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Jan 22nd 2004 at 03:32:12 PM |
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Traian |
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My best expert is 72x2. Why? |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 03:29:16 PM |
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Stevan |
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Lasse would you send me your 41,2X42,missed on last click 39, and highest 3bv/s (4.4) vids on mail?!? |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 03:25:16 PM |
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Stevan |
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Whats your exp?!? |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 03:19:51 PM |
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Name: |
Traian |
Best intermediate: |
17 -> 13!!! |
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Oh my God, I got the dreamboard!!! ![]() How lucky can one be? I mean I only played for an hour or so today, and in 5 different sessions. I don't even like intermediate, I was just trying to get a decent time for the active ranking. The best I got today was a lousy 22. I was on my way out, when I decided to play for just 5 more minutes. And after 8 minutes or so of unfinishing intermediate games, came the moment of magic... I clicked exactly where you're supposed to when you want to recognize the dreamboard and after one second I knew that was a chance of a lifetime. And I played like crazy. Well, not exactly like crazy, because you can obtain a better time than 13 from the dreamboard. Anyway, I was afraid of screwing it up and maybe I slowed down a bit. And you have my word, I held my breath all through my glorious 13 seconds... If you're wondering about my huge leap from 17 to 13, don't. It's pure luck to get the dreamboard, right? But my luck doesn't stop here. When Curtis released his first version of Minesweeper, I played 15-20 times the dreamboard, and I managed to get a 10. Now that I think of it, it was pure training. Training for that one game of sweet sweeping triumph ![]() Jeez, I wrote too much, I'm turning into Dennis! ![]() OK, any comments? Just let me know. I got the txt, and I got the txt recording of the whole 8 minute session, so that you'll notice that this was no planned game. Bye. |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 02:44:22 PM |
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Stevan |
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A-ha...I ve heard from Georgi for that congress (7 people). Why they didnt get such decision?!? I pretty much believe in Matt 10s, but in this...no. |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 02:40:59 PM |
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Stephan |
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@Stevan: Steffen's 9 is not accepted, as it was played with prior knowledge, planned strategy and with the knowledge that the DB appears in the upcoming came (but human performance, no machine). But as there was no final decision of the Minesweeper Congress, Georgi silently put it into the bestever lists (same with Roland's 9 and, to some extent, Matthew's 12 and my 11). |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 02:10:26 PM |
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Gustaf |
Comments: |
How do I know when to update active ranking? |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 01:47:57 PM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
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Gustaf and me played 3 games with this multiplayer sweeper and it's tough to sweep (not allowed fast clicking). But interesting anyway. |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 01:35:55 PM |
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Gustaf Forsman |
Best expert: |
75 |
Best intermediate: |
24 -> 22 |
Best beginner: |
2 |
Comments: |
Finnaly my total score with the MS-version is 99!!!! Weeeeee |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 01:15:43 PM |
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Stevan |
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Yeah, multiplayer is always more fun than single, off course, and you forgot Wolfenstein ![]() ![]() |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 12:59:11 PM |
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Gustaf Forsman |
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Yeah. Outlaw rocked, so did Doom, Quake and Heretic to. But I think this multiplayer part where u are a team is much more fun. Well enough chatting about other stuff than minesweeper here, aight ![]() ![]() |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 12:55:47 PM |
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Stevan |
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Yes, but it's not real at all(physics etc). If you remember before 6-7 years there was a shooter "wild west" game called Outlaw. That was a game ![]() |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 12:53:06 PM |
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Gustaf Forsman |
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Stevan, CS is a very nice game when u play in a clan and making taccs and stuff. Anyway I'm on quakenet, my nick is ec`SHy and u can find me in #east-coast and #clan-nature |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 11:57:27 AM |
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Stevan |
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I'll download MiRC. what server tu use on Mirc and what is your nick?!? Btw I tried CStrike and don't like it, stupid shooter ![]() ![]() ![]() But many kids like to play it, so it is pretty popular. |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 11:52:50 AM |
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Gustaf Forsman |
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Ehh.. I don't see any servers but I can see that it's 2 players online :/ Well we can try l8er.. Got icq, msn or mirc? I'm going 2 play some counterstrike now! ![]() |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 11:47:50 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Best expert: |
