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Mar 16th 2003 at 05:02:01 AM
Name:  

Mindy

Comments:  

hey nice site you got here. i enjoyed reading and looking at it. can you check my site out? i'd appreciate if the people who are reading this can check it as well. thanks for your time, and keep up the good work!

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Mar 16th 2003 at 04:32:33 AM
Name:  

Jon S

Comments:  

this link should work (hopefully)

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Mar 16th 2003 at 04:30:52 AM
Name:  

Jon S

Comments:  

I finally finished an expert board with 140 mines. I'll try to get it up on my homepage soon. I've been trying to improve the homepage a little lately. Does anyone know where I can find some straightforward script to make tables and/or pull-down menus? I tried to view the sourcecode for the "halloffame" video page, but I didn't quite understand everything.

I'll also check if I transferred the 258 3BV expert board to my new homepage.

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Mar 16th 2003 at 03:43:55 AM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Comments:  

@Neil: I think it's hard to see too. Maybe you could make the red 3's so that they would form 'addicted' or something Maybe it would be easier to see, but also harder to make.

@Roelof: I'm pretty fed up with int too...

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Mar 16th 2003 at 02:03:47 AM
Name:  

Roelof Smit

Comments:  

I don't know the first thing about the technical aspect op minesweeper, so I don't want to join in the discussion. That's also the reason why I didn't think I was capable enough for a place in the Congress.

I know the Congress is working on a decision, but it seems very hard to draw the line between cheating and not-cheating. By the feel of it, I'd say both Roli and Steffen are cheating (although they probably don't want to). As I said, I don't know enough about it to say these things, I just play(ed) the game and that's it.

So, wouldn't the best solution be: dropping both beginner and intermediate? Expert scores seem to be the most reliable ones after all.

I just got fed up with all this... am I too radical?

Mar 15th 2003 at 05:01:48 PM
Name:  

Neil M (aka: Blindmage)

Comments:  

Martin, do you think the "addicted" board would look good on a shirt?....i think it's surprisingly hard to read.....mabey that's cause i have bad eyes....

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Mar 15th 2003 at 04:53:26 PM
Name:  

Neil M (aka: Blindmage)

Comments:  

i feel pround of myself...i just beat the hardest int board ever 112 3BV!!!

http://www.hostultra.com/~blindmage/83win_112_3bv.jpg

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Mar 15th 2003 at 03:39:02 PM
Name:  

lukasz malinowski

Comments:  

hi. i have started to play again after long minesweeper holidays and i got couple nice scores, including 49s. recently i have bought a new computer with a logitech optical mouse. it's used by several players, including lasse if i'm not wrong. and previously i used a normal logitech mouse. i don't know why, but i miss to click a lot of squares and it forces me to play slower. maybe it's about getting used to it, i hope so.

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Mar 15th 2003 at 03:14:13 PM
Name:  

Roli

Comments:  

@Steffen: Okay, so itīs exactly how I thought. I was sure that your 1 was done same way. Also I was mostly pissed, because it seemed that you really think that you would come through with it and that it would be "minesweepermorally" right. Well, at least good to know that I could predict almost every step you would take to crash the Minesweeper system since your hatred showed up formerly.
@Others: Iīm in favor of a new game. How about stopping active-ranking for a short time and everyone who can helps with the new game?!

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Mar 15th 2003 at 03:08:23 PM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Best expert:  

63

Best intermediate:  

18x5

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

Scores the last 24 hours: 68, 69, 69, 70, 71, 73, 74, 82, 82.
I usually only finish a couple of boards a day, but I guess I have swept a lot today
Status so far: 49 sub80's and 6 sub70's

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Mar 15th 2003 at 01:43:24 PM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Comments:  

Ok, now the 'addicted' board is on my site

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Mar 15th 2003 at 12:58:20 PM
Name:  

Steffen

Comments:  

Hey,
of course i showed several times, that i can do sub15 on any good board. My best non-db time is a 11. but even that was not the first time i got it. i said it earlier before : there are no 50 boards one can do a sub14 on... someone said that one cant trust me now anyway and i think its even right. i can find a good board, and i know i can get it soon again. thats the thing. btw, my 1 in beg. was a similar thing. i knew that this board would show up. (sry about that but i hate the timer bug) if i want i can have the db tomorrow again(but not with any kind of program). but iīm not the one to blame for that.
@roli f course i still want a minesweeper without cycles.
@manu :your right too, if i play like that, weīre playing different games, but this started when roli began to do so, i just made a next step, because recently it seemed to me, that nothing would happen in order to get that new minesweeper.
i decided not to send in my scores until the new minesweeper is there. i dont want to seem like a hero, if this step gives the impression. iīll do so because i was even more pissed off than he seems now - when he did the db in 9 seconds. so i know what others must feel like.

