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Mar 17th 2004 at 12:50:08 PM |
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Stevan |
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To all : Doh...I understand that timer starts at 1, but why adding second to final score, (e.g. 51.13 isnt 51.13 but 52.13). That makes no sense, because timer starts at 1 so we know if we finish game and 45 is shown, we know that we finished it IN 45 seconds, and not more, I think many agree with me that in clones and Sorin recorder time should start at zero, "old" rounded times we can count as sub41, sub42...etc. I'd love to see poll on addicts group about this, what do you all think?!? |
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Mar 17th 2004 at 11:37:08 AM |
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Jon S |
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I have only played the 0,75 version yet, so I'm not sure if all this still makes sense. Anyway, I've noticed that most games I finish is displayed with a time that ends with 0 or 5 (hundreths), and a few do not. I believe that all games should be displayed with a precision of half tenths or preferrably hundreths (but it seems that there's something strange with the rounding). I can add that I have these results from the beginner level. It also seems that the 3BV/sec in the file-name sometimes differ from the value showed when you play the video. I also have a couple of thoughts about the acceptance of times from the clone in rankings. I don't know how random the boards created with different versions are. I just have materials that suggested that the clone generated a much larger number of different beginner boards than the original sweeper. It also seemed not to follow the same kind of cyclic behaviour as the original. I used the cheat option of the game to search for boards with a 3BV of less than 3. After searching through about 800000 boards, it showed 8 boards that came up twice and 38 boards that came up once. I was just thinking that we should make sure that there are at least as many different boards that can be created in the clone as in the original. The best thing would of course be if the number is a lot greater, there is no board cycles or any other systematic behaviour and that it's more difficult to cheat (while in legal mode) than with the original. (I realized that it would be possible to use the cheat mode to identify all boards with low 3BV as long as these are few and then just memorize these nice boards.) OK. I'll test the 0.83 beta soon now. |
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Mar 17th 2004 at 10:31:17 AM |
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Martin Toft Madsen |
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Happy birthday from me too ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Mar 17th 2004 at 08:55:28 AM |
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Elmar |
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Happy Birthday from me too! @Roman: Could be true, Stephan and I were both born June 5th. ![]() |
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Mar 17th 2004 at 08:13:53 AM |
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Daniel |
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Despite being sad enough to wear green today, it looks like I'm exempt from being teased. Thanks Roli! ![]() ![]() |
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Mar 17th 2004 at 07:44:49 AM |
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Roman |
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@Stephan: my date of birth is 25/04/84 (as I know David Barry has the same date ![]() |
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Mar 17th 2004 at 07:30:27 AM |
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Dennis Lütken |
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Nice one, Stephan! ![]() And a happy birthday to both Roli and Rodrigo from me too! ![]() ![]() ![]() Roli, I would have placed your flag too but I don't remember where you're from! ![]() |
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Mar 17th 2004 at 05:38:36 AM |
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Stephan |
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If Roman had birthday today as well, I would have thought that everyone who plays minesweeper and whose name starts with "Ro" is born on 17/03. But as this is not the case, just: Happy birthday to Roli and Rodrigo! |
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Mar 17th 2004 at 04:24:52 AM |
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Georgi |
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Mar 17th 2004 at 03:21:38 AM |
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Roli |
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Happy birthday to you, Rodrigo, and my humble self. BTW: Greetings to all Irishmen who wear green right now for St. Patrick's Day. All others will be teased... ![]() |
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Mar 17th 2004 at 02:28:09 AM |
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Marko |
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Argh... Just missed a 23/24 with 2 simple clicks left... Because of my own stupidity. 45 sub-30's (last 30 of them with the clone) and only a single 26 to show for... that's just sad. |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 11:58:47 PM |
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Roman |
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@Rodrigo: I think it will be great if your clone could replay games in Sorin's format. |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 02:32:33 PM |
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Rodrigo |
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Hey, anything wrote between less than and greater than symbols does not appear in this gestbook... ![]() |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 02:30:40 PM |
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Rodrigo |
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@Stephan: sorry, I wrote '...set the naming as ...' (Level and IntTime, both between less than and greater than symbols), instead of '...set the naming as "" ... ' |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 02:25:07 PM |
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Rodrigo |
