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Jun 9th 2004 at 03:23:00 AM
Name:  

Jon S

Comments:  

@Rodrigo:

I have tried to send you a couple of mails with history files lately, but it seems like your mailbox is full. Did you get any of my mails?

   
Jun 9th 2004 at 02:30:10 AM
Name:  

Lloyd

Best intermediate:  

19x3 19.61 -----> 19.45

Comments:  

Now I went and broke my intermediate record by a whopping 0.16 sec! Ok, so it's not much, but it's my 3rd sub 20, and it makes my AR times equal to my personal bests.

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 06:53:56 PM
Name:  

What is wrong with you homos

Comments:  

What the f u c k is wrong with you pussies, do you have nothing better to do than play minesweeper and come up with gay ass excuses why its not gay. **** you guys are fags.

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Jun 8th 2004 at 06:29:02 PM
Name:  

You f u c k i n g losers, do you have lives?

Comments:  

You homos

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Jun 8th 2004 at 05:37:44 PM
Name:  

James C

Comments:  

Hey, Michael why didn't you post to the AR? I seem to recall you set a couple of personal bests this period.

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 05:35:47 PM
Name:  

James C

Comments:  

If you go with the winner of that poll, I would accept it, however, you would still have the dilemma of deciding what constitutes as "Unfair Prior Knowledge." Not only that, you would still be stuck with having to take someone's word for the questionable records that are on the list, and we would be right back to where we started. Given all that, maybe it would just be better to go with the second place finisher in the poll, which of course, I voted for.

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 03:50:36 PM
Name:  

Michael S. Repton

Comments:  

Well, here are the results from the poll:

Leave it alone, the dreamboard is a part of the game: 5

Erase and do not accept any dreamboard or "unfair-prior-knowledge"-made results: 2

Erase all dreamboard or "unfair-prior-knowledge"-made results and accept only records made on the clone: 1

Erase all sub-1x results and accept records with only video proofs in the future: 2

Begin a brand-new all-time list: 1

Begin a new list for clone results but keep the original list, too: 4

Erase all records made by "unfair-prior-knowledge" only but leave dreamboard scores not made this way alone: 14

Total: 29

The last option is thus at the moment a clear winner (yay!) and quite a few days have gone now without any votes. Can we not take that as a final decision?

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 03:41:43 PM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Comments:  

About the DB: I thought about the same thing a couple of days ago... I really don't bother to have that discussion again, since I don't think any new arguments has come up, but maybe it would be a good idea to take a final descision somehow?

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Jun 8th 2004 at 03:12:38 PM
Name:  

Daniele

Best beginner:  

3.45 --> 3.72 3bv/s

Comments:  

A little improvement...

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Jun 8th 2004 at 03:12:07 PM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

Oh, great! Let's add more flawed scores to the best ever. Hold on, give me next weekend and I'll surprisingly come across the DB for a new WR!

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 02:29:26 PM
Name:  

Dave Morgan

Comments:  

It's in the best ever too...

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 02:25:45 PM
Name:  

Dave Morgan

Comments:  

Elmar - I was going to ask that, but I couldn't be bothered with potentially starting a fight so I just left it

I thought DB times weren't allowed for the AR though...

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Jun 8th 2004 at 02:10:11 PM
Name:  

Stephan

Comments:  

AR statistics have been updated. With Eduardo Cros dropping out after 62 listings in a row, there are only four players left who have been listed in all 63 AR periods until now!

Btw: This year, the number of participants is enormous, therefore I enlarged the statistics to 40 entries per table!

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 12:41:31 PM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

Ok, here's a discussion we haven't had in a while:

Why was Stephen's 11 accepted for the AR?!

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 11:41:16 AM
Name:  

Christoph Marx

Comments:  

@Elmar: Cool, jetzt lerne ich hier sogar noch ein wenig Französisch.

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 11:35:37 AM
Name:  

Christoph Marx

Comments:  

@Katy:
See: Fun is what the life is about.
So: It was perfectly clear that you made fun, like I did.
@Superhero: Any spelling-errors?
@everyone: have fun and keep sweeping

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 11:32:35 AM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

In frensh it's a-p-p-a-r-t-e-m-e-n-t, maybe that's why you got confused Chris.

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 11:15:27 AM
Name:  

Dave Matson

Comments:  

@ Katy: You want to know something very odd? Normally, I'm a very good speller. In fact, I'd like to think that if I were a superhero, my superpower would be super-spelling!

@ All: Holy crap, two Canadians in the top 10!

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 10:36:39 AM
Name:  

Katy LaVallee

Comments:  

sorry Christoph (didn't i start a post like that once before?)... i guess i didn't make it clear that i was only making fun of dave

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 09:41:45 AM
Name:  

Christoph Marx

Comments:  

@Katy: So perhaps I can also experience your magnanimous forgiveness since I'm a math student and my native language is German?

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 07:26:15 AM
Name:  

Katy LaVallee

Comments:  

yay lloyd! i'm so happy for you.

@dave: good thing you're a math teacher and not an english teacher.

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 03:57:00 AM
Name:  

Dave Matson

Comments:  

Yeesh Katy. Okay, I give up, apartment.

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 12:47:20 AM
Name:  

Lloyd Rhoads (aka piman)

Best expert:  

71x3 ==> 69!