41 |
Best intermediate: |
12 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
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I use 1024x768@32 bit, classical resolution. And I've seen 9s Steffn int video. It's obviously a fake done by some other program, just loaded board and then played. And it's accepted ![]() |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 11:40:35 AM |
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Stevan |
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And maybe you've got to setup teams Gustaf. |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 11:31:08 AM |
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Stevan |
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Funny thinking Dave, automatically I can see his IP if he starts server, so I dont know why I asked him for it. |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 11:29:19 AM |
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Dave Morgan |
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OMFG! Don't give him your IP, he's going to try and hack you! l337 hax0rz! Sorry, thought I was in the lounge of the gamedev.net forums (it really is a funny place) Seriously though, what resolution and colour(8/16/32 bit) do you all use? |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 11:25:58 AM |
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Stevan |
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I'll start my server now...try to join it. |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 11:22:37 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
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Error on connect...check if you have firewall(zonealarm or so) turned on. Turn it off for this game. |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 11:18:27 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Comments: |
OK, here I come |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 11:14:14 AM |
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Name: |
Gustaf Forsman |
Comments: |
81.224.227.251 |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 10:46:54 AM |
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Stephan |
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@Martin: That was my main impulse to beat my 55 - not to be overtaken by you, Grzegorz, Kimmo, and Sebastian. Especially you as nf, but now, you're free to go down to 53 in my opinion ![]() |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 10:46:52 AM |
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Stephan |
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@Martin: That was my main impulse to beat my 55 - not to be overtaken by you, Grzegorz, Kimmo, and Sebastian. Especially you as nf, but now, you're free to go down to 53 in my opinion ![]() |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 10:45:59 AM |
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Stevan |
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OK, create server and tell me IP number. |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 10:13:51 AM |
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Gustaf Forsman |
Best expert: |
76 |
Best intermediate: |
24 |
Comments: |
Stevan: I wanna try it ![]() |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 09:45:34 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
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http://www.worldminesweepernetwork.com/ And again, nobody interested for multiplayer mines ![]() |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 09:41:11 AM |
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Dave Matson |
Best expert: |
111 |
Best intermediate: |
32 |
Best beginner: |
5 |
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Hey everyone! I'm just wondering, how many hours of sweeping do you guys do a day (on average). I haven't really been able to decrease my times, but then again, I havent' been able to play very much either. Thanks for your replies, in advance. |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 08:38:15 AM |
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Martin Toft Madsen |
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Congratulations Stephan! Way to go! I really feel that you're the right one to get a a new record, since you've been stuck on 55 like forever. I remember when I first saw this site and my record was 81 and you were on 55 ![]() Hopefully I'll also break my record soon. I feel like it could be done, but right now I'm not playing very much due to a lot of school work. Good luck and happy sweeping! ![]() |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 04:53:41 AM |
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Stephan |
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Correction: I just watched my vid again - of course, there was only one lucky guess in the end, but another one after 21 seconds in the right bottom corner. |
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Jan 22nd 2004 at 04:45:31 AM |
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Stephan |
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Thanks to all the congratulations! @Steffen: vermutlich dauert's wieder 586 Tage ![]() @Stevan: The nf list on expert is now (as already mentioned by Steffen and Elmar): 1. Eduardo Cros/Vincent Yeh 50; 3. Stephan Bechtel 52; 4. Mike Lowder 53; 5. Martin Toft Madsen 55; 6. Lasse Nyholm 56. Georgi or someone else, please tell me if I forgot anyone. @Elmar: Of course, this could have easily been a 51. But with two lucky guesses in the end, I'm happy that I finished at all. Would really have been crap if I lose this game by unlucky guessing. Btw, I'm glad that I used my normal strategy. On such guessing situations, I decided some time ago that I always click on the square that is not the one near the border. Even if it's nice to be #13 now, I think that the 51 Stevan Gvozdenovic provided below should be accepted. It doesn't show any mystery to me. But maybe some flaggers should judge. If anyone is interested in my updated statistics or in my 14/46 from yesterday, check out the updated minesweeper section of my website. |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 11:43:46 PM |