Mar 15th 2003 at 12:58:14 PM
Name:  

Roli

Comments:  

I think the difference is that I never knew when the dreamboard came up. I didnīt know about the cycles, I didnīt know how they worked. I just experienced that with more and more playing some boards repeat themselves. My nine didnīt differ to Mattīs 10, because always starting in the same places is not forbidden. Only new thing I did was making more moves which couldnīt have been done without knowledge.
I didnīt get the dreamboard again since then, īcause I reduced Inter-playingtime from 8 hours to 10 min. a day!

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Mar 15th 2003 at 06:24:30 AM
Name:  

Stephan

Comments:  

@Manu: I think Jon Simonsen posted a 258 3BV board on his website, what might be the highest one ever.

@Roli: I agree with Manu. I can't see the significant difference between your 9 and Steffen's 9.

I'm still wondering what was Steffen's goal. He showed more than once that he can do a sub-15 on an by-chance-board. After this story, it's hard to believe in any score. As congress member, I hope, we'll find a decision soon.

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Mar 15th 2003 at 06:15:31 AM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Comments:  

The highest 3BV I can remember I have got is 230, and the highest in a game that I have finished is 225 in 92 sec.
I have actaully tried to make a board in which the flags typed "addicted"... I will upload it to my homepage later so you guys can see it for yourself

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Mar 15th 2003 at 05:48:59 AM
Name:  

Manu

Comments:  

@Roli : I must say that I can't see the difference between you and Steffen. Are you going to try and make us believe that getting 6 or 7 times the DB in a few weeks ( months ) until you got that 9, and never getting it since then ( or at least never mentionned ) is pure coincidence ?

@Neil : No idea of how to make such a board, except to build it square after square, which would take ages, and for a poor result I guess... any idea ?

Last night I met a 245 3BV board, what is the higher that has been encountered so far ? I also missed a 52 with 3 squares left ( but 2 guesses to make... )

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Mar 15th 2003 at 05:05:17 AM
Name:  

Yannig

Best expert:  

87

Best intermediate:  

23

Best beginner:  

3

Comments:  

I think Steffen is pretty dumb. There are much better boards than the DB. A week ago somebody posted a board with 23 3bv!!! That board is much better than the DB and can be done in less time, and the best is, nobody knows it! Why does he always play the board everybody knows about?

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Mar 15th 2003 at 03:37:43 AM
Name:  

Roli

Comments:  

Well well, as if this wasnīt Suspicious Steffen, the great protector of what minesweeper is about, the one, who doesnīt want to know about cycles, who only wants to play minesweeper. 2 quotes from him that I somehow canīt unite:

1. But may be Iīll write tomorrow because i know that after 3 hours of (more) playing iīll will have the Dreamboard once more.

2. After 3 hours of playing all of a sudden the DB was there.

Probably all of you think that Iīm not the one allowed to attack this style of playing, but to my mind our 9īs have a great difference. While he obviously knew about when he gets the dreamboard, I only trusted in my luck and tried to be prepared, whenever it showed up again. To my mind hitting F2 until to the next board is no difference to letting a program play those games inbetween.
At first I thought: Oh, he did it my way. Someone had to do it. Wonder only that it was him! But when I saw how he really did it?! He uses the tactics that came up in suspicion against me, which got disproven, but seemed to be a good idea for him.
In my opinion Mattīs 10 and my 9 are basically the same style: Playing a known board as good as possible, whenever it shows up.
Steffens 9 seems to be a longhandpreparation. Maybe he wishes all those records to be neglected in one consideration (despite of the great difference) and accumulatively keeping his 11 as a normal game. Who can tell, if it is not known by heart, just differently to keep away suspicion?!
Sorry Steffen, but I think youīre the cheater, because you knew it couldnīt be accepted this way BEFORE you played so, but did it anyway... Congress thing!