Best intermediate:  

19x2

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

After 2 months since my first 71, I FINALLY beat my expert record by 2 sec, and got my first sub 70! It was a 69.27 on a 156 3BV board on the clone!

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 12:39:37 AM
Name:  

Katy LaVallee

Comments:  

a-p-a-r-t-m-e-n-t

   
Jun 8th 2004 at 12:01:21 AM
Name:  

Christoph Marx

Comments:  

@Dave&James: The idea was that the owner can highly increase the fee if he finds a new tannant what he cannot if the old one stays. But I think we should return to minesweeper-topics instead of discussing Austrian rental problems. (and of course a flat is an appartment)

   
Jun 7th 2004 at 09:05:48 AM
Name:  

Dave Matson

Comments:  

@ James: I'm pretty sure a flat is an appartment. I've been to Scotland before, and everyone kept mentioning "flats", and they had to explain to me that it is an appartment.

About that case in Austria where someone lost the appartment because of not being there, or whatever. I understand that the owner would want to raise fees if the tennant is going to be there all the time. After all, he is using more hot water for showers if he is home, more hot water for laundry, more electricity, more heat, etc. (depending on what is included in the renting price) But if the person is not going to be using those facilities at home, the owner should be happy because it would lower his owning costs. The owner would pay less in electricity, etc. Maybe I just misunderstood, though. I tend to do that.

   
Jun 7th 2004 at 09:02:56 AM
Name:  

James C

Comments:  

That word is eff ay gee. I figured it would censor it, but I thought it would at least be "*** for." Just letting you know that it wasn't a real curse.

   
Jun 7th 2004 at 06:45:03 AM
Name:  

James C

Comments:  

This may be a little strange, but what exactly is a flat? I always thought it was just a word for apartment like ******* cigarrette or something.

Also, I hate to say it, but the site with the stats looks so interesting that I almost want to submit to it. Almost... I still play the MS versions more than 50% of my games, so my stats wouldn't be a good representation. I also have cleared the history 4 or 5 times.

   
Jun 7th 2004 at 06:11:05 AM
Name:  

Christoph Marx

Comments:  

@Benoit: I understand and allways understood that time is a problem. But you give perfectly no explaination, why it is difficult to create such a feature!
You're not the only one who can work with PHP. Of course also for me the main problem would be time, but I'll have some free houres this Thursday. If you'd sent over the PHP-source I can add the feature (if Rodrigo adds the BOOLs to the history files). Perhaps there are other sweepers who have more time than you or I who would offer their help.
Time will not be problem. We all want the best for the game and I'm you will find help in the minesweeper community if you haven't enought time or if something is to difficult (if you ask).

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Jun 7th 2004 at 05:36:12 AM
Name:  

Benoit DUFFEZ

Comments:  

You just need to know something: I have been doing 99% of the PHP scripting of Detrusor's site, I know how to add a bitset mask to verify which data can be displayed or not, but Detrusor does not know PHP scripting and he's learning with me.
I really don't have the time to add features in this site because I have other projects and I also have a social life (it seems that everybody don't, and don't assume that).
I say that to tell you that it's not only a matter of difficulty but also a matter of TIME, and moreover, like Detrusor said, it IS difficult to add such feature, since he does not know PHP scripting well.

I hope you'll understand now why it's difficult to add this feature.

   
Jun 7th 2004 at 02:50:02 AM
Name:  

Christoph Marx

Comments:  

@Detruser: If also the dates when I achieved times and 3BV/s are removed, I will send in my history file. But I'd really prefer to can choose for every single stat if it is displayed or not. Btw I can imagine reasons why someone don't want Flag/NF stats to be displayed but I don't want to start a discussion about that.
I don't think, that anyone will decide not to send in his history file because he/she can choose which stats are displayed.

@Dave: The clone doesn't explicitly tell you that the history file can be used to display personal data and so Detruser cannot be sure if you agree displaying the data - and that's the point.
It doesn't matter that everyone should be able to imagine that a file thats called "history" obviously contains personal data.
Even if you know that the history file contains data you don't want to be published, it's still not the same to send someone the file or to give the permission to publish it. You could send the file to Rodrigo and ask him to remove one of the times because it was created by a bug. If he than sends the data to Detruser who places it on the page without asking you, that wouldn't be ok. But it would be difficult to proof how the data reached the page. So Detruser would be responsable because it is his page.
You have to be entirely sure that the person whos personal data you're publishing agrees befor you publish it.

The thing with the flat: the Austrian rental law is a bit complicated. It is not easy to increase the rent while the Tanant stays the same. So often the house owner want someone out because he can rent the flat MUCH more expensive to someone else. Therefor many reasons are used, one of them is that you don't use the flat frequently enought. Many renting contracts contain that you can only keep the flat if you live there. That the shower was only used once a week was used to proof that the flat wasn't the 'center of life'. Such and similar things happen pretty often here in Austria.

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Jun 7th 2004 at 01:57:22 AM
Name:  

Grégoire Duffez (Detrusor)

Comments:  

Well.. i didn't explain clearly. This option doesn't exist on the site, and won't. It will exist into the clone, in future versions. Just ask me if you don't like to have too personal stats displayed, and i manually activate this option.