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@Dennis and Marko: that's right! Colon and other special characters are prohibited because of file names. I implemented this to avoid any error to appear due to wrongly filling in the file name. @Dennis: the file minesweeperclone.inf stores information about the last options set for the program to remember them in the next time it is called. This includes the records. Well, the records can be stored in a separate file as you imagined. But I think it is not THAT necessary. You just have to type a few things again, and even like that, only in some updates. In the latest, for example, you can get the file directly from the previous version and use it without problems. Also, I would love to see your 65 video! Can you e-mail me it? @Elmar: yes, I wrote the converter program today, at morning. But I am not making it available for download, for security reasons. You and anyone else may feel free to e-mail me any video file you want to convert, and I will send them back to you converted. @Dave Matson: good idea, I will implement the "Browse" button in the next version. @Stevan: no, there is no continuous board generation. In fact, I think there is no need for that. The board is generated when the first left click occurs (even if it is not possible to see it, I assure you of it). So, any memory reader will read a board on the memory that will not be the same board that will be actually played. @Stephan: there is no need to set up anything for the file numbering to happen. If the name of the file that is being saved already exists in the folder, then it will be saved with a "-02" after it. And numbering continues. Set recording to "always", set the namig as "" (the same convention you used in your intermed12.avi file) and manage to finish some beginner games in the same time, for example, 10 seconds. File names will be beginner10.mvf, beginner10-02.mvf, beginner10-03.mvf, etc. Tell me if it is not what you had in mind for this feature and I can modify it. @All: Well, the latest version is now 0.83 beta, and has some good new things. I hope you all like it. Oh, and feel free to send me your videos for conversion, if you want. I will soon convert the videos on the website also. Thanks. Rodrigo. |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 02:06:41 PM |
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Dennis Lütken |
Best expert: |
65x2!!! :-) |
Best intermediate: |
13 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
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I just got another 65 on expert... This one was on Rodrigo's clone and it was quite close to being a 64 as it was a 65.08! It was on a 130 3bv board and it certainly was a very nice board! When I was doing the upper right corner and saw that the timer was at 60/61 I knew that I could get a sub-70 so I tried to maintain my speed but not at the cost of messing up! AR scores so far: 14-65! QUITE NICE! ![]() |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 11:39:36 AM |
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Dave Morgan |
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As far as I can tell, with Sorin's program, when I flag a mine, keep the right button depressed, and then press the left button to double click, this is still recorded as a left click (as well as a double click). But it the clone it seems that this isn't recorded as a left click (I might be wrong, but my click/s is way down with the clone) I prefer it to be the way it is with Sorin's program, but I don't know what everyone else thinks |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 10:13:14 AM |
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Stephan |
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@Marko: I'm glad to read that I'm not the only one who thinks that Sorin's counter is perfect due to flexible placement and little effect of disturbing! I've often told Rodrigo that I would appreciate to have an identical built-in counter. @Rodrigo: nice that contiunous numbering of auto-save vids is implemented. Not nice that I can't find how to apply it. This variable is missing in the help file, as far as I see. |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 08:58:02 AM |
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Stevan |
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OK Marko you dont have to defend it, clicks/s can be shown after play for me too ![]() And Sorin saves just one file, actually it saves ALL games just once after you close sessions, so its just once and I can finish 1.000 games for that one save ![]() |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 08:39:11 AM |
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Marko |
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@Stevan: the clicks/s counter in Sorin's recorder doesn't update nearly as often as Rodrigo's... Besides, I can place Sorin's recorder anywhere I want to. I already said it's not a big deal if it stays like this. Do I need to defend my position in front of you? Why is the 'always' option disturbing you with the Clone and not with Sorin's recorder where it's permanently enabled? |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 08:25:04 AM |
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Stevan |
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Rodrigo I havent activated autorecording and it still saves videos, why?!? Btw threw out "Always" in autorecording options because probably nobody will ever use it ![]() |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 07:51:56 AM |
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Stevan |
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Why that clicks/s is disturbing you and Sorin counter/recorder not?!? |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 06:34:20 AM |
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Marko |
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@Dennis: The thing is.. I'd like to see the clicks/s after every game. I don't want to save the videos of all my glorious ![]() |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 06:01:00 AM |
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Stevan |
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@nobody : off course I didnt cheat, altough many still dont believe me ![]() @Rodrigo : have you implemented contineuos board generation (we can call it that way), I think board should be generated every 0.05s (50 ms), for modern processors its easy task ![]() |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 05:10:33 AM |
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Dave Matson |