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Name: |
Lance |
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Stephan!! Nice job on whooping your old expert record! Wow, I am now competing against a whole new league of talent... I hope MY sub-55 comes soon, though it would appear it isn't on the way ![]() Happy sweeping, all! Lance |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 10:27:15 PM |
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Name: |
Dion |
Comments: |
Hello, is that really your name? ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 08:16:12 PM |
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Name: |
dion |
Comments: |
hi everyone ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 08:16:02 PM |
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Name: |
dion |
Comments: |
hi everyone ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 06:59:13 PM |
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Elmar |
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Glückwunsch Stephan! Too bad you hesitated that long on the last click. Would've sucked to blow that one on the last click though. Really nice video, it convinced me that I should stick to Flagging. ![]() Well, I hope it's my turn now. ![]() Sweep on! ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 05:54:33 PM |
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Grzegorz |
Best expert: |
55 |
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i haven't playing since 12th december. I played 2 hours today and i've finished only 5 boards with a best time 71. I will stop playing minesweeper forever if I will not finish an expert board below 65 seconds toomorow. Btw. good luck everybody and happy sweeping ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 03:28:53 PM |
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Stevan |
Best expert: |
41 |
Best intermediate: |
12 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
http://www.worldminesweepernetwork.com/ Hi, this is site with a multiplayer game, somebody wants a challenge?!? I think I can compete "even" with Lasse, Lasse do you accept challenge?!? |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 03:02:11 PM |
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Name: |
Elmar |
Comments: |
...and Eduardo Cros! ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 02:45:39 PM |
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Name: |
Steffen Stachna |
Best expert: |
51 |
Comments: |
Fastest nf video is a 50 sec video asaf by vincent(schiess mich tot)... ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 02:41:07 PM |
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Name: |
Steffen Stachna |
Best expert: |
51 |
Comments: |
Gut, dass ich meinen Rekord noch verbessern konnte ![]() Ne, im Ernst, echt n klasse Video/klasse Spiel, wirst du wohl noch n paar von machen, wie ich dich kenne!!! Glückwunsch!!! |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 02:37:37 PM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
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Btw what's the fastest NF on int and expert?!? |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 02:36:58 PM |
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Name: |
Manu |
Comments: |
Congrats Stephan, it's a really nice video ! ![]() ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 01:52:24 PM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Comments: |
Worked for me. |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 01:51:47 PM |
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Name: |
Stephan |
Best expert: |
52 |
Comments: |
Seems as my link below doesn't really work?! New attempt in this post. |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 01:44:13 PM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Comments: |
Good one ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 01:40:20 PM |
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Name: |
Stephan Bechtel |
Best expert: |
55 --> 52 |
Comments: |
Maybe, after the whole Stevan discussion, it's not the best moment today, but I must say, I'm VERY happy of having done a 52 on a 3BV 131 (of course nf)! Probably, the reason was some adrenaline after getting an int 14/46 five minutes before. 586 days had to pass since I broke my expert record for the last time. Video is available behind the Website link. So, I can use at least one of those nervous green smilies: ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 01:23:28 PM |
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Daniele |
Comments: |
Ok...i've seen it...i don't think it's a fake. It depends a lot from framerate, but, i repeat, it doesn't look a fake. Sorin, if you read here please answer: how can a video for player be faked? Last clicks are slow, it's true, but it also happens to me often when i think i'm beating my record. ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 01:10:53 PM |
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Stevan |
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I've checked it now, it's valid. copy paste all from [http to txt] in your browser or download manager and it will ask you to open it or save it. ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 01:08:13 PM |
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Daniele |
Comments: |
Sorry...i can't download your video...it says me no valid url! |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 01:03:52 PM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Comments: |
Well...at least I think so ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 01:00:53 PM |
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Name: |
Daniele |
Best expert: |