Note that asocial rankink isn't new, but display strange totals... i wonder how it's possible, since the same page on the french site works fine (http://www.planete-demineur.com/french/class_clone.php?fichier=active)

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Jun 6th 2004 at 11:35:10 PM
Name:  

Gergely

Comments:  

@Detrusor: I can't find this option on your site! It's OK that you excluded yourself from some lists, but... And there are more inconsistencies besides. For example, what the heck is this new most asocial ranking (from which I want to unsubscribe)???

   
Jun 6th 2004 at 11:31:39 AM
Name:  

Grégoire Duffez (Detrusor)

Comments:  

Well, Christoph (and all), i've added an option to hide the unwanted stats. Just check the rankings : i do not appear on asocial & night rankings, but i appear on the other. And check my personal page statistics http://www.planet-minesweeper.com/english/overall.php?id=1 You can see that unwanted stats are removed. (several graphs, the total time played)
Would you submit your history if your stats appear like mine at the moment ?

I'd prefer not enabling people to be able to chose whether or not displaying this or that stats, because i'm afraid that less people would enter the rankings... By the way, i wonder why someone could decide to not show his NF stats, or 3BV/s, or boards repartition...

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Jun 6th 2004 at 09:50:07 AM
Name:  

Dave Morgan

Comments:  

Christoph - surely by sending in the data your agreeing to let it be displayed, and whilst you do then have the right to ask for it to be taken down, the webmaster has the right to decide whether to take off all of the data or just the stuff that you ask him/her to take off (I agree with you that it would be better if people could choose which data would be displayed rather than an all or nothing thing, and I don't see why there should be any problems with implementing this)

I'm intruiged as to how someone could be thrown out of their flat for only using the shower once a week though...

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Jun 6th 2004 at 08:33:31 AM
Name:  

Stephan

Comments:  

Thanks to Elmar, Martin, and Roli. And Elmar: nachträglich auch alles Gute von mir! War gestern fernab von jedem Internetzugang!

   
Jun 6th 2004 at 06:52:21 AM
Name:  

Christoph Marx

Comments:  

Oh dear! what have I done!
I was 20 mins annoyed an wrote one post that was a bit agressive formulated. And what happens: Everyone seems to be annoyed and the posts get more and more agressive.
Hey! Cool down.
Yes, I overreacted, when I wrote like I would think Detruser would make a bad work. All I meant was: I started programming in 1991 when I was 10 years old and I can't belive that the way of handling Marc mentioned is difficult to realize. It can't be a problem to add a window with checkboxes to the clone, which data you want to have displayed on the web. The routine which creates the stats-page allready exists, it can also be added to the clone, so everyone could see his stats-page befor he/she transmits it.

I think there are some things I should remark additionally:
-It's not just, that I don't want my data to be displayed, it's also a question of law. I don't know about other contries, but in Austria the law for data protection wouldn't allow the page the way it is. If you publish this daytime and weektime stats you're publishing personal data. And if you do so you would have to tell the player exactly which data you are displaying, and at least remove te data at once if the player asks you to do so, otherwise you would commit an offence. If the player can choose the displayed data in the clone, that problem would be solved.
-I'm not playing minesweeper at work!

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Jun 5th 2004 at 02:57:09 PM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Comments:  

Happy birthday Elmar and Stephan

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Jun 5th 2004 at 01:20:38 PM
Name:  

Marc Schouten

Comments:  

*sigh*

I'm not talking about your intentions. I'm talking about what the consequences will be if you decide to display all stats.

As for a suggestion: allow all stats to be toggled on/off individually.

   
Jun 5th 2004 at 01:19:39 PM
Name:  

Roli

Comments:  

And here goes another record for me: NF: 76--->68 Congratulations to the german birthday guys!!!

   
Jun 5th 2004 at 01:13:41 PM
Name:  

Grégoire Duffez (Detrusor)

Comments:  

No, no no. I don't want to, and i'm not going to. Since i suggest a solution, i'm not "going to".
Instead of giving me bad intentions, you'd better answer my question about the option i suggested. You say you don't want the whole datas to be displayed ; so what are the one that you want to hide ?

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Jun 5th 2004 at 12:34:00 PM
Name:  

Marc Schouten

Comments:  

"WHERE THE HELL have you read that i wanted to exclude him ???"

I never said that you *wanted* to exclude people. I said you were *going to* exclude people. By automatically reporting all stats, people will not submit. I would never submit my times if all those stats would be openly displayed on the web.

"And i repeat another time : if people who don't want all to be displayed don't want the same things to be hided, IT IS COMPLICATED."

I know my php/mysql stuff. If you cannot easily implement a display flag per stat per person then I'm sorry, but you haven't structured your application well enough.

   
Jun 5th 2004 at 12:23:46 PM
Name:  

Grégoire Duffez (Detrusor)

Comments:  

Please !!! Read what i write before talking about wrong things... So i repeat :
I'm sure (correct me if i'm wrong) that the stats you want to get hided are : daily&weekly stats, most asocial ranking, night birds ranking.
I can make an option to have ALL stats displayed, OR all but the one i mentionned.

"If you're going to exclude people who don't want to see that info posted, the validity of your rankings becomes very questionable indeed" WHERE THE HELL have you read that i wanted to exclude him ???
And i repeat another time : if people who don't want all to be displayed don't want the same things to be hided, IT IS COMPLICATED. If i can make 2 options that people can choose between:
1 = show everything
2 = show everything but what is bothering (i.e last20days, weekly/daily, asocial ranking, night bird ranking),
where is the problem ?