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Rodrigo: Something that I forgot to mention a while ago. I think that it would be nice if one could choose the path for the autosave feature by using a "Browse" feature instead of typing it in. Also, the click/sec counter is a bit distracting, but that might just be me. Thanks! |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 05:07:11 AM |
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Elmar |
Best expert: |
57x2 clone: 59,11 |
Best intermediate: |
14 x2 clone: 15.17 |
Best beginner: |
1x2 clone: 3.35 restarting the rankings with the clone is fine by me ;-) |
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Cool, didn't know that worked. ![]() Btw Rodrigo, did you write that program to convert videos of old versions? I got two 59s on the old version, that I would really like to keep. If not, I guess I could just capture the videos with camtasia.... ![]() |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 05:00:15 AM |
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Dennis |
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Possible solution... play without the features and if you get a good game then save it... Then change the options to include all of those nice things and play the video... then you can see the click counters and time to tenths if you want to! ![]() |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 04:58:59 AM |
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Elmar |
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However for the videos I'd prefer it if the stats would be shown for the entire game. ![]() Man, we're not easy to satisfy (Sorry, Rod)! ![]() |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 04:56:31 AM |
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Elmar |
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Haven't tried the new version yet, but I think that would distract me too. I can't even play with the timer showing thenths of a sec.... ![]() |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 04:40:35 AM |
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Marko |
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Just saw the latest version... Tiny little request: would it be possible to include the option to only show the clicks/s counter after a game has been finished? It's really not a big deal, but watching those tiny numbers changing all the time while playing can be a bit distracting. If it doesn't bother anyone else, I can just drag the window down a bit so the counters get hidden below the taskbar ![]() |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 04:15:50 AM |
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Marko |
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@Dennis: a quote directly from XP's help... A file name cannot contain any of the following characters: \/:*?"| end of quote There's not much anyone could do about that. |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 03:26:39 AM |
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Dennis Lütken |
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Oh, forgot... Rodrigo, GREAT luck ( ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 03:24:02 AM |
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Dennis Lütken |
Best expert: |
65 |
Best intermediate: |
13 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
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@Rodrigo: WOW! ![]() ![]() ![]() I haven't tried Curtis' clone yet but I think I'll always prefer Rodrigo's simply because I had such a big influence in the whole process of 'making' and improving it! ![]() ![]() ![]() Still, I wouldn't mind it if Curtis' clone was accepted as well because some people might prefer that. So once his clone has been tested some then we could allow scores on that one too! ![]() |
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Mar 16th 2004 at 12:53:48 AM |
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nobody |
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@Stevan: did you cheat on that 41? did you ever explain yourself? |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 06:15:15 PM |
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Rodrigo |
Best intermediate: |
25 ( x4!!! ) |
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Hello everybody! Well, I really had som implements to make... here they are. The newest version is 0.82 beta. Just included some missing features. @Stevan and Dave Morgan: You were really asking for click counters for a long time. Now I finally included it. @Stephan: I made a good improvement in the naming function. Now it is possible to do any file convention, and there is also sequential numbering, as you asked. You had a really good idea! ![]() @All: do you really think that is it needed to add 3BV lower limits, just for precaution? If needed, does everybody agree with the values already suggested? And finally, on March 17 it is my birthday!! ![]() ![]() ![]() Please check the newest version out, please! Thanks. Rodrigo. |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 05:42:02 PM |
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Lance |
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I like both Curtis' and Rodrigo's clones, but agree about the recording functions being superior for Rodrigo's clone (not that Curtis couldn't fix this), and the fact that Rodrigo's has been pretty thoroughly tested with much input from the community (though I'm sure that Curtis, since he IS Bright, probably took suggestions from the guestbook the same way Rodrigo did). If it came down to it, and Curtis' clone got as much testing and attention as did Rodrigo's, and it withstood the testing challenges, I could see accepting two clones. Frankly, this seems unnecessary, but is certainly part of the blessing/curse of having two very good clones emerge at approximately the same time. I will likely keep playing Rodrigo's clone, but I appreciate the hard work and effort that Curtis has put forth, and I may catch myself playing a few games every now and then on his version. Anyway, that's my humble opinion ![]() Happy sweeping, Lance |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 01:54:47 PM |
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Dave Morgan |
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Is it just me, or is there still no clicks/second statistic in Rodrigo's clone? I thought he said he'd put that in now, but I still can't find it On the whole, I think I still prefer Rodgrigo's version, because of the way it records videos |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 01:03:06 PM |