65*2 |
Best intermediate: |
17 |
Best beginner: |
2 |
Comments: |
How many bad words....i think too much people can't accept that someone can beat or tie Lasse. Why shouldn't it happen? I haven't still seen the video, i'll look at it later, but i've read too many bad things here.... don't you think? ![]() ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 12:52:07 PM |
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Stevan |
Best expert: |
41 |
Best intermediate: |
12 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
OK, Martin, thanks ![]() Finally some good words on this forum ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 12:49:33 PM |
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Martin Toft Madsen |
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Dennis, Write this in notepad and save as *.reg and open it afterwards: ----------- REGEDIT4 [HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMicrosoftwinmine] "Time2"=dword:d ----------- ![]() ![]() Now that video seems more genuine Stevan ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 11:52:49 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Best expert: |
41 |
Best intermediate: |
12 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
Huh...played all day and I finished 148 3bv/board in 51.33, no NF. Here is the vid http://www.securityguardmn.com/51s.txt |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 10:58:28 AM |
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Name: |
Daniel Lynch |
Best intermediate: |
18 -> 17 |
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Sorry to interrupt the arguement. I just broke my inter record from 2002. Progress comes slow here ![]() Secondly, would anyone be interested in looking at 2 recent sub-80s (exp. obviously) and giving some comments on my playing style? I'd really appreciate it swince I've only learned how to use the recorder facility. And lastly, where can one download this 41-sec game? I can't seem to find it on yahoogroups. For the above, please feel free to email me. Thanks |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 10:48:20 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Best expert: |
41 |
Best intermediate: |
12 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
OK, Lasse, that's fair said. I'll do it, I'm sure. Probably not soon 41, but some kind of 45-50 I'm sure I can do very soon. For Sorin. I've tried many hours to play with minesweeper reader and here are my opinions: 1. It's almost impossible to mem. whole exp board, even Int, even with very low 3bv, I tried and I couldn't. Maybe that explains manu's thinking that I'm stupid tough ![]() 2. I tried playing with it on expert just memorizing first few clicks, more clicks I cant memorize and I lose myself in board. With such style of play I could have good opening of every board, but overall it can't give me more than 1-2 second. 3. This program is too slow, it needs 15s to read a board, so I quit it cause usual way I have about 15 times more tries, and can faster find low 3bv board ![]() And sorry for disturbing, people, if you don't believe me just ignore my posts, or tell me to quit posting here ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 10:35:35 AM |
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Lasse Nyholm |
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Well, I think I'll give the same advice, someone gave someone not too long ago, someone claiming a 1 on a 8 3BV beginner board. Give us something we CAN believe, stop trying to lecture us about how many clicks one CAN do in a second and how lucky one CAN be. I think it's fair to say, that most of us believe that we as a community knows pretty much what there is to know about minesweeper, and how fast and how...... So simply, if you are for real, come back when you get a score with sufficient evidence, that looks like a real game. We'll be right here, waiting.... Lanyjé |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 10:32:32 AM |
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Stevan |
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So I DO cheat on exp. and germans dont do it on int. is it like this after you?!? Doh...I fake pics, I fake Camtasia and Sorin vids, I fake mines on Lady Di' site...I fake everything ![]() ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 10:29:34 AM |
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Name: |
Detrusor |
Best expert: |
73 |
Best intermediate: |
22 |
Best beginner: |
3 |
Comments: |
too late Stevan... When you cheat once, how could you prove that it was only once ? I think that you should not be trusted anymore |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 10:21:20 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Best expert: |
41 |
Best intermediate: |
12 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
No prob, Lasse, but what I can do for comunity so you will believe me?!? ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 10:18:08 AM |
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Name: |
Lasse Nyholm |
Comments: |
Stevan, it doesn't really matter how many guesses you made or how lucky you were or whether or not you faked - what's happening is that nobody buys your story and nobody believes you played that game fair, so nobody will count that score as a record. The way things work here is that we trust eachother or we don't. That's why I (for example) could probably come here and state a new record, even if I for some reason didn't have a video or even a screenshot, because people trust me, because I (and most other guys here) have proven worthy of the community's trust through several years. So as it is, nobody believes you, because nobody trusts you. Sorry. Lanyjé |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 09:52:21 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Comments: |
Well that was not just "guesses"... and 25 is big number, I don't think it was over 10-15 real guesses. |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 09:48:40 AM |
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Name: |