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Jun 5th 2004 at 10:48:37 AM
Name:  

Marc Schouten

Comments:  

Wow... Way to overreact, people..
Perhaps Christoph's post was a tad emotional but his concerns are very valid. You people are responding in the same manner you're burning him down for.

You are posting a whole lot of personal information about people. If you're going to exclude people who don't want to see that info posted, the validity of your rankings becomes very questionable indeed.

   
Jun 5th 2004 at 10:32:30 AM
Name:  

Dave Morgan

Comments:  

woohoo, I got a 70 last night (after the AR deadline), and a 17 this afternoon - so my times for next period will be reasonable (just wait until I get home on the 24th and we'll see what I can do then )

I put screenshots on my homepage for anyone who cares

I didn't find Christoph's post that offensive - whilst maybe he was a little too annoyed, I don't see it being that difficult for people to choose what statistics of theirs are shown, allowing those who don't want people to see all of theirs stats to still enter into some of the fun. Nothing to get angry about though

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Jun 5th 2004 at 09:39:42 AM
Name:  

Stephen

Comments:  

It has been in my experience that ANY company, regardless of the work people do for them, have large problems with any type of time wasting. I am sure that if someone works for a computer company, and maybe plays a game or two of minesweeper in the morning for a couple minutes, their employers will have little or no problem with this. You see, the reason the employer hires someone in the first place is so that they can make them money somehow. It's that simple. The last time I checked I didn't receive a large cheque in the mail congratulating me for beating my expert record, or finishing 400 games. I don't know what you are complaining about, Christoph, but your offensive post was quite annoying, to be blunt. And of course there is always the option of not sending in your history file to Detrusor. It seems entirely illogical to send in your history file, have it analyzed professionally by people who put in work for nothing but to compare different players, and then whine to and even insult the analyzers. Anyways, that's my two cents on your lovely post.

   
Jun 5th 2004 at 05:53:06 AM
Name:  

Grégoire Duffez (Detrusor)

Comments:  

Feel free to re-email your file history.inf if you want to have your personal stats updated
You can email Rodrigo or me, as you like.
(Please say in the email if you don't play with 0.92 version)

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Jun 5th 2004 at 05:46:13 AM
Name:  

Matti

Best intermediate:  

time(clone): 16,76; 3bv/s(clone): 3,07

Comments:  

I´ve got a new mouse.

Sadly I didn´t have a chance to see the video (16,76 sec) because a runtime error occured.

   
Jun 5th 2004 at 01:50:56 AM
Name:  

Benoit DUFFEZ

Comments:  

I don't like the way you are talking about the work we did.
First of all I want to tell you that I've been making this site with detrusor for long time and I've spent MANY hours doing PHP scripting for a site which didn't belong to me (it's still Detrusor's)

After reading the post of Christoph, I'm thinking that he has the choice not to upload his history and then he won't get fired... I'm reacting like that because he tells things in the wrong way. I think he should read his post acting like he did all the work on the site, and then maybe he'll understand what I think...

Last thing: I agree with my brother not because he's my brother but because he's telling the truth:
"if you are worried about getting fired because your boss discovered you play at work, then don't play at work ! It's up to you to assume what you do..."

   
Jun 5th 2004 at 01:32:24 AM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

Happy Birthday to Stephan (and myself )!

...and happy belated b-day to my exp record which turned one year on june 3rd...

   
Jun 4th 2004 at 10:07:55 PM
Name:  

Dennis Lütken

Comments:  

Morning everyone!

I'm off to Thailand! The Taxi which is going to drive us to the railway station will be here in about 40 minutes and I still haven't had breakfast but I thought I'd just drop a goodbye note! See you all in two weeks!

Good luck everyone and happy sweeping!

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Jun 4th 2004 at 08:56:22 PM
Name:  

Jarad

Best expert:  

55

Best intermediate:  

15

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

Havent dropped by in a while and my play has seriously diminished as of late, think I need a new mouse actually. anyway, I downloaded the minesweeper clone and I must say that I think it is seriously marvelous. Kudos to the creators!

   
Jun 4th 2004 at 07:11:52 PM
Name:  

Yoni Roll

Comments:  

@James C: Yes, it a clone only ranking list, but that has nothing with the moving to clone only games debate, even if we want it's not possible to add MS vesion stats to that list.

@Detrusor, maybe it is possible to make a form inside the clone where you choose what you want to be shown on you and send it with the history file, so everyone can choose what they want.

   
Jun 4th 2004 at 01:20:56 PM
Name:  

James C

Comments:  

Should I?

Actually I was just curious what this is all for. Is it a clone only ranking list that's going to be maintained separately from the AR? Because I personnally have no desire or intention of participating in such a thing. Just curious.

   
Jun 4th 2004 at 11:12:17 AM
Name:  

Dave Matson

Comments:  

One would think it would be possible to put all of those "time-of-day" stats on the clone so that you can see your own, but noone else's. That would end this debate now!

   
Jun 4th 2004 at 11:00:59 AM
Name:  

Gergely

Comments:  

Well, I don't like anonym comments. And the more important thing is that Christoph just misunderstood what I wanted to say. The player statistics is good, but:

@Rodrigo: can't you just put it into the game? So one can watch his stats offline, too - and those could be sent by email, if a player is curious about an other's stats . Plus, we could avoid debating on privacy.