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Manu |
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I suggest 2-25-90 to the limits for the 3BV of the boards. But as Lance said before, I'm not sure that lots of boards would come under those limits if 3BV stayed unlimited... |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 12:10:10 PM |
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Roman |
Best expert: |
54 --> 53 |
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One month I played to beat my best expert time again. When it happened it was not SO gaily because 5 hours before I finished magnificent game on a board with 3BV 230 in 70 sec (3BV/sec 3,31 - my new best). About new best time: it's easy board with 3BV 130, 3BV/s - 2,45, !!66 mines marked!! (75-80 is regular for me). http://gammel.pisem.net/scr/53-1.png - screenshot http://gammel.pisem.net/53-1.zip - txt-vid |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 11:38:51 AM |
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Kimmo |
Best expert: |
54 |
Best intermediate: |
15 |
Best beginner: |
2 |
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Dennis: I'm glad that you find 3-16-56 "that good". ![]() And other thing: I wish that the original minesweeper remains accepted for records along the clone(s). I still like it the best. |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 11:23:32 AM |
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Roli |
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@Curtis: I tried your clone today and have to admit that I like it better than Rodrigo's until now. It has no delay at all which makes it seriously playable for me and I personally like the statistics box better. So I'd like to see scores achieved with his clone comparable to original and Rodrigo's MS. What do you think? ![]() |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 10:09:52 AM |
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Daniel |
Best expert: |
69 -> 68 |
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Yippe... I don't have the 69 on video but did capture this 68. It was on a 146 3BV board. I'll send it to you, Dennis, along with a one click miss 69 on a 170 3BV board. Anyone else who's interested, email me. |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 09:03:43 AM |
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Dennis |
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Some mistakes in that last one, so let's try again: Anyone remember Xiaohu Zhang? He's in the best-ever list with times of 3-16-56... Now, I do remember him but I don't get how somebody that good could come along, submit times and write in the guestbook for a week or so only never to be heard from again! It seems rather strange to me... Is this something that happens often with people who are that good??? And by the way, my 2.65 3bv per sec was a 77.31 (I think) on a 202 3bv board! Got the vid if anyone wants it! ![]() |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 09:01:04 AM |
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Dennis Lütken |
Best expert: |
2.61 --> 2.65 3bv/s |
Best intermediate: |
3.45 3bv/s |
Best beginner: |
4.41 3bv/s |
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Anyone remember Xiaohu Zhang? He's in the best-ever list with times of 3-16-56... Now, I do remember him but I don't get how somebody that good could come along, submit times and write in the guestbook for a week or only never to be heard from again! It seems rather strange to me... ![]() |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 05:59:25 AM |
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Stephan |
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@Lance: yes it really seems that quasi-retirements help. On the other hand, I needed several hours to be back in speed when I play expert games. @Rodrigo: The auto-save option is nice, but I don't like the name convention. Me, I don't care about the time when I played the game. And the date can be seen out of the file date. Moreover I'd prefer self-chosen level names (beginner/intermed/expert) just to keep up my own name conventions. Finally, I would appreciate a possibility to get continuous numbers, such as intermed12-03.avi for my recent third int 12. Additionally, I agree with Stevan that clicks/sec would be a very nice feature! |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 05:34:25 AM |
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Stevan |
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Rodrigo, include clicks per second counters beside these, also click chart would be nice... In next versio I would like to see saves with different extensions so we will know what version was used to achieve the score( for 0.81 version *.m81 etc) |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 05:30:09 AM |
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Stevan |
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Dave, we could use subxx for old scores, so 41 is actually sub41, its logical that 43.32 is 43.32...or if you want 43.33 ![]() |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 05:07:26 AM |
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Dave Morgan |
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@Lance - IIRC the only way to get a 1 3bv board on the 8x8 boards is to click on a mine on your first click, so that the shift produces a 1 3bv board @Curtis - I'll download and try your clone later, because I'm not supposed to be online now, but be careful with Brightsoft, anyone remember Mike Rowe Soft? lol @Stevan - No-one is overly bothered about beginner, which is just look, and they'll be 1.01 second times anyway - it won't be any different to how it is now @Hosping - I don't think that changing the timer to 0 seconds is worthwhile, since it makes current times incompatable, and there isn't much point, since all times have the same 0 error (when you consider the way that the times are rounded it doesn't matter much anyway). Also, I think Damien has spoken to the creator of the game in the past @All - the question is, how similar do we want a clone to be to the original? There has been discussion for a long time about how we'd like to get rid of board cycling and shifts, and yet when we have a clone that potentially removes these, people have reservations about using it. But do we want to go further than this and have a clone that generates boards in an entirely different way, making them much more random and increasing the number of possible boards? I think that this would be a good idea, but I imagine a lot of people would object |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 03:13:25 AM |