Elmar |
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You can't assume a constant probability of 0.79 for one thing. Secondly you can't assume the "a priori probability" at all. (Don't know if that's a term in english) Many of the guesses you took were 50/50s. To the 25th power this gets closer to 1 in a million than 1 in a hundred.... Georgi, you're right this is getting boring. ![]() I'm gonna sweep some mines! ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 09:35:51 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Comments: |
What messageboard?!? When I sum up all topics on your "messageboard" it's not even 50 ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 09:25:50 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Comments: |
What's wrong with probability?!? If you have about 79% probability of something, 20 times in row it's 0.79*0.79*... and it's about 1% at the end isn't it so?!? I am no more than stupid?!? You wanna bet that I can't solve Exp sub50?!? |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 09:18:19 AM |
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Name: |
Manu |
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When Stevan is talking about minesweeper I find him no more than stupid, but when he's trying to calculate probabilities, he's getting pathetic... If such a guy wanted to post on a site that was seriously updated ( like this one : http://www.planete-demineur.com/phpBB2/index.php ) his messages would be erased before being read by anyone, it would avoid people to loose their time. |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 09:11:35 AM |
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Name: |
Martin Toft Madsen |
Comments: |
Btw Dennis, I look at your problem later (if no one else has solved it then) ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 08:40:00 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Comments: |
Hehe, you feel hit ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 08:33:22 AM |
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Name: |
Martin Toft Madsen |
Comments: |
Yes, Stevan starts in the corner, and so do I, but that doesn't say much anyway. I can tell you why two Germans have such good scores on int: They both knew the board before they played it. Their "real" records are (as far as I remember) 12 and 15. Don't ask why their records are accepted, there has been no solution of this problem yet ![]() And don't drag partially solved boards into the discussion, it doesn't lead anywhere. I have had an est. 47 after half the board was solved, but the main reason for these great est. times are, that you have started solving the part of the board that is easiest to solv. Besides: Yes, all of our Danish int records are completely fake. I have actually never done a sub20 ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 07:22:08 AM |
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Name: |
Dennis Lütken |
Comments: |
Ditto, Georgi! |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 06:55:56 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Comments: |
Georgi, check mail, I've requested some vids from you ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 06:40:26 AM |
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Name: |
Georgi |
Comments: |
I am bored and tired ... |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 06:38:28 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Comments: |
And Dion, I almost always start from the corner, Martin knows it ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 06:36:25 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Comments: |
5. OK, 51 and 59, it changed ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 06:30:21 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Best expert: |
41 |
Best intermediate: |
12 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
1. Computer program would solve it all, NF, in probably 1s, with NO errors as I understand computers. 2. 7clk/s is possible if you almost dont think, possible is even 9 (just for few seconds though) 3. About memorizing, I would go to memorize int. board which is much easier to memorize and solve it in 7-8s, why would I go for expert?!? 4. http://links.tanis.dk/index.php3?more=4 Very interesting link I found (Denmark). Maybe it explains some good scores from Denmark (especially intermed.) ![]() 5. How you can believe 2 Germans can finish int. in 9s when there expert times are 55 and 67? ![]() I've solved int. 12 when I was 52-53 on exp. as I remember, and I tried about one million times. Before that 2 times 14, no 13 time on int. 6. About luck, somebody here wrote there were 20 lucky guesses. Well, exp. board have 480 fields and 99 mines, so there is 381/480 probability there is no mine. Multiply it 20 times and you've got 101.467, so it happens 1 out of 101 games, and I started 101.000 of them, OK maybe not so many but still... |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 06:08:50 AM |
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Sorin |
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I have no doubt that this is a fake. Unfortunatelly my program is not so advanced and can be tricked in a few ways ![]() I tried once to memorize a board(on a minesweeper clone) and I managed to finish it in 27 seconds(nf). It looks pretty much like this one, except the last part. The main difference is that I only made the clicks I needed, no extras. Here we have a whole bunch of useless clicks - I don't know why. I don't really care how it was done, but any right minded person would agree that this is a fake. I don't think a solver was used. More likely a minesweeper clone was created and the board memorized. Stephan, the Recorder reads the time from the Minesweeper window, so if that one goes slow it cannot be traced. |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 04:58:41 AM |
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Dion |