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Mar 15th 2003 at 02:46:35 AM
Name:  

Manu

Best expert:  

53

Best intermediate:  

12

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

Steffen already explained how he plays : he knows about 40 boards and their position in the cycles. He said that he can get at least 1 great board every 10 minutes. My opinion is that ALL intermediate times from Steffen must be considered like.. undecided. Who can tell that even the 11 he got was in a legal way ( I mean that he played it with no idea of the board before playing it ) ?
Sorry Steffen , I have nothing against you, I just consider that we're not playing the same game, and that we mustn't be listed in the same list.

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Mar 15th 2003 at 01:02:59 AM
Name:  

Roelof Smit

Comments:  

Indeed, thanks Martin.

Steffen is listed with an 11 and Damien got a 12, so Steffen got the best int time after all.

Mar 14th 2003 at 04:23:34 PM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Best expert:  

63

Best intermediate:  

18x5

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

Just got a 69 sec on a 181 3BV board

@Matt: I think Roelof was talking about Steffen's 11, which is already listed.

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Mar 14th 2003 at 03:48:21 PM
Name:  

Lance Votroubek

Comments:  

To reply to Matt's question: no, from my trial, non-members cannot read or (of course) post to the congress' yahoo group. but if you were to open it up, that would defeat the purpose of the group. Maybe just post pertinent messages to the other group?

Lance

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Mar 14th 2003 at 03:11:34 PM
Name:  

Matt

Comments:  

Not if youre talking about his 9. Its being tossed into the same pile as ROli's 9...undecided.

Mar 14th 2003 at 02:53:25 PM
Name:  

Roelof Smit

Comments:  

Oh, and Dan, Steffen got the best int score for this period, not Damien.

Mar 14th 2003 at 02:50:01 PM
Name:  

Roelof Smit

Comments:  

I don't send those e-mails anymore since I can't work with Outlook. But I didn't get your scores Sorin, otherwise you would have been on the list of course.

As for Martin: I just checked my notepad file and it included your scores, so I don't know what went wrong.

In my opinion, both of you can be listed with your best scores of last period.

Mar 14th 2003 at 02:36:31 PM
Name:  

Sorin

Comments:  

What is going on here!? I send the scores yesterday! Roelof, you still send confirmation emails? I posted my scores here too 3-13-53. Is there a chance that I will be listed with those?

Mar 14th 2003 at 02:24:14 PM
Name:  

Matt

Comments:  

Steffen, we're working on reaching a decision as far as your 9 and Roli's 9.

Can non-congress members view the site?

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/winmine_congress/

Mar 14th 2003 at 02:22:33 PM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Comments:  

Hmmm... I sent my scores exactly at 20:00 GMT and they aren't on the AR...
Doesn't matter that much since my scores were 3+18+66=87, and now they are 83+5=88...

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Mar 14th 2003 at 02:01:19 PM
Name:  

Dan

Comments:  

Active Ranking has been updated.

Mar 14th 2003 at 02:00:09 PM
Name:  

Steffen

Best expert:  

53

Comments:  

Just got the DB once more.But i "only" did it in 10 sec. This would (if it was allowed) have been 9,10,11,12,13,14,15... all in one period

Mar 14th 2003 at 01:13:49 PM
Name:  

Neil M (aka: Blindmage)

Comments:  

manu, you make the pic and i'll put it on a shirt.....i can only have 2 different styles...which one should go?

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Mar 14th 2003 at 12:34:37 PM
Name:  

Kimmo

Best expert:  

55

Best intermediate:  

16

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

Jon S:

My best 24*30 board finish is 205 mines. I also know that someone has made 210. I haven't played beg, int, exp with custom options but maybe I'll give it a try.

Mar 14th 2003 at 11:56:11 AM
Name:  

Oscar

Best expert:  

98

Best intermediate:  

33

Best beginner:  

3

Comments:  

A little dilligence overnight, and now I got some better scores. At least on the smaller ones. Anyway, I appreciate the info on the double-click stuff, I'll put that to good use.

Mar 14th 2003 at 11:45:02 AM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Best expert:  

63

Best intermediate:  

18

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

Todd, I don't know your playing style, but make sure not to flag too much. Other than that I can say that the time you get on intermediate is very depending on the board you get. Some boards are just too tough to get a good score on.