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Name: |
Hopsing |
Best expert: |
114 |
Best intermediate: |
32 |
Best beginner: |
3 |
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Hi Beginner is always luck. Has anybody ever tried to contact the creator of minesweeper? He might say how the original minesweeper randomizer works. I think we should start the time @ 0 not 1. That is just logical. And we should use the exact times, not rounded up or down because we want exact scores. Bye Hopsing |
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Mar 15th 2004 at 01:41:05 AM |
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Stevan |
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OK but we'll then have 0.01s times which are just luck... |
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Mar 14th 2004 at 11:07:05 PM |
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Curtis Bright |
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Hello again everybody! I have just released the new and improved version of my old clone. I hope you guys can find the time to test it out and tell me what you think of it. I rewrote the entire game, optimizing everything. It runs very smooth, with no noticeable delay even on huge board sizes. (Although you will notice some delay when watching videos of huge board sizes.) There are some options that I didn't include because I wasn't sure how many people are actually going to use this clone. For example, changing the directory where the auto-save files are created. If very few people use my clone then there's no reason for me to implement this feature, so I want to see what you guys think of it first. And the auto-save options are pretty simple right now, but I think they are useful. And I personally really like viewing my game statistics in a spreadsheet. There are so many neat things you can do with the data in a spreadsheet! (Like sort all your games by 3BV/sec, or calculate your average expert time, or how many games you play a day...) The other things I thought were important in this version were accuracy and security. The timer now uses your system's highest-resolution counter for the best accuracy possible. And videos are encrypted to hopefully prevent any possibilities of fakes. I've given my clone a proper name now: "Minesweeper X". Designed for minesweeper eXperts... Also, I'm creating a worldwide high score ranking, and if you send me your high score videos I'll post your score. Since nobody is entered yet, you can get a top spot if you enter right away! I've thoroughly tested this clone for any bugs, but sometimes a few slip through. Please contact me if you think you've found anything. The new website is: http://members.shaw.ca/brightsoft/ (Instead of Microsoft it's Brightsoft... ![]() |
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Mar 14th 2004 at 05:20:55 PM |
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Name: |
Adam Claus |
Best expert: |
77----> 73 WHOA! |
Best intermediate: |
19 |
Best beginner: |
2 |
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94 Total now for Adam Claus From Canada please add me to the list of Sub-100 total players... i got screen shots for all my records if need b |
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Mar 14th 2004 at 02:06:03 PM |
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Dennis Lütken |
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Oh, I agree, Lance! I like Rodrigo's kind of mine shift better too... I was just saying that if people are so eager to make it like the original that would have to be taken care of too! ![]() |
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Mar 14th 2004 at 12:22:43 PM |
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Lance |
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@Stephan - wow! nice 12 int! I watched that video in awe. It seems like whenever you take a break/"retire", you always come back with some amazing score. Maybe I should try this "retirement" thing! ![]() @Stevan - There is some discussion about the possibilities of low 3BV games in the minesweeper addicts group, but I personally think - knowing a little about statistics, randomness, and probability - that worries about these sorts of problems are relatively unfounded. And then with my very limited knowledge of pseudo-random number generators and how they aren't very random, I think people might be getting worked up over a non-issue. But I don't profess to be an expert, so feel free to flame, expert! ![]() @Dennis - I like Rodrigo's random mine shifting better than automatically shifting the mine to the upper left corner. Why have random games with a non-randomly placed mine? Also, I'm not 100% certain, but I think there have been 1 3BV 8x8 beginner boards, too, but I have't taken the time to look at all that I know of to find an example. I'm a bit lazy right now ![]() Happy sweeping, all! Lance |
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Mar 14th 2004 at 12:11:24 PM |
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Name: |
Dan |
Comments: |
Active Ranking has been updated. |
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Mar 14th 2004 at 11:40:02 AM |
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Name: |
Stephan |
Comments: |
@Dennis: Follow the link... |
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Mar 14th 2004 at 08:45:27 AM |
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Name: |
Dennis Lütken |
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Actually 1 3bv boards do exist in the MS version... perhaps not in the old versions but they do in the 9x9 version! I know because I've had one with no mine in the upper left corner! ![]() ![]() @Stephan: 12 seconds on a 42 3bv board! WOW, that's amazing! You're still my int hero! ![]() ![]() |
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Mar 14th 2004 at 04:04:53 AM |
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Dave Morgan |
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Sorry Stevan, thats not true - beginner boards on the MS version never have 3bv < 2 before your first click, but they can if your first click is on a mine - this would need addressing in the clone if anyone actually cared about beginner before Never heard of an int board with a 3bv as low as 20 (maybe you have though), and I'm pretty sure people have had expert boards with 3bv < 100 (buy I could be wrong) |