And the other thing is: simply unbelievable that while I've played on the clone for 14 hours for approx. 2 months (and even THIS can more aggregating all games), others, who have been playing on the MS version mostly or finish less games on average, rank much lower with such ridiculous stats. So the point is that the most asocial table is pointless, useless. That's not a real useable statistic - believe me, I passed an advanced stats exam today

Good luck!

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Jun 4th 2004 at 10:52:31 AM
Name:  

Grégoire Duffez (Detrusor)

Comments:  

@Christoph:
First : i don't really like the way you expose the problem. I still think there are other ways to put it... Remember that a criticism is useful only if it is constructive, and not scorning.

Second, no need to get so upset, and to go with so boring
a-friend-of-friend-of-mine-knows-someone-who's-brother's-friend-know-someone-who-got-fired examples. I can understand without that BS. So yes it's possible, and it would be simple only if the people that don't want all to be displayed really want the SAME THINGS to be hided.
If not, THAT is complicated; you should easily understand that.

I'm sure (correct me if i'm wrong) that the stats you want to get hided are : daily&weekly stats, most asocial ranking, night birds ranking.
I can make an option to have ALL stats displayed, OR all but the one i mentionned.

Would such an option satisfy you ?

(NB : if you are worried about getting fired because your boss discovered you play at work, then don't play at work ! It's up to you to assume what you do...)

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Jun 4th 2004 at 09:22:16 AM
Name:  

Anonymous

Comments:  

I agree that the times of play should not be on the site. It is highly unlikely that someone would, but it is possible for someone to find out information about you that you don't want people to find out. People could use that information for various reeasons (theft, maybe?) Is that information really important for other users to have anyway? I don't know, if that info is important, maybe we could have the stats password protected? Not individually, but just have a group password that we could enter to see the stats.

This seems like it's spinning out of control! Maybe we should just stick with the KISS rule. (Keep It Simple Stupid!)

   
Jun 4th 2004 at 08:52:02 AM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

@Christoph: Geez, no need to get so excited. Détruser, Benoit and Rodrigo put a lot of work into this. When he says it's difficult to change I'm sure he's not doing so to **** you off...
I think there's a problem because the ranking is supposed to be automatic + encrypted. But I'm sure he can give you a better response.
Besides there is no personal information and I'm sure there's more than one Christoph Marx from Austria....

   
Jun 4th 2004 at 04:48:01 AM
Name:  

Christoph Marx

Comments:  

@Detrusor:
Your site look like you'd know how to design a website. So don't tell me that such easy things are "really more complicated"!! I'm not that stupid. (That's the first time this year I'm really upset.)
concernig your questions:
-Yes, I could come into serious trouble because of my data.
-Just look at the stats and think about how much intelligence you could gain with this information about a player. The nice day- and week-stats really tell a lot about behaviour -> When he/she usually sleeps/not sleeps, whith days in the week he/she is very bussy which not, how long one can concentrate, when he/she is located at home/in front of the computer...
All that are informations that can also be used to trace someone.
I know a case where someone was thrown out of a flat because the owner of the house could proof that the shower was only used once a week (he took his dayly showers in the sport club).
I also know a guy who was thrown out of the school because his computer-playing-activities were logged.
And a friend of my brother lost his job because his emails were surveilled.
Just imagine the poor player who's boss says: "Yesterday I found a nice site on the web and figured out, that you are playing minesweeper at work. You're fired."
-I was talking about the clone-ranking. I guess, you have a nice database of history files. It can't be a great deal to add players with an empty history which is only partial updated everytime the player submits a vid of a new record. For some of the views that's enought to rank the player and in the others he simpy doesn't appear. And the stats-link for such players could be removed, thats not more than one BOOLEAN "display_stats" or so. You really really really can't tell me that that's very complicated.

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Jun 3rd 2004 at 09:05:56 PM
Name:  

Stephen Arnason

Best expert:  

61 x 3

Comments:  

Well I have had an unbelievable AR period this time around - 11-61 for a total of 72. Both are my records. (of course, the 11 was on the dreamboard, but still). I can still remember when my record on expert was 83 seconds then went to 73 and then well oh my word so much has happened. Anyways good luck to all other sweepers with AR as well.

   
Jun 3rd 2004 at 06:09:26 PM
Name:  

Robert Benditz aka Hopsing

Best expert:  

83 ===>>>78

Best intermediate:  

23x3

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

Talking about trashing people on AR? Here I am! Got an amazing 78 . 4 seconds to drop till sub100
Check my page to watch the vid
cya all
Hopsing

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Jun 3rd 2004 at 06:03:57 PM
Name:  

Dave Matson

Comments:  

@ James:

No, I didn't beat 88. I'm going to be up tonight playing for a bit though. Who knows? Yeah right.

   
Jun 3rd 2004 at 04:01:14 PM
Name:  

James C

Comments:  

Nice Dave. My best is 1.90. And barring some miracle tonight you are going to thrash me good in this AR period. Did you beat your 88 yet?

   
Jun 3rd 2004 at 02:13:12 PM
Name:  

Dave Matson

Best expert:  

1.97 3BV/sec --> 2.08 3BV/sec

Comments:  

It's not much, but I beat it!