Personelly I'm stuck at 18 sec. I've now gotten 18 sec 5 times, and I'm beginning to get a little tired of it...

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Mar 14th 2003 at 10:45:01 AM
Name:  

Leah

Best expert:  

98

Best intermediate:  

?

Best beginner:  

?

Comments:  

Hey, this is a really cool site! I'm glad I'm not the only one addicted to this game. Yeah, I admit it, I thought I was pretty good until I saw those low 50's scores. Wow! Keep up the good work.

Mar 14th 2003 at 09:27:34 AM
Name:  

Todd Gillette

Best expert:  

81

Best intermediate:  

23

Best beginner:  

3

Comments:  

I can see how people are amazing enough to get those expert scores (and beginner of course), but I cannot seem to even get close to my previous best intermediate score of 23. I feel like a few times way back when I'd gotten close to getting 18, but I'm rarely getting under 30 when I try now. Anyone with tips on the intermediate board?

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Mar 14th 2003 at 07:03:47 AM
Name:  

Marc Schouten

Comments:  

Oscar:

Double-clicking in Minesweeper means clicking both the left and right button at the same time. If you double click on a number, the game checks all 8 squares around it. If the number of flags in those 8 squares is the same as the number, it clears all remaining squares at the same time.

Be aware that it does this, regardless of whether the flags you placed are placed correctly (i.e.: there's really a mine in that square), so if you misplace a flag and double-click a number next to it, you'll lose the game.



Mar 14th 2003 at 02:58:41 AM
Name:  

Jon S

Comments:  

Hmmm. I haven't been playing much minesweeper lately. Only some custom games. My records are now:

beginner:31 mines
intermediate:83 mines
expert:130 mines
24x30:200 mines

I've been working on 140 mines for expert lately. A couple of days ago, I managed to screw up a board with about 80% possibility to finish. It was max. 2 mines in 15 squares
Anyway, what are the records for such custom games? Maybe someone could create a list over the best players?

Have anyone tried to play Beginner with 49 mines? I've managed to open 9 of the 16 non-mine squares. It should be a reasonable possibility that someone could finish it if they played it a lot. Unfortunately, it's not the most exciting thing to do.

Mar 13th 2003 at 09:41:45 PM
Name:  

Oscar Benz

Best expert:  

98

Best intermediate:  

41

Best beginner:  

5

Comments:  

Could Someone please explain to me what this double-click thingy is! I think it might really improve my game if I knew what it was.

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Mar 13th 2003 at 09:41:10 PM
Name:  

Oscar Benz

Best expert:  

98

Best intermediate:  

41

Best beginner:  

5

Comments:  

Could Someone please explain to me what this double-click thingy is! I think it might really improve my game if I knew what it was.

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Mar 13th 2003 at 12:54:17 PM
Name:  

Manu

Comments:  

For the first time this afternoon I have been a "professionnal minesweeper"... Maybe some of you know that I am a teacher... Well, this afternoon, I had only 2 pupils in my class, so i decided to explain them the game of minesweeper ! Only for the mathematical aspect of it of course It was fun..... to see how rubbish they were at it !!

Georgi : I have accidentally lost your adress, please email me again so that I can answer your last message thanks.

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Mar 13th 2003 at 08:04:12 AM
Name:  

Joe

Best expert:  

93->88->88

Comments:  

in the last two days i've improved from 101 to 88. I began employing the double click to get faster. I used to just use both buttons separately. 3/13/03

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Mar 13th 2003 at 06:53:33 AM
Name:  

Active Ranking

Comments:  

**** Deadline Friday @ 20:00 GMT/3pm EST ****

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Mar 13th 2003 at 06:24:37 AM
Name:  

Daniel Lynch

Best intermediate:  

18

Comments:  

Just got my second highest intermedate time. 19 seconds on a 39 3BV board. Sweet.

Mar 13th 2003 at 04:16:59 AM
Name:  

Daniel Lynch

Best expert:  

88 -> 86 -> 84

Best intermediate:  

18

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

Getting there. What once was 7 seconds away is now only 5...
(I look forward to the day when I can claim the dubious distinction of having the highest expert score on the sub 100 list)

Mar 12th 2003 at 11:24:56 PM
Name:  

Lasse Nyholm

Comments:  

the server I'm on, was hacked a couple of days ago, they're still trying to get it back up and running. sorry.

