my original intention was to find a simple way to estimate potential times based on a given 3bv. So it'll be nice to see if the BAT idea catches on. Right now, with all the indices we have, the only useful purpose seems to be sucking bandwidth from this site. (Which I am also doing just by browsing, or so Hopsing seems to think.) When I finish a crappy game, I would like to have a good idea of what I could have potentially done, especially if that could be guesstimated by using past performance data.

   
May 8th 2006 at 08:18:20 AM
Name:  

manuel heider

Best expert:  

49 -> 49 x 2

Comments:  

sry for posting again...
119 3bv board
well, it was easy but im not in a good shape today...

   
May 8th 2006 at 07:22:19 AM
Name:  

manuel heider

Comments:  

i have 3 screenshots of 8s on exp (minesweeper clone 0.96) between 09.05.05 and 10.06.05 , so about 3 eigths in one month. after that i stopped to save screenies because i thaugt that its just normal to get an 8 on a exp board

   
May 8th 2006 at 05:27:28 AM
Name:  

Schroo can't type

Comments:  

*kinda*, not jinda

   
May 8th 2006 at 05:26:30 AM
Name:  

Schroo

Best expert:  

BAT:62

Comments:  

Hehe, jinda.

I just prefer a performance rating based on time rather than one that is based somewhere from 40% to 110% of click rate.

Obviously it would never replace time, but I was hoping in the future it might replace the whole heap of things like OBV/s, RQP, IOS, 3BV/s......

just give it a try. I know many people only look at time, so if you're not one of those people, give it a try

   
May 8th 2006 at 04:33:57 AM
Name:  

AreOut

Comments:  

And I thought I was in numbers

   
May 8th 2006 at 04:00:56 AM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

schroo, you're crazy

   
May 8th 2006 at 02:58:07 AM
Name:  

Schroo

Comments:  

Another cool idea for OBV:

My new value is called BAT: Board adjusted time

The idea is it gives you a time that you would have gotten on an "average" board given your performance in OBV/s.

This is inversely proportional to OBV. If you get an exactly average OBV, your time will be equal to your BAT. Less that average OBV means BAT>time, and more than average OBV means time>BAT.

For average OBV (and remember this is meant to be equal to average 3BV) I'm using the averages from clone ranking:
15, 62.5, 170 (deleting some aberrent results).

So, here is the formula:

1+((time-1)*((3-2.5*Level+0.5*Level^2)*(15/(.07*numbers+.43*3BV+2.27*openings)) + (-3+4*Level-Level^2)*(62.5/(.2*numbers+.32*3BV+1.38*openings)) + (1-1.5*Level+0.5*Level^2)*(170/(.38*numbers+.23*3BV+.99*openings)))/(Solved3BV/3BV))

Basically, this gives you what time you *deserved* to get an an average board.

As an example, dions and olis 39s get 45 and 47 BAT respectively.

lol, code is 3BVR!!!

   
May 7th 2006 at 10:12:11 PM
Name:  

Levente

Best expert:  

AR 51

Best intermediate:  

14x9 (AR 14x2 or 3 or something)

Comments:  

even got an RQP record, and my first RQP < 3bv/s int game. But still... for the love of all that is good... why did I have to LC a 13 on a 55 an hour ago???

* Badgers last int game --> Est Time=14,81 3BV=54 / 54 3BV/s=3,90 RQP=3,79 Clicks=90 / 6,51 Throughput=0,93 * Correctness=0,64 = Efficiency=0,60 Openings=3 / 3 Path=2156

whoo RQP record

   
May 7th 2006 at 03:32:05 PM
Name:  

Daniel Brim

Best intermediate:  

3.56 3bv/s-->3.60 3bv/s

Comments:  

28 on a 100... trying to sub16

   
May 7th 2006 at 01:29:54 PM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Best intermediate:  

3,38 bv/s --> 3,39 bv/s on 86 bv board

Comments:  

(23:27) * Fury-161|away last int game --> Time=26,36 Est Time=26,36 3BV=86 (86) 3BV/s=3,39 Ranks=63 / 1 of 255 / 87,84% CL/S=4,14 IOE=0,81 Op=4 op_done=4 Corr=0,72 truput=1,13 badg/s=0,74 arj/s=0,59 path=2695 IOR=1,33 rankIOS=1
(23:28) Fury-161|away 3BV/S RECORD!@

finally a record! way to sub20 soon

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May 7th 2006 at 01:25:02 PM
Name:  

Thomas

Comments:  

@Damien:
Alexander sent me the vid, it was done on the clone. And I think I might have gotten a winmine 8 once, but neither do I have a screenshot nor do I have a real memory of the game.
I remember getting 4 7ens on one day once (1 on int) and a few days later another 4 (i think they were 4, not quite sure).