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Mar 14th 2004 at 03:17:51 AM |
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Stevan |
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Rodrigo, be sure that 3bv limit is set 2 for beg, 20 for int, and 100 for exp boards. I think everybody agree with me, because then 0.01s beginner times will be impossible ![]() |
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Mar 13th 2004 at 11:34:15 PM |
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Stephan |
Comments: |
Just wanted to mention that, after I stopped playing at all for nearly a whole period, I played some games yesterday evening. And after a bunch of finished 19s and 2 lost 15s, I got my third 12(.92), with a personal 3BV record of 42. ![]() ![]() |
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Mar 13th 2004 at 02:57:42 PM |
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Name: |
Lance |
Comments: |
AR Update: I was about 10 minutes from completing the AR list to send to Dan when my computer froze, losing all of my work. I still have everyone's AR emails, no problem there, but I thought I'd explain why the AR isn't posted yet. ![]() Happy sweeping, Lance |
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Mar 13th 2004 at 11:16:46 AM |
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Name: |
Dennis Lütken |
Comments: |
Oh forgot... CONGRATS to you Daniel! 69 seconds on a 175 3bv board is very nice... I've gotten a 70 on a board with a 3bv around there but my 65 was on a 109 3bv board... ![]() Anyway, I would very much like to see the video of your 69, please. Thanks! ![]() |
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Mar 13th 2004 at 11:14:19 AM |
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Name: |
Dennis Lütken |
Comments: |
Lasse: I don't think you need to reset them... I'm sure you can easily beat them! ![]() |
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Mar 13th 2004 at 08:04:15 AM |
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Name: |
Daniel |
Best expert: |
70 -> 69 |
Comments: |
Finally. I was on the phone when I missed a 50/50 ending for 68 seconds on a 125 3BV. 2 boards later, and still on the phone, I finished in 69 seconds- on a 175 3BV board. Now that's a bit weird. Is that the highest 3BV record board for people here? I'll take it nevertheless. |
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Mar 13th 2004 at 07:56:26 AM |
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Marsh8472 |
Comments: |
Ok I updated the bot player. It's faster, smarter, and has more options. You can say it's not formidable but I think you'd be ![]() |
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Mar 13th 2004 at 06:28:21 AM |
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Name: |
Daniel Lynch |
Best expert: |
70 x 6 |
Comments: |
I really thought I had it beaten when I looked up at the timer and it said 63. Of course I awkwardly stumbled through the last few squares to get another 70. It becomes tedious now. ![]() |
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Mar 13th 2004 at 06:03:20 AM |
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Name: |
Rodrigo |
Comments: |
Hahahaha ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Mar 13th 2004 at 04:47:12 AM |
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Name: |
Lasse Nyholm |
Comments: |
Rodrigo: when I download the 0.81-beta it has Dennis Lütkens highscores in it. Off course I can just reset the highscore, but it seems a bit strange. Lanyjé |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 07:58:10 PM |
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Name: |
Rodrigo |
Comments: |
I am extremely sorry for this problem, Dennis!! ![]() I fixed this problem and added a text file explaining in details how to use the Auto Recording options. Also added a preview for the file name, for everybody to see how is the name of their videos being created. Sorry for the problem, anyway. |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 06:02:19 PM |
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Name: |
Elmar |
Comments: |
Crap, forgot to send in my scores for the AR (58-17) |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 05:50:17 PM |
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Name: |
Martin Toft Madsen |
Comments: |
Some things about the clone: 1) If you hit play/pause fast several times while playing the video the cursor stops but the timer continues (no big problem, though) 2) I think somebody has asked this before, but is it possible to leave the stats from the prior game in the stats part of the window, so untill you finish/lose the new game you have the stats from the prior game? 3) If you have finished a game and change the options (name in the video for instance) and haven't started a new game, is it possible to save the video again with the new settings? (I just finished my first exp game with the clone - 73 sec, 197 3BV - but hadn't set the name in the video savings window ![]() 4) Could it be possible to change the way the date are written in the name, e.g. 13mar2004, 2004.03.13, etc. Else I must say that you have done a very good job Rodrigo ![]() |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 04:47:35 PM |
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Name: |
Dennis Lütken |
Best expert: |
65 |
Best intermediate: |
13 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
Rodrigo: I'm pretty MAD right now! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The reason for this is that I just got a new clone record on int... It was a 14.56 second game on a 33 3bv board! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 02:42:37 PM |
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Name: |
Dennis Lütken |
Comments: |
Just so you all know... I don't expect anyone else to have had this problem because you have to finish more than 1500 games on a certain level before the history file f*cks up! ![]() |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 02:40:06 PM |
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Name: |
Dennis Lütken |
Comments: |
@Rodrigo: my history file has gone crazy once again! ![]() ![]() |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 10:04:15 AM |
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Name: |
Matti Halme |
Best expert: |
77 |
Best intermediate: |