- Lanyjé

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Mar 12th 2003 at 05:26:32 PM
Name:  

Dan

Comments:  

gg, I am also unable to connect to Lasse's site.

Mar 12th 2003 at 04:37:54 PM
Name:  

LoPeSTaR KoS MaFiA

Comments:  

I'm bored at work so I thrash the shit out of minesweepers, just lookin for some cheats...so eat a dick while I bomb on Sydney trains...hip hop lokos

Mar 12th 2003 at 03:19:27 PM
Name:  

gg

Comments:  

hey Lasse i can't get into your site? Is there something wrong with my connection. Are anybody had the same problem?

Mar 12th 2003 at 03:04:02 PM
Name:  

Sorin

Comments:  

If I wanted to fake a board then I would have made sure that I get all the squares right. Even Daniela did that... There is no way that Martin would have faked that. Come on guys, you really believed that?

Mar 12th 2003 at 02:26:55 PM
Name:  

Marc Schouten

Comments:  

Bleh... That's the second time this week I missed a sub-50 on the last square. This time, I screwed up because I missed one earlier. 48 seconds on the timer.

Mar 12th 2003 at 02:26:51 PM
Name:  

Marc Schouten

Comments:  

Bleh... That's the second time this week I missed a sub-50 on the last square. This time, I screwed up because I missed one earlier. 48 seconds on the timer.

Mar 12th 2003 at 12:31:10 PM
Name:  

James

Comments:  

Everyone laugh at Martin . Just kidding, it was an honest mistake, and yes, I have experienced false 3BVs before too.

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Mar 12th 2003 at 08:20:31 AM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Comments:  

Hey! Who's the creator of Minesweeper Reader? I want to hold him responsible for my humiliation!

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Mar 12th 2003 at 07:29:43 AM
Name:  

Steffen

Comments:  

Hey Martin, put that fake again where it was! I wanna laugh just like Manu did, eh...

Mar 12th 2003 at 06:30:16 AM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Comments:  

Ok, now I've uploaded a modified version of the board. I think it must have looked like that. Now it's 35 3BV...
Guess it must have been Minesweeper Reader that screwed up... haven't you guys experienced that? I have experienced it more than a couple of times, and I only use it for beg boards because my Minesweeper Counter only works on int and exp, because I normally use Minesweeper from WinXP, and I can't use that on beg (9x9).

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Mar 12th 2003 at 06:12:26 AM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Comments:  

Ok...
1) It's not a joke, it's not a fake
2) I see the obvious mistake on that board
3) Since I seldom save 'real' screenshots of my beg games, I just used Minesweeper Reader to save the board in *.mrb. I have noticed that this program sommetimes makes flaws when it reads and saves (don't now why). This is what must have happend. I think it's taking the right row and place it on the left side of the board. Hasn't any of you guys experienced that?
4) Why would anyone make a fake 43 3BV beginner board... come on!

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Mar 12th 2003 at 04:48:05 AM
Name:  

Manu

Best expert:  

53

Best intermediate:  

12

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

Yes, he's probably joking... I must admit that the sreenshot made me laugh !
It would be funny to create boards where mines would make a picture, or a word or something else... Neil, you could do that on a T-shirt : an expert board where the 99 mines would write "addicted" for exemple ! Congrats for your "store" and sorry for not noticing it earlier !!

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Mar 12th 2003 at 03:38:22 AM
Name:  

Roelof Smit

Comments:  

This might well be the worst fake I have seen since I play the game. Martin, please tell us that you were trying to joke us...

Mar 11th 2003 at 11:34:35 PM
Name:  

James

Comments:  

I don't think that Martin was lying. He likely believed what he said. If he was trying to hide the truth I am sure he would have been sneakier than to post the SC on his website.

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Mar 11th 2003 at 11:30:09 PM
Name:  

Georgi Kermekchiev

Comments:  

Martin,

Don't let us doubt about your record scores

It's a kind of 'Daniela' syndrome ...

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Mar 11th 2003 at 10:18:38 PM
Name:  

Lance Votroubek

Comments:  

Just lost a 104 3bv expert board... I got tripped up in a tricky area in the top left corner. Despite this board's low 3bv value, it was not easy (read: there were many guesses to be made). Email me for a screenshot.