@DB: Never on int

Welcome @ ShiLei!

And thanks @ Arj for congrats!

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May 7th 2006 at 12:48:05 PM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Comments:  

@duphphez: do the same, please

   
May 7th 2006 at 12:26:31 PM
Name:  

Grégoire Duffez

Comments:  

@Arjádre: yes it's normal. Actually, now players get their penalty automatically (so they have their previous times) unless they submit again.

@Sillyan: just shut up, and go away

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May 7th 2006 at 07:55:37 AM
Name:  

AreOut

Comments:  

Well, Damien, thats just the usual consequence of pseudo randomness.

   
May 7th 2006 at 05:22:19 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

can people please be clear what version these 8's on int occured? 3x3 mine patches and 8's on int seem to be more common on the clones....there has never been a 3x3 on winmine int, and only 2 reported cases (in 17 years!) on expert. i have not seen 8 on int in my 7 year career, but there have been at least 4 cases reported on cloned versions this year already. i believe dennis has the only known case of an 8 on winmine int. (?)

   
May 7th 2006 at 04:33:41 AM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

channel is up again

   
May 7th 2006 at 04:23:33 AM
Name:  

manuel heider

Comments:  

i've seen at least 5 or 6 8s on intbut never more than one 8 or eone 7 on the same board ;-)

   
May 7th 2006 at 02:54:01 AM
Name:  

Schroo

Comments:  

here is another OBV-related formula:

Optimised IOE:

((solved3BV/3BV)*(3-2.5*Level+0.5*Level^2)*(.07*numbers+.43*3BV+2.27*openings) + (-3+4*Level-Level^2)*(.2*numbers+.32*3BV+1.38*openings) + (1-1.5*Level+0.5*Level^2)*(.38*numbers+.23*3BV+.99*openings))/(Lclicks+Rclicks+Dclicks)

   
May 7th 2006 at 12:43:56 AM
Name:  

ShiLei

Best expert:  

70s

Best intermediate:  

19s

Best beginner:  

1s

Comments:  

I'm ShiLei from China, HeBei province.
My English name is Jesse.
I have sent you my mail with 3 level Video Evidence.

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May 6th 2006 at 09:44:11 PM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Comments:  

#minesweeper channel formed

use such lines in your mIRC clients:

/s -m irc.rus.net #minesweeper
/s -m irc.initialized.org #minesweeper

you may download mIRC at mirc.com

there are a lot of servers in rusnet so you mya find one that is located in your country and use it to make faster connection

   
May 6th 2006 at 09:17:06 PM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Comments:  

Seems like irc.initialized.org IRC server is down...

i've formed a temporary #minesweeper irc channel at
irc.rus.net (please use google to find other servers to connect), port 6667 channel #minesweeper

see ya

   
May 6th 2006 at 08:17:25 PM
Name:  

Daniel Brim

Best intermediate:  

16x3-->16x4

Comments:  

This one on a 48, my 16.74 still holds

@Kolar: Don't pass me. Please?

   
May 6th 2006 at 08:00:21 PM
Name:  

Arjádre

Comments:  

I think I've seen an 8 or two on int...not quite sure
@Thomas: very nice!

   
May 6th 2006 at 07:40:16 PM
Name:  

Dane

Best intermediate:  

26.11 => 24.14 !!!

Comments:  

on a 40
two records in a half hour!
sum 113->112->110

   
May 6th 2006 at 07:40:03 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Best expert:  

75.59 & 2.30 3bv/s

Best beginner:  

5.21 (on a 6 board)

Comments:  

Pretty good day today, I brought three of my records up! Expert 75.83 -> 75.59 and 2.29 -> 2.30 3bv/s. Very slight improvements, but they are improvements nonetheless!! Also, beginner 4.95 -> 5.21 on a 6 board (2.15 seconds)!