18 -> 17 (3BV 30) |
Best beginner: |
2 |
Comments: |
I´m quite eager to find out what has happened lately. Perhaps I´m just once and again confused after playing Minesweeper couple of times, making a new record and visiting this site after a break that lasted at least few months |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 09:37:00 AM |
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Name: |
Manu |
Comments: |
I agree with Elmar about what he just said. |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 09:30:55 AM |
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Name: |
Fernando Cobacho |
Best expert: |
70 |
Best intermediate: |
21 |
Best beginner: |
3 |
Comments: |
Hi everybody. I am new in these forums, although I have been playing on and off for over 2 years. I wish to be included in your rankings, but first I would like to know if times are updated often. Regards and good luck to everybody. |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 08:59:38 AM |
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Name: |
Elmar |
Comments: |
I thought the clone uses the same algorithm to create boards as the original. The only difference is that the random number generator is initialized before every game to avoid cycling. ![]() If so, I don't think we have to be afraid of boards that are very different from the original ones.... |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 08:28:48 AM |
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Name: |
Martin Toft Madsen |
Comments: |
I agree with Christoph and Roman. We have to be sure there won't be any of those boards. Since you can search for the 3BV of a board, isn't it possible to search for instance 10^15 (or some other very large amount) boards and see what's the lowest 3BV that shows up. About the distribution of mines on the board, I can only say that it would probably be a very good thing to know how the program distributes the mines... ![]() |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 07:52:33 AM |
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Name: |
Roman |
Comments: |
Guys, I share doubts which Christoph Marx wrote three times in minesweeper-addicts group. I only can give an examples of unreasonableness of faster acceptance of the clone. If you don't like my previous example I can give another one: for some players (for me and maybe for some others) higher 3BV/sec is reached on boards with higher 3BV. That's situation - x mines are placed near board border so they are actually not in game, other 99-x mines are placed in very simple order (without small openings, but with one large opening at the board border - board is divided into two parts): 0x00x0 000000 (x - mine, 0 - "1") 000000 0x00x0 000000 For example 3BV is 120. It's very easy board, but it's 3BV "density" is very high, so 3BV/sec is high. Of course Lasse could finish it with 3BV/sec greater than 4,00, even I could finish it with 3BV/sec greater than 3,00. So we have Lasse's 30 sec and my 40 sec. Is it fair to other players who was not so lucky? Now we have "10%" luck and "90%" technique in total success, by using clone this numbers could change to "50%":"50%". Please don't find fault with this specific example, but WE DON'T KNOW WHAT BOARDS CAN BE GENERATED BY THE CLONE!!! I agree that the clone is very comfortable to play, and its time counter is fair, but maybe generation system is unfair. So guys, you have the majority, so you must decide. It's only my opinion to keep on tests. |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 05:51:25 AM |
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Name: |
Rodrigo |
Comments: |
Hi again, everybody! ![]() Well, I finally got some time for updates. As I promised, now it is available for download the version 0.8 beta of my clone. The main updates are an improved naming for auto-saved videos. As Katy suggested, now it is fully customizeable, and can be entered by typing, instead of choosing a pre-defined model. Also, Jon's great idea of a logical expression for conditinally saving is there. As default, I left the conditions requested by Detrusor, so that you can change to your preferred ones. I have been e-mailing Sorin, and he gave me good ideas about the security of the files. I changed the file format one more time. Sorry again, but videos from previous versions are incompatible. ![]() Anyway, I will try to build a program to convert videos from previous to the actual version, so that you can e-mail me the videos you want me to convert. Maybe this can fix the inconvenient. I hope you all like the newest modifications! ![]() Rodrigo. |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 05:26:07 AM |
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Name: |
lukasz malinowski |
Comments: |
johnatan, it's only a matter of time for you to have better times, maybe you should work on your strategy. i haven't played recently and been dropped out of AR, but now my curreny best times are 48 and 17. good sweeping to all. |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 05:14:10 AM |
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Name: |
David Barry |
Comments: |
It makes no sense to put restrictions on expert 3BV. There are no known repeat boards on expert. |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 05:07:30 AM |
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Name: |
blindmage (neil moledzki |
Comments: |
hey everyone, just thought i'd let you all know about my store, selling minesweeper stuff. Damien and I made the logo last year, and i've sold a bit. hope you guys like it, if you have any more ideas, e-mail me and put Mine sweeper in the subjec |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 04:48:08 AM |
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Name: |
Dennis Lütken |
Comments: |
3bv... not 3bv per sec, of course! ![]() |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 04:47:21 AM |
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Name: |
Dennis Lütken |
Comments: |
Roman, if that is your problem then I don't really think we have a problem... All we have to agree on is that we won't accept times on int boards with a 3bv lower than 23 (the lowest I've heard of (and had myself) on int in the MS version) and 87 on expert or whatever the lowest known 3bv per sec is in the MS version! ![]() |
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Mar 12th 2004 at 02:53:08 AM |
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Name: |
Dave Morgan |
Comments: |