   
Jun 3rd 2004 at 06:54:08 AM
Name:  

Jon S

Comments:  

@Dennis:

That sounds interesting. I don't put up my e-mail address everywhere, because I just get lots of junk mail. It's so bad that I might not detect messages from "serious" people among the other crap. I think I've got the right mail address together with this post.

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Jun 3rd 2004 at 05:55:41 AM
Name:  

Dennis Lütken

Comments:  

Jon, can I get your e-mail address? I looked at your website to try to find it and I couldn't... It's not in my address book either.... I would like to send you something! You can either write it on here or send me an e-mail... I don't care. But I think you might like what I want to send you!
... Hope you're getting curious now... :-P

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Jun 3rd 2004 at 04:56:54 AM
Name:  

Grégoire Duffez (Detrusor)

Comments:  

(2000 characters !)

@Jon S
The statistics are only using the datas saved on each game you play on the clone. The clone is based on the computer clock, so you will have 2002 stats... Unless you finally changed your clock to have the correct time and date, you may have weird stats ... weird, but they'll work. I hope that even you had the wrong date, you had the correct time ! Because it could be bad for the 'nigth birds' ranking if you always played in the night because of a wrong clock

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Jun 3rd 2004 at 04:56:18 AM
Name:  

Grégoire Duffez (Detrusor)

Best expert:  

62

Best intermediate:  

17

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

@Christoph Marx
I'm sorry for you, but i'm afraid it'd be really more complicated to allow full stats for some players, and only partial for others...

To be honnest, i don't really understand which datas you don't like to be revealed on the site. Is it the total time spent playing ? the local hours ? What do you mean when you speak about 'unsafe' ? Could you be threatened because of your datas ??? Do you have to hide to play or what ?
I don't criticize your choice, but if you could explain more, it'd be cool...
Last, which "list" are you talking about when you say "it would be a good idea to accept clone-vids to enter the list" do you mean a new list where players would be rankes with the videos they send ?

@Dennis
the statistics feature will use the history that exist with the 0.92 version. But in the period of transition between previous and 0.92, we can upload the statistics of your old histories.
Concretely, 1. you download the version 0.92
2. you send all your old histories to rodrigo, with renaming them like history_0.80.inf, history_0.91(1).inf, history_0.91(2).inf etc...
Rodrigo should send you back only one history that contain all your old ones. The one history will be a 0.92 converted one, and can work only with 0.92 version.
3. you can then put the new history.inf file into 0.92 directory, and play !
4. After that, when you want to upload new statistics, just submit the history.inf you have on version 0.92 (new games will be stored in it).
Have a good holydays in Thailand !

Please all remember that it is a preview ! In the next versions, uploading histories will be an integrated feature into the clone. You'll just have to click on 'submit new stats' or something. No need to send mails and mails each time you want new stats to be added

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Jun 3rd 2004 at 04:42:54 AM
Name:  

Jon S

Comments:  

I think the new statistics pages for the clone are looking great. Are the dates based on the computer clock? If so, I'll get scores from 2002 in the statistics section. I hope my statistics won't be screwed up because I adjusted the clock so that the Camtasia demo should work.

   
Jun 3rd 2004 at 04:02:00 AM
Name:  

Dennis Lütken

Best expert:  

61

Best intermediate:  

14

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

I like the new rankings feature... But how does it work exactly? Do I submit my old history files? Or can I only submit files from the 0.92 beta version??? Right now I have three different 0.91 games downloaded that I switch between frequently... I assume that I have to download only ONE 0.92 beta version and play all of my good/bad/flagging/non-flagging/experimental games on that one, right?

I'll be going to Thailand on Saturday for two weeks so I won't be able to play! I also haven't really played more than a couple of hours total these last couple of weeks because of exams! My AR is terrible so far: 19-81... I hope I'll be able to improve some today though but I've got an exam tomorrow so I'm not going to spend much time playing! I wonder if I'll ever get down around 61 again... It's been been a long time since my last sub-70! The 19 I did manage to get yesterday on int was on a 53 3bv board with a 3bv per sec of 2.90 so that's really nice but I somehow can't finish low 3bv boards fast right now... I think it'll take me quite a while to get back to the form I once had but I'll start working on it when I return from Thailand! Take care and happy sweeping everyone!

   
Jun 3rd 2004 at 03:07:40 AM
Name:  

Roli

Best expert:  

54

Best intermediate:  

9 db

Best beginner:  

2 ---> 1!!!

Comments:  

Yeees, finally. Yesterday night I decided to try out the 0.92 version of Rodrigos clone to see if it still lags on my system. It did and I managed an 86 and a 26! Wow. But on beginner in the first minutes I suddenly got a 3 3BV board and finished with 5 clicks in 1.99. So, sweet sweet irony, Rodrigos clone became a friend in the end. Good luck, Sweepers!

   
Jun 3rd 2004 at 01:00:31 AM
Name:  

Christoph Marx

Comments:  

I had the same problems with the new clone version as Stephen.
I like the new clone ranking, but I don't like the idea to transmit the history files. Like Gergely posted "I hope my girlfriend will never find the site" (ar something like that), I think that other players don't like so much information about when and how much they play to be published on the web. At least for me it's too unsafe to open my history files to everyone. So I will never appear on this list if it stays like it is.
I think it would be a good idea to accept clone-vids to enter the list. Is it necessary that every player has his stats-site?