   
May 6th 2006 at 07:31:34 PM
Name:  

Dennis Lütken

Comments:  

I've only had one 8 on intermediate (and I've played a lot!!!) and that was even on my very first click on a board! Quite nice. I've heard that's happened to people on expert but never tried it myself until it happened on intermediate!

   
May 6th 2006 at 07:11:37 PM
Name:  

Dane

Best expert:  

84.47 ==> 83.57!!

Comments:  

3bv 167

   
May 6th 2006 at 02:01:34 PM
Name:  

Levente

Comments:  

I've seen both 8 and 7 before on int... also 8 on beg, 7 on beg, and three 7s on exp. Have never seen two 8s. Seen several "9"s on exp and a "12" once (4x3 block)... never a 9 or the like on int as far as I remember.

and Thomas: very nice!!!! Now don't pass me on bestever in the next week please ;-)

   
May 6th 2006 at 11:46:14 AM
Name:  

Thomas Kolar

Comments:  

Well, an eight alone wouldnt be that extremely unusual, but an eight and a seven together on one board, thats a different story and highly unusual.
I think everyone would like to see that, put in on the web somewhere and attach it by copying the url into the website field. alternatively, if you dont have webspace, simply post it in a minesweeper forum, then copy the download links url and paste it into the website field. Hope that was coherent!

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May 6th 2006 at 11:45:48 AM
Name:  

Elmar

Best expert:  

46

Best intermediate:  

12

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

@Alex: I got a "9" (meaning 3x3 mines) on int yesterday. I dont think I ever got an 8 though.

   
May 6th 2006 at 11:43:23 AM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Comments:  

I had several 8's on int boards and a lot of 7's. For expert i think that 8 and 2x7 is like a record..

   
May 6th 2006 at 11:38:56 AM
Name:  

Alexander Morgan

Comments:  

Just got a bizarre board. Maybe it has happened to people before, but never to me. I got an intermediate board with a 7 and an 8 on it!!! I completed it in 21.11 secs and it had a 3bv of 41. I can send to vid to people if the want. Also I would like to know if anyone else has encountered an 8 on intermediate.

   
May 6th 2006 at 11:21:32 AM
Name:  

Thomas Kolar

Best expert:  

65,70-->60,42!!!!!!!

Comments:  

To think that a few days ago i was at 70...



Vid attached!

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May 6th 2006 at 11:21:06 AM
Name:  

Thomas Kolar

Best expert:  

65,70-->60,42!!!!!!!

Comments:  

To think that a few days ago i was at 70...



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May 6th 2006 at 09:23:51 AM
Name:  

Schroo

Comments:  

opening**** = openings hit minus the space in between. LOL!!

   
May 6th 2006 at 09:03:24 AM
Name:  

Schroo

Comments:  

Sorry about the flood, but I thought some people might like an explanation:

Knolan: i just copy paste your formula to an index of clone
Knolan: but i quite don't understand it ^^
Schroo: I'll try to explain it step by step
Schroo: formula for OBV is this:
Schroo 3-2.5*Level+0.5*Level^2)*(.07*numbers+.43*3BV+2.27*openings) + (-3+4*Level-Level^2)*(.2*numbers+.32*3BV+1.38*openings) + (1-1.5*Level+0.5*Level^2)*(.38*numbers+.23*3BV+.99*openings)
Schroo 3-2.5*Level+0.5*Level^2) makes 1 when level is beginner, otherwise 0
Schroo -3+4*Level-Level^2) make 1 when level is intermediate, otherwise 0
Schroo: the other one make 1 for expert
Schroo: you see, OBV requires seperate formulae for each level.
Schroo: because they are different styles.
Knolan: yeah and u work with numbers and openings ... seems u study ur formula a lot ^^
Schroo: yeah, a bit of statistical regression.
Knolan: but is there a correlation between 3bv and obv ?
Schroo: yes: average 3bv = average OBV
Schroo: that was deliberate
Knolan: so for example i've done a 57 sec on a 122 3bv (2.14 3bv/s) ... the obv is 151 and the obv/s is 2.65 ..
Knolan: what can i conclude ?
Schroo: I find that OBV/s is a great way of grading performance
Schroo: you know how good times have crap 3bv/s?
Schroo: not so for OBV/s
Schroo: OBV/s records should be just as easy to get on any 3bv (or OBV)
Knolan: yeah that's why i'm interested in ur formula cause i always make a link between my 3bv/s and the numbers of opening to see if i was efficient or not
Knolan: but something i dont understand well ... if a map has 200 3bv and 160 obv .. does it mean it's an easy 200 ?
Schroo: kind of....
Schroo: OBV for expert ranges from about 140 to 200.
Schroo: so not an "easy" 200, but maybe a "quick" 200.
Knolan: yeah that's what i mean by easy lol ^^
Knolan: to make it clear it's a stat who tells u if u can be proud or ashamed of your last game that's it ?
Schroo: Basically, yes.
Knolan: and is it possible to have a "obvsolved" also ?
Schroo: yes.
Schroo: just replace openings with opening****
Schroo: and 3bv with 3bv solved
Schroo: and numbers with numbersshown
Schroo: but I prefer to just multiply it by (solved3BV/3BV)
Schroo: OBV estimates tend to be bad.
Knolan: lol k ^^ that's a quite interesting formula thx for ur explanations
Schroo: That's OK!

Slightly edited to remove some chatting...

   
May 6th 2006 at 07:50:31 AM
Name:  

Schroo

Comments:  

oops I meant use THIS formula:

(solved3BV/3BV)*((3-2.5*Level+0.5*Level^2)*(.07*numbers+.43*3BV+2.27*openings) + (-3+4*Level-Level^2)*(.2*numbers+.32*3BV+1.38*openings) + (1-1.5*Level+0.5*Level^2)*(.38*numbers+.23*3BV+.99*openings))/(time-1)

and call it OBV/s

   
May 6th 2006 at 07:47:19 AM
Name:  

Schroo

Comments:  

A perfect example of why OBV is useful is linked. Remember, average OBV= average 3BV.

Use this formula:

http://www.planete-demineur.com/phpBB2/download.php?id=1512

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May 6th 2006 at 07:06:12 AM
Name:  

Schroo

Comments:  

Quoting Dmitriy: "Building the efficiency formula for Clone that has no efficiency and islands counters is pretty useless. in this way it is just another "index of speed" "

Not quite. Islands is included, but not fully tested. Rodrigo has been coding the islands index and it will most likely been in the next clone version. Then, when enough people submit histories to the clone rankings, I can make a better estimation, not just the one I have now based on Detrusors data.

So you can go for 3 seperate counters for each level with a relatively untested but probably usedful "islands" component, or a single counter containing all 3 formulas that doesn't have "islands". First one is arbiter, second is clone. Up to you.

In the end it won't matter, clone will have islands and arbiter will have level=1,2,3, so both will work with OBV soon enough.

   
May 6th 2006 at 06:32:22 AM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Comments:  

Yeah! enhancing your idea, think we may have average hi-score tables for N top games (25 by default) with F, NF and average (F+NF)/2 sub-tables (pages)

   
May 6th 2006 at 06:18:37 AM
Name:  

Dennis Lütken

Comments:  

@Dmitriy: Sure you can include my name. I think the average thing is a nice idea. I love averages, which is why the top-25 average lists in the clone rankings are among my favorite rankings!

   
May 6th 2006 at 06:10:39 AM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Comments:  

Good that was your idea , Dennis. i will include your name in the arbiter thanks list if you don't mind. also, what do you think about the average history table that will show records like (flagging_time+nf_time)/2 ?

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May 6th 2006 at 04:33:07 AM
Name:  

Dennis Lütken

Comments:  

Looks like somebody else liked my idea of seperate rankings for classic, flagging and NF...

   
May 6th 2006 at 02:35:58 AM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Comments:  

@Levente: yeah, history loading speed is now improved a lot and i am going to make it even faster :D . 045_7 version will have combined(classic), flagging, no-flagging and average records sections of local hi-scores tables

   
May 6th 2006 at 02:16:08 AM
Name:  

Arjádre

Comments:  

@Detrusor: when I went to submit my times for the new AR period, my scores from the last one still showed, rather than being 0. Just thought you might like to know...