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Looking over the video again, it looks much more like a fake than before. There are alot of little things that hint towards a program solver. Notice the starting place is right in the corner. He works around in a loop and back to where he started. This is exactly where the transition between styles takes place. Suddenly his style becomes slow and smooth rather than jerky and fast. When the style changes he also begins to flag mines. Clearly the NF style would be much quicker to finish the last 10 seconds. Why change styles? |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 04:35:06 AM |
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Dave Morgan |
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Umm, how on earth did you manage to make 37 right clicks (in ~10 seconds), and yet only flag 12 mines? That is not the kind of efficiency I'd expect from some1 who can sub100, let alone get 41 |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 02:09:25 AM |
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Elmar |
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Stephan - Stevan, Potato - Potato.... ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 01:57:27 AM |
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Name: |
Dion |
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Haha, Sorry my mistake ![]() |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 01:14:18 AM |
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Stephan |
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Dion, please don't mix Stephan (Bechtel) and Stevan (Gvozdenovic)... I somehow believe in the theory of a computer program solving Stevan's 41 board for the first 30 seconds. That would explain his unnormal 7 clicks/sec (I tested yesterday, and even with extremely fast clicking, I couldn't get above 4.5 clicks/sec) and the unnormal playing of not clearing obviously mine-free squares, but clicking around wildly, hitting exactly all openings... Other question: Sorin, how does your recorder react on a minesweeper player that run's extremely slowly, e.g. due to other processes running parallely? If it runs in accordance with the speed of the game's internal timer, one can't tell afterwards. |
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Jan 21st 2004 at 01:01:44 AM |
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Name: |
Dion |
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I dont buy this 41 sec video For the first 30 secs or so the clicks/sec stays around exactly 7, no lower, no higher. You look at other peoples records are u see that the clicks/sec fluctuates. Try to explain that. Also your reason for the last 10 seconds or so as "very very confused" is utterly ridiculous. If you were so 'warmed' up as u said u wouldnt of been so confused. I have no doubt in my mind you are cheating Stephan. It's more like 10 years of hax0ring |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 09:51:18 PM |
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Lance |
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yikes.... nice conversation to interrupt. Just thought I'd mention to the community that the poll response to adding player profiles to the AR have been very positive, so we will do that beginning with Period 2. I will be taking suggestions as to whom should be highlighted, though I of course have many ideas of my own. Please feel free to email me at the AR account (active_ranking@hotmail.com) with questions or comments. HAPPY sweeping! Lance Round three... FIGHT! |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 02:48:12 PM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Best expert: |
41 |
Best intermediate: |
12 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
And that's funny about trustworthy, if I cheated I could go 47->46->45->...you know what I mean er? |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 02:45:26 PM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Best expert: |
41 |
Best intermediate: |
12 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
Georgi as I remember I've got 2 49s times and that half a year ago I think, many times I've got 40-50% finished est. 38-45 boards, but it does not count. This 77% finished est. 45 could count as "almost solved", and don't forget I did it with old Genius ![]() ![]() I think Sorin or this guy(I think Chris) better build new version of minesweeper without any cheating and with sending results on the Internet. It could be good one. And about "trusting", many people think I'm crazy when I tell them my record, and when I solve it under a minute they cannot close their mouth ![]() ![]() |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 02:31:22 PM |
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Georgi |
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First, Knowing what is the 3BV of the board may inform you that a great board is coming - possible record breaker, that also may force you to press F2 until you find a record-breaker board, not to play any over-160 3BV boards for example - that's the reason for such a feature that I proposed to Sorin - of course that can be accepted as cheat too ![]() And second, I don't want to accuse you Stevan, but Martin's 37 is much more acceptable than your 41. Why you choose to play for 41, when you could easily play 110 3BV for 35 seconds - the answer is simple - to look trustworthy and plausible. Jumps of 7 seconds are possible in above 60seconds ranges and more appropriate for pure non-flaggers. But your second sub-50 to be 41 ..... well, tell me what to think ... even if ignore that super suspicious video ![]() |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 02:25:58 PM |
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Name: |
Dennis Lütken |
Best expert: |
68 |
Best intermediate: |
13 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