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Jun 2nd 2004 at 07:54:36 PM
Name:  

mat tabacco

Best expert:  

74 today

Best intermediate:  

22

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

i would really like to get on one of the lists, every time i try to submit my scores, it doesnt allow me to becasue i do not have the proper email client installed or something like that
any suggestions?
thanks alot!

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Jun 2nd 2004 at 07:53:02 PM
Name:  

Stephen

Comments:  

@Rodrigo: I just played a multiplayer game with my brother (as we recently purchased a mouse for the old computer) and for some reason when we play, we'll be on intermediate level, and then all of a sudden no mines will appear. The entire field is blank. What the heck is up with that? then when we disconnect gameplay is normal. Both running 0.92 beta. Weird.

   
Jun 2nd 2004 at 12:10:51 PM
Name:  

Benoit DUFFEZ (aka Bicou)

Best expert:  

125

Best intermediate:  

33

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

Hey, it's my first post here. I'm glad you apreciate our work, I'm also happy about how it looks

@Stephen: I'm afraid you won't be able to have your scores in the graphs because it's only based on the history.inf file. Maybe Rodrigo will be able to make another one for you I hope so.

See you around! (most likely on Detrusor's site)

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Jun 2nd 2004 at 08:20:06 AM
Name:  

Active Ranking

Comments:  

**** Deadline Friday @ 20:00 GMT/ 4pm EDT ****

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Jun 1st 2004 at 02:32:56 PM
Name:  

Stephan

Comments:  

It seems I get used to the clone more and more: Got a 61 and a 62 within 2 minutes, tied my beginner record of 2.74 (and have to admit that my int record is "only" 13.37 [the battery of my brain's memory seems to get older...]).

   
Jun 1st 2004 at 01:08:37 PM
Name:  

Stephan

Best intermediate:  

clone: 14.81 --> 13.31

Comments:  

Detrusor, Benoit, and Rodrigo, you did a great job! I like your rankings very much! It seems that I have to send in my history file again to get my new 13.31 int record up there

   
Jun 1st 2004 at 08:01:04 AM
Name:  

Stephen

Best expert:  

61

Best intermediate:  

11

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

@ Benoit, or perhaps Rodrigo: or whomever is making the clone Best ever list, I formatted my computer, but i sent my 16 second video to Rodrigo, (no longer do i have it, but) i believe it was a 16.34 seconds, and I have also a 2.50 seconds on a 6 3bv board, 4.00 3bv/s but it too was lost in the format. Do the scores have to be strictly from the history, or can they be from videos before as well, and word taken?

   
Jun 1st 2004 at 07:23:22 AM
Name:  

Anonymous

Comments:  

Noticed one small mistake: useful, not usefull. The rest looks great!

   
Jun 1st 2004 at 06:42:16 AM
Name:  

Grégoire Duffez (Detrusor)

Comments:  

As i said on my forum (i forgot here...):
There are some known bugs, to be corrected :
- best form ranking -> it's the same as classic ranking
- last 20 days graphic
- countries statistics -> unsorted
- the "ranks" cells in each player's page are empty

   
Jun 1st 2004 at 05:33:12 AM
Name:  

Gergely

Comments:  

As Georgi said, it's really great! Good ideas again for stats fans But, there are some problems: what does that mean that 22/05 I played 953 games? (In the last 20 days activity table) And, it was a bit frightening noticing myself as the 2nd most asocial player! I hope my girlfriend won't find the list She would then curse me first, then you and finally the whole game! Btw, it just doesn't reflects the truth, because it is counted from the finished games only. That's the only thing I would take out. But all in all it's really great!!!

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Jun 1st 2004 at 03:16:34 AM
Name:  

Georgi

Comments:  

Rodrigo, Grégoire, Benoit,

THAT'S FANTASTIC

   
May 31st 2004 at 05:30:32 PM
Name:  

Winant

Best expert:  

97

Best intermediate:  

27

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

I just came across this site today, and here I find myself amazed at the scores. I thought I had a great score on the expert level with 97 seconds, now that turns out to be slow. I guess I'll have to practice some more.
How do you guys do that, finishing expert level in under 50 seconds? Really amazing.

Bye,

Winant

   
May 31st 2004 at 02:42:15 PM
Name:  

Grégoire Duffez (Detrusor)

Comments:  

I forgot to say one thing :
please report any bug / suggestion / comment / addition to make / english mistake.... etc on the forum (on my site if possible)

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May 31st 2004 at 02:22:47 PM
Name:  

Grégoire Duffez (Detrusor)

Comments:  

Well it's time for releasing the preview of the uploading feature : you can see that here http://www.planet-minesweeper.com/english/class_home.php

You have to click on 'clone' to see the rankings, statistics; etc...

Please note that this isn't finished : some graphics doesn't work, some rankings aren't correct, there are little errors, but you can have a good feeling about how the feature will be.

The encryption will make all the stats, rankings cheatproof

NB : the 'we' Rodrigo is using means Rodrigo, Benoit Duffez (my brother), and me.

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May 31st 2004 at 02:04:38 PM
Name:  

James C

Comments:  

Talk about dead. Doesn't anybody post on here if I am not arguing with them?

   
May 30th 2004 at 04:27:19 PM
Name:  

?????

Best expert:  

?

Best intermediate:  

?

Best beginner:  

7

Comments:  

Hey minesweeper fans!