   
May 6th 2006 at 02:02:05 AM
Name:  

AreOut

Comments:  

Erm, just wanna post 3000th entry

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May 5th 2006 at 11:20:53 PM
Name:  

Levente

Best expert:  

AR 51

Best intermediate:  

AR 14

Comments:  

in 8 games (2 int, 6 exp)... good enough to avoid the penalty. I went 62->51 on this AR after getting 19 and 14 in two int games. Whoo!!!

oh and Rilian: arbiter 045_6 seems to work just fine - dunno if the history is any faster since my history file right now is a total of 8 files. Gimme a link to 045_7!!!

   
May 5th 2006 at 09:25:30 PM
Name:  

Levente

Best intermediate:  

14.23->14.21

Comments:  

on a 43.

14x8.

Gonna be one of *those* ARs, I can feel it in my bones.

   
May 5th 2006 at 09:15:48 PM
Name:  

Jkow

Comments:  

59.90 --> 56.07 on a 143 3bv

2.96 --> 3.27 on a 214 3bv

Not a bad day I guess.

   
May 5th 2006 at 08:38:34 PM
Name:  

Arjádre

Best expert:  

2.614 according to clone 2006

Best intermediate:  

3.136

Best beginner:  

4.31=>4.444 3bv/s

Comments:  

5.95 on a 22 NF
Very WTFish- wild clicking
Tonight my total 3bvs went from 10.01 to 10.19

   
May 5th 2006 at 08:01:01 PM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Best intermediate:  

20x13 ========================> 20x14

Comments:  

(05:59) LOL FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
(05:59) LOL k
(05:59) * LOL last int game --> Time=20,79 Est Time=20,79 3BV=48 (48) 3BV/s=2,42 Ranks=1 / 61 of 202 / 85,14% CL/S=3,94 IOE=0,61 Op=8 op_done=8 Corr=0,70 truput=0,87 badg/s=0,60 arj/s=0,25 path=2416 IOR=1,04 rankIOS=21 :S
(05:59) Arj_ lol
(05:59) TamBui O.O
(05:59) TamBui LOL!!!!!
(05:59) Arj_ LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(05:59) LOL FOURTEENTHS @@@@@@@@@@@@@))))))))))))))))))))) SEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

******* syndrome

   
May 5th 2006 at 05:37:38 PM
Name:  

Arjádre

Best intermediate:  

16x2=>16x3

Comments:  

...and now a legitimate reason for spamming!

16.706 on a 40 at 2.547 3bvs NF and 6.56 RQP

16+68=84 Way to have my best period ever after less than 6 hours...

   
May 5th 2006 at 05:13:19 PM
Name:  

Arjádre

Comments:  

hehe, after, not before
way to spam

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May 5th 2006 at 05:12:18 PM
Name:  

Arjádre

Comments:  

@Dane:
Way to post 5 seconds before me (when I loaded the page, it was like WTF?, why isn't my post at the top?)

   
May 5th 2006 at 05:10:07 PM
Name:  

Dane

Best intermediate:  

26.14 => 26.11

Comments:  


   
May 5th 2006 at 05:10:02 PM
Name:  

Arjádre

Best expert:  

68=>68x2

Best intermediate:  

3.09 3bv/s flagging and 2.8=>3.136 3bv/s NF!!!

Comments:  

Also a 17.02 on a 39 NF to top it all off...
Way to tie last AR period in the first 5 hours of the new AR period!

The 3.136 was 25.553 on a 77
The 68 was 68.530 on a 143

The previous NF 3bv/s record was 2.88.