The counter froze after I had broken my int record so the record wasn't save in Minesweeper... Martin, you fixed it the last time so could you maybe do that again? I don't want it to say 14 when my record is 13! ![]() By the way, I got a new int record for flaggin as well. I'm sure what my old record was but I think it was around 21 or 22 seconds. Anyway, I just got an 18 on a 43 3bv board! Nice! ![]() |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 12:16:25 PM |
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Stevan |
Best expert: |
41 |
Best intermediate: |
12 |
Comments: |
OK, Elmar I'm not so good in English, so one not or no is probably missing ![]() |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 12:15:32 PM |
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Elmar |
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I doubt that you know the meaning of the word "doubt". Sorry about that one, but it was screaming right at me. ![]() |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 12:09:38 PM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Best expert: |
41 |
Best intermediate: |
12 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
Martin, If I would know where are mines before game then I would cheat on some low 100-110 3BV board not on 138 3BV ![]() And what now, I really doubt that some of you use that reader. |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 12:04:50 PM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Best expert: |
41 |
Best intermediate: |
12 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
And Georgi your explanation about Sorin is funny. Why he needs to know 3bv BEFORE the game starts?!? 3BV of the board is written at the END of the game ![]() ![]() |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 12:02:13 PM |
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Martin Toft Madsen |
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Yes, I have seen your est. 45 and I think that's real. But that was also on a ~110 3BV board (~2.4-2.5 3BV/sec). Maybe you've got a 48, I don't know, that very well could be, but I also find the 41 video very suspisious ![]() Besides, I posted a cheated 37 vid not long ago. It's not very difficult to remember a good board, it's maybe 5-10 places/rows that you have to click and the rest is just playing as fast as you can. |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 12:00:57 PM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Best expert: |
41 |
Best intermediate: |
12 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
And you don't have to buy it, however ![]() And it's not just luck. |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 11:56:54 AM |
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Name: |
Dennis Lütken |
Best expert: |
68 |
Best intermediate: |
14x2 --> 13! |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
Wohoo! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I just finished a really nice board with only one opening in 13.16 seconds! SO close to getting a 12 but it's still always nice to get a new record. It was a 39 3bv board and I've had it once before a long time ago. I don't remember how fast I finished it back then but I do know that I've always loved those boards with only one opening! ![]() ![]() My total is now 82! I can't wait to go sub-80 but it might take a while before that happens... I don't think I'll be able to improve much more on int since there aren't many boards THAT nice out there and on expert I was really lucky to get that 68 I guess because my second best expert score is still only 73! ![]() ![]() ![]() Oh, I almost forgot... Stevan, that's just bullsh*t! No one can play a game like you did! Yes, luck does exist but not in such huge amounts! Sorry, I just don't buy it! ![]() |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 11:40:46 AM |
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Stevan |
Best expert: |
41 |
Best intermediate: |
12 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
Explanation is mainly luck, instinct and 10 year playing experience, and new Logi optical mouse of course ![]() ![]() I've not accused Georgi for cheating, but I just doubt for everybody else, nothing more, I believe but I doubt, that's it. And for last 10s I was very very confused with situation. I have vid of 77% finished est. 45 and I've sent it to Martin Madsen. In that game I haven't used NF at all, moreover I was not warmed up, so if I can do it in 45 cold I can do it in 41 warmed up, so what's wrong?!? And I didn't know for Sorin recorder till Georgi told me. |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 11:20:00 AM |
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Elmar |
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Nobody said you could memorize an entire board. That's probably why the last 14secs are so incredibly slow. ![]() To accuse Georgi of cheating, that's a good one. ![]() But what's your explanation for hitting all the openings? I'm looking forward to reading it... ![]() |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 11:05:57 AM |
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Name: |
Stevan |
Best expert: |
41 |
Best intermediate: |
12 |
Best beginner: |
1 |
Comments: |
?!? I really don't know what you are talking about, and I went to this page and still can't realize how you think I can remember whole board?!? Anyway if so I would solve it in 31 not in 41 seconds, no offence man but then I doubt any of you are no cheating, cause seems you know for this very long time. |
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Jan 20th 2004 at 09:31:09 AM |
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David Morgan |
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Ok, sorry if it seems like every other message at the moment is from me, but... That program is very worrying (not least because it was written in C# ![]() 1) makes that kind of program impossible (don't know how that is, I've not read the full description of how it works yet), or 2) at least prevents that particular program from working on it, even if modifying it to work on the new version isn't too hard, then we'd have to hope that no-one bothered making it work with our new version |
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