In theory you can get an expert board with a 3bv of 5 (or even 1), but whether or not the pseudo random way in which boards are generated allows it is an entirely different question (to which I don't know the answer, but I'd guess its not possible) Also, the links at the top of the '03 stats page on the AR site are wrong - all apart from the last one take you to '04 stats |
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Mar 11th 2004 at 11:53:57 PM |
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Name: |
Roman |
Comments: |
Dennis, you can get expert board with 3BV 5 and of course you solve it in 5 seconds, possibility of such situation is low. Of course you will achieve rank 1, because of low possibility maybe during one year one player will finish one game and I can agree to accept it to AR, but it's madness to accept such results to "best ever". |
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Mar 11th 2004 at 04:43:31 PM |
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Name: |
Lance |
Comments: |
I would to extended my sincerest sympathies to my minesweeping friends from Spain and the rest of Europe for the horrific al-Qaida terrorist attacks in Madrid. It's true that evil knows no borders ![]() ![]() |
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Mar 11th 2004 at 03:40:55 PM |
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Name: |
Dennis Lütken |
Best expert: |
65 |
Best intermediate: |
13 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
Roman, I think it should be either or! If we after it for one thing we have to accept it for both because who would want to play the clone and 'risk' breaking their record without having this counted in the best-ever list... After all, it's by no means an advantage to play the clone so why shouldn't we accept these scores? I really don't get that! ![]() |
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Mar 11th 2004 at 01:29:51 PM |
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Name: |
Jonathan Black |
Best expert: |
108 |
Best intermediate: |
25 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
how is everyone getting a 75 on expert? i wish i could do that. my beginner and intermediate times are good, but i can never get below 100 on expert. |
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Mar 11th 2004 at 11:45:00 AM |
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Name: |
Roman |
Comments: |
Sorry, link to video in my previous post doesn't work. I produced avi http://gammel.pisem.net/video/203BV440.avi. If anybody want *.txt file I can e-mail it. |
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Mar 11th 2004 at 10:04:24 AM |
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Name: |
David Morgan |
Best expert: |
64 (still) |
Best intermediate: |
15 (still) |
Best beginner: |
2 (still) |
Comments: |
My AR times - 18-88 (worst ever for me, I think I've only submitted one 18 before, and nothing worse than 75, I could be wrong though) Since I'm going home tomorrow I think I'm in with a good chance of getting the biggest jump in rank and/or time next period ![]() Last time I came back home from uni my expert time went from 69 to 67 to 64 pretty quickly, so lets hope I can do it again |
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Mar 11th 2004 at 09:44:42 AM |
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Name: |
Roman |
Best intermediate: |
3BV/sec --> 4,40 |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Screenshot: http://gammel.pisem.net/scr/203BV440.png Video: http://gammel.pisem.net/txt/203BV440.txt About clone: I have the same question - is there any restrictions on 3BV? Or we should rename "Minesweeper Best Ever Players" to "Minesweeper Most Lucky Ever Players"? I voted "no", I think that clone should be accepted for Active Ranking, but we couldn't accept it to "best ever". |
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Mar 11th 2004 at 09:10:41 AM |
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Name: |
Active Ranking |
Comments: |
**** Deadline Friday @ 20:00 GMT/ 3pm EST **** |
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Mar 11th 2004 at 08:56:25 AM |
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Name: |
Stephen Arnason |
Best intermediate: |
16 |
Comments: |
@Rodrigo: I downloaded Lasse's videos, and i played them and for some reason when it got down the the last square, instead of the video showing him click the last square, the mouse pointer froze and there was 1 3bv left to go, and the timer kept going. I thought this was rather strange. |
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Mar 11th 2004 at 08:10:40 AM |
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Name: |
Gustaf Forsman |
Comments: |
I got the divison by zero error after playing some videos and then started a new game |
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Mar 11th 2004 at 08:09:14 AM |
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Name: |
Roli |
Comments: |
@Rodrigo: I also get the 6 and the 11-error. Do you think that the xp-lag will mean the same problem (being too fast), i.e. will it be fixed with it in the next version. I did outrun Camtasia with Sorin's recorder so I won't be able to record the lag. But it's always about 2 secs time after I started a new game until the board shows the opened squares I clicked a moment before. If I hit a mine it's getting worse, because I think the program has to deal with my remaining clicks before it starts a new game. I hope you can understand what I mean. Regards, Roli... |
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Mar 11th 2004 at 06:06:31 AM |
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Name: |
Elmar |
Best expert: |
Clone: 59.68->59.11 |
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The second time I got 2 sub60s in one day. ![]() Should've been another 57 but I missed a square... ![]() |
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Mar 11th 2004 at 03:01:11 AM |
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Name: |
Georgi |
Comments: |
One of the options in Curtis clone is to load .MRB files (board layouts generated with Minesweeper Reader). This option can be developed in a way that any board picture - .PNG, .JPG, .GIF, .BMP, etc.(Minesweeper window only) to be loadable. Especialy useful if you want to play somebody's great board or to replay some of yours. The alternative - to be used board editor is too clumsy ... and you will definately learn the board until edit it entirely ![]() |
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