Also missed an est15 31/37 NF

   
May 5th 2006 at 02:00:10 PM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Comments:  

got 3.00, 3.03, 3.04, 3.08 and 3.26 int 3bv/s games today! a record

   
May 5th 2006 at 01:31:33 PM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Comments:  

(23:24) * Rilian|arbiter|coding last int game --> Time=28,60 Est Time=28,60 3BV=90 (90) 3BV/s=3,26 Ranks=71 / 1 of 130 / 73,07% CL/S=4,89 IOE=0,66 Op=7 Corr=0,64 truput=1,03 badg/s=1,12 arj/s=0,36 path=3674 IOR=1,45 rankIOS=1

my 2nd all-time int 3bv/s

   
May 5th 2006 at 12:58:07 PM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Best intermediate:  

13x 20sec :)

Comments:  

Here are the options Schu made for Arbiter

Expert OBV|(openings+islands)*1.12+(BBBV-openings)*0.59+(dx*dy-mines-3BV-
cell0+openings)*.35

Intermediate OBV|(openings+islands)*1.5+(BBBV-openings)*0.49+(dx*dy-mines-3BV-
cell0+openings)*.15

Beginner OBV|(openings+islands)*1.25+(BBBV-openings)*0.4+(dx*dy-mines-3BV-
cell0+openings)*.07

mode=1,2 or 3 counter just inserted

Building the efficiency formula for Clone that has no efficiency and islands counters is pretty useless. in this way it is just another "index of speed"

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May 5th 2006 at 12:15:20 PM
Name:  

Schroo

Comments:  

Arbiter doesn't have level=1,2,3 feature, so no formula yet.

BTW, this is just a demo model, but it already works quite well!

   
May 5th 2006 at 11:20:21 AM
Name:  

Schroo

Comments:  

For all that have been following it, here is the formula for OBV (the new name for MBV or M3BV):
(3-2.5*Level+0.5*Level^2)*(.07*numbers+.43*3BV+2.27*openings) + (-3+4*Level-Level^2)*(.2*numbers+.32*3BV+1.38*openings) + (1-1.5*Level+0.5*Level^2)*(.38*numbers+.23*3BV+.99*openings)

This version only works in clone 2006, I'll make another for arbiter and post it here soon.

OBV is like 3BV except that it should be just as easy for any given OBV value to get a high OBV/s score. Give it a try!

   
May 5th 2006 at 10:01:03 AM
Name:  

Daniel Brim

Best intermediate:  

16x2-->16x3

Comments:  

16.841 on a 40, again, I'm not upset, because it was a decent game, and there were no huge mistakes

@Dion: Way to sup 4.6

   
May 5th 2006 at 07:10:38 AM
Name:  

Schroo

Comments:  

Nice one Dion!!

Not to demean your record or anything, but OBV/s (my new index of performance) makes it 3.98 OBV/s. Shows you how easy your board was.

   
May 5th 2006 at 06:34:36 AM
Name:  

Dion Tiu

Best expert:  

3BV: 4.528 -> 4.599

Comments:  

LOL

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May 5th 2006 at 05:53:14 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

levente: someone has already sent me a 1sec vid with a 3bv 1, but they did it in 2 clicks!

   
May 5th 2006 at 04:59:58 AM
Name:  

Schroo

Comments:  

"It makes sucK a tiny difference.........."

Funniest typo ever!

   
May 5th 2006 at 03:43:20 AM
Name:  

Schroo

Comments:  

@ Levente: It makes suck a tiny difference in most games that it's not worth doing IMHO, because I've thought about this before.

The only way to properly fix this is to make clicking the smilry start the timer, and I doubt anyone really wants that.

   
May 4th 2006 at 10:37:25 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Comments:  

After achieving my first one on my 3900th game (approximately), I achieved my second one in a little over than 100 beginner games (1.77 on a 23bv as well).

Such an odd two nights!

   
May 4th 2006 at 06:27:43 PM
Name:  

Levente

Comments:  

Tam's game raises to me an important point about measuring 3bv/s and c/s.

He made two clicks: one at 1.00 and one at 1.10 - so he didn't make 20 c/s, but only 10. For clicks per second, we have to cut out the initial left click that starts the timer for a perfect calculation.

for 3bv/s it becomes a bit more complicated. In this calculation, he solved one 3bv at 1.00 and another at 1.10, so it's 10 3bv/s. But sometimes the initial left click may not solve a 3bv. Thus, the 3bv must be decremented by 1 if the first click solves a 3bv!

Imagine if it were a 3bv=1 and his first click was bogus and his 2nd click correct. Then he'd have solved one 3bv at 1.10 for a 3bv/s=10. Same value as his real game, which demands twice as much "skill" to get both 3bvs.