   
May 30th 2004 at 04:12:21 PM
Name:  

Dave Morgan

Comments:  

Michael - I can't find you're address in the oxford contact search, so send me an email..

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May 30th 2004 at 02:44:15 PM
Name:  

Rodrigo

Comments:  

Hi again, everybody!

After a long time, I finally made an update on the clone. I improved the auto recording feature so that now it is possible to set different folders and different names for each conditions of saving. For example, if you want to save NF games in one folder, completed games in other and incompleted in another, etc. Also added an option to temporarily disable logging to history, just in case you want to play and don't want the game to be in your history. Finally, I added encryption to the history file and changed its format to be smaller in size.

The encryption will be good for the automatically updated website that we are planning to do. I sincerely don't believe that someone is going to cheat, but it is good to have this security level. Let me explain how things will work: I ask those who download the newest 0.92 beta version to e-mail me your history.inf file. I will convert it, adding encryption, and e-mail it back. I promise I'll be checking e-mails very frequently these days, so that you won't be waiting long to receive it.

I'm probably going to show a preview of this feature about uploading histories to a site, that some people suggested since some time ago, when something is ready. Just remember to send your histories to the e-mail minesweeperclone@bol.com.br . I hope you all don't mind this inconvenient thing of e-mailing me your files. It won't give so much trouble, anyway!

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May 30th 2004 at 01:35:34 PM
Name:  

Jonas

Comments:  

I need some expert minesweeper help. I've created a new minesweeper game (it's pretty diffrent) and need some folks to help with feedback. Don't hold back, I really need some honest opinons of what you think about the game.

The game is called Dangerous Mines and can be looked at here: www.dangerousmines.com

If you could led your thoughts, that would be GREAT!.

Jonas

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May 30th 2004 at 08:46:34 AM
Name:  

Michael S. Repton

Best expert:  

78 -> 77

Comments:  

Such a let-down. After trying for MONTHS to improve that time I only get one second off it. And there was a horrible bit in the bottom centre where I had to guess; screwing up the courage to guess cost me about a second or two.

But I'll be back.....

Screenshot: http://users.ox.ac.uk/~ball1418/minesweep77.jpg

   
May 29th 2004 at 06:59:43 AM
Name:  

Georgi Kermekchiev

Comments:  

HI Everyone,

I am accepting offers from those who are ready take care of Best Ever Ranking future updates. At this moment only Christoph Marx and Katy LaVallee offered their help. I intend after getting all volunteers names to make a poll where the Minesweeper brotherhood to choose someone.
The Best Ever successor I think should be trusted personality with proven profile, dataprocessing/html/php skills and above all a lot of enthusiasm, energy and FREE TIME.

I expect he/she not only to make the regular updates, but to develope/automize it, make the necessary design changes, maybe reserve web address and promote it through the WEB

Please tell me if you can take that job seriously...

kermekchiev@hotmail.com

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May 29th 2004 at 05:19:18 AM
Name:  

Gustaf Forsman

Best intermediate:  

18.81 -> 18.62

Comments:  

Hehe, I'll upload it specially for you James
Btw: Sub80 on AR for the first time
Happy sweeping

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May 28th 2004 at 09:27:28 PM
Name:  

James C

Comments:  

Oh yeah, and I really don't believe that it was an original idea, so cut me some slack. It's not even the first time I thought of it.

   
May 28th 2004 at 09:26:24 PM
Name:  

James C.

Comments:  

So, I have been sitting here playing for most of the day and I have only finished 3 games, none of which I care to reveal the score for, by the way. Suffice it to say that I am not playing very well at all. I think I really need to take a break. But first I wanted to share an idea. You all know how your mind wanders. Well between thoughts of how bad I am playing and how I need better scores for the next AR, I thought about how some people were getting bored or frustrated with the MS versions intermediate. So I came up with an idea how to make it a little more exciting. Suicide-sweeper is the best I can come up with right now, but I didn't get much sleep, so it'll have to do. Here's the way it goes: Before each game, randomly flag one square. You can't change it. See how many games you can finish. If that sounds too easy, then go for the gusto and flag five or even six squares. Maybe even make a pattern with the flags. So, I am going to watch a movie or something...so let me know how it turns out.









Obviously this is for humor's sake out of boredom.

   
May 28th 2004 at 06:00:53 PM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Comments:  

Congratulations to all recordbreakers, although you're now in front of me in the best ever list, Roman... I better do something about that

I managed to get my third 55 sec tonight:
55.99 sec - 134 3BV - 2.44 3BV/sec

www.gymks.dk/lort/MTM-Exp-55,99-3BV134-2004may29-01.33.mvf

@Stephen: Sounds like a good idea, although I'll probably not be listed as high on that list because NF is not as fast in clearing high 3BV boards, on which you usually get your 3BV/sec records.

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May 28th 2004 at 04:56:59 PM
Name:  

Stephen Arnason

Comments:  

I am starting a best 3bv/s rate list, I want to know how fast the fastest are, and I think it is another good way of measuring speed. If this is a popular idea and a lot of people put it in (hopefully some top players will) then i think it would be a worthwhile list to have. Email me your best 3bv/s, along with your records, and if possible, videos. Thanks

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May 28th 2004 at 03:58:52 PM
Name:  

Dave Matson

Comments:  

Congratulations Roman!!! Must be a nice feeling!

   


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