This is entirely not intuitive, but I think it's correct. WTF!!??

   
May 4th 2006 at 06:13:18 PM
Name:  

Tam Minh Bui

Best beginner:  

1.10 Seconds (20 3bv/s)

Comments:  

Very unexpected beginner game, I think it may be a world record!

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May 4th 2006 at 05:42:02 PM
Name:  

Dmitriy

Best intermediate:  

12x20sec ==============================> 13x20 sec

Comments:  

(03:41) * Sleepian last int game --> Time=20,90 Est Time=20,90 3BV=40 (40) 3BV/s=2,00 Ranks=1 / 86 of 98 / 56,63% CL/S=4,06 IOE=0,49 Op=5 Corr=0,60 truput=0,81 badg/s=1,00 arj/s=0,70 path=2621 IOR=1,04
(03:41) DB way to sub20
(03:41) AntiBadgers od****!!!!!
(03:41) *** DB is now known as Od****

   
May 4th 2006 at 11:58:14 AM
Name:  

Thomas

Comments:  

same goes for a 37 exp :D

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May 4th 2006 at 10:02:26 AM
Name:  

Daniel Brim

Comments:  

@Luke:

Not if you spend all of your life flipping out in the IRC, email, and the guestbook. To get a degree at MIT you need to spend, oh, I don't know, time?

   
May 4th 2006 at 03:45:51 AM
Name:  

Thomas

Best expert:  

65,86-->65,70!

Comments:  

And this time on a 123 3bv board, 3bvs/s converge towards an almost decent value of 1,90 :P

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May 4th 2006 at 01:31:48 AM
Name:  

luke

Best expert:  

37

Best intermediate:  

9

Comments:  

**** all u ****ers... u want video i give u video and u call me a cheater well **** u!!!! ******* badgers, **** ur cheating ways!!! 23 and 8 i dont believe u!! badgers i think im better than u!!! **** u i got a 9 legit and all u got to compare is a cheat game **** u!!!!! lol im gonna get a degree from mit and ur gonna be a douchebag in the trash and im gonna laugh and ****in spit on u fag!!!!

   
May 3rd 2006 at 10:39:32 PM
Name:  

Luke Chiang

Best intermediate:  

9.53

Comments:  

hahaha i beat badgers!!!!!

   
May 3rd 2006 at 07:51:46 PM
Name:  

Yoda Yoda

Comments:  

Luke Skywalker?

   
May 3rd 2006 at 06:51:19 PM
Name:  

Luke

Best expert:  

37

Best intermediate:  

13

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

which program is recommended to record videos?? i see clone and arbiter, either of these better than the regular minesweeper???

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May 3rd 2006 at 02:31:10 PM
Name:  

Levente

Best intermediate:  

14x7 (14.23 on a 40 today)

Comments:  

14.92->14.42->14.23 in the last few days. But no sub14s. I had 34/37 est 12.88 but no, I couldn't finish it.

At least I stay manly

   
May 3rd 2006 at 12:32:31 PM
Name:  

Arjádre

Best intermediate:  

16.18

Best beginner:  

1.16

Comments:  

@Thomas:^^^^^
@Levente: way to "officially" have a syndrome
My expert RQP record was over a month ago... way not to evolve... I just want to finish one of these sub68 ests...

   
May 3rd 2006 at 11:41:03 AM
Name:  

damien

Comments:  

i'd be interested...nice job.

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May 3rd 2006 at 05:59:30 AM
Name:  

Alexander Morgan

Best expert:  

54

Best intermediate:  

15

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

I have finally got minesweeper clone. don't know why I didn;t get it before. Been playing intermediate for about an hour and got a 16.92. Not my best score, but my best video. If anyone is interested in seeing it, let me know.

   
May 3rd 2006 at 04:15:54 AM
Name:  

Thomas

Comments:  

@ Arj:
Yeah, I totally suck at int... (records 20 )And I'm too lazy to get a 1. Dont you have a 1,13beg? I think I got a 1,16 on a 8*8, 4 mines custom board once, its a shame that doesnt count You have a 16 on int, right?

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