Lance

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Mar 11th 2003 at 09:26:10 PM
Name:  

Elmar

Comments:  

Why would anyone fake a board's 3bv? and it's so obvious too.
so i guees my 29 3bv in 10 secs isn't so bad after all.

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Mar 11th 2003 at 08:44:23 PM
Name:  

Matthew

Best expert:  

75

Best intermediate:  

20 --> 19

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

Movin on up (movin on up.)

Mar 11th 2003 at 08:23:18 PM
Name:  

Neil (aka Blindmage)

Best expert:  

118

Best intermediate:  

30

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

Manu, thanks for noticing my store. What do you think of the stuff?

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Mar 11th 2003 at 07:34:09 PM
Name:  

Mike

Comments:  

Years ago, I used to have an old Mac, which had a slow pokey version called Minefield. PC Minesweeper on Windows XP is superior in every way EXCEPT ONE. Suppose I clear the board, down to a few uncleared spaces, and there are only a few bombs left. Suppose the remaining clues do not uniquely determine the pattern of those remaining bombs --- say, there are two or three possible configurations. The old Mindfield game would count as a win either (a) all non-bombs cleared, or (b) all bombs marked. PC Minesweeper counts only the former as a win, not the latter, meaning that many otherwise skillfully played games are reduced to a simple one-or-the-other guessing game at the end. I think this is deplorable. What do others think? Does anyone know how I might go about contacting the authors of PC Minesweeper to lodge this complaint?

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Mar 11th 2003 at 06:18:25 PM
Name:  

August

Comments:  

Yeah Martin... the ol' 1-2-1 pattern on the left side of the board kinda gives that one away... I wonder what would motivate someone to post a fake high 3BV though?

Mar 11th 2003 at 05:25:30 PM
Name:  

Paul

Comments:  

Beginner board is a very bad fake. Shame that a community that relies on honesty has something like that.

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Mar 11th 2003 at 05:19:39 PM
Name:  

James

Comments:  

Martin: I count 23 3bv on that board.

1008 sub-50s . I have only finnished about 150 expert boards in 14 months (115 sub-100s). I am on pace for exactly 0 sub-50s and maybe 1000 finnished games (only if my girlfriend doesnt make me quit first ).

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Mar 11th 2003 at 03:46:06 PM
Name:  

Marc Schouten

Comments:  

Martin:
I checked your homepage.

Still: no way.

Mar 11th 2003 at 03:39:49 PM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Comments:  

Lasse, isn't that second time that happens? I'm sure you'll hit the right square next time

Marc, check my homepage...

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Mar 11th 2003 at 03:21:29 PM
Name:  

Marc Schouten

Comments:  

Errmm... That 43 3bv board...

No way.

Mar 11th 2003 at 03:21:24 PM
Name:  

Lasse Nyholm

Comments:  

grr.. more than 1000 sub-50s (1008 to be accurate) and still no sub-40, though I could have had one an hour ago, but guessed wrong on the last 50/50 with 39 on the clock on a nice 111-3BV board. grr..

- Lanyjé

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Mar 11th 2003 at 02:41:41 PM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Comments:  

Typing error in the homepage link. Fixed now. It's http://www.geocities.com/herpezp/

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Mar 11th 2003 at 02:39:44 PM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Comments:  

Now I've added the screenshot of the 43 3BV game on beg to my homepage.

Manu, I guess you're a bit late. It was Neil M. who made the page: http://www.cafeshops.com/winmine
I'm still trying to make som smiley with sunglasses to put on a T-shirt, but it's not easy to make it look good.

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Mar 11th 2003 at 01:47:58 PM
Name:  

Manu

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43 3BV ? Amazing ! Maximum would be 54 for beginner. If an expert board had the same ratio 3BV/free squares, it would give a 303 3BV board !

Did you know guys that minesweeper T-shirts were sold at this adress : http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/store.aspx?s=winmine.0 ??? Or am I late once more ?

Mar 11th 2003 at 12:52:34 PM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

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I saw that Elmar had a screenshot of a 29 3BV beginner board on his page. I have had a 43 3BV (!!!). I will put it on my website if anyone is interested.

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Mar 11th 2003 at 12:08:50 PM
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Active Ranking

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**** Deadline Friday @ 20:00 GMT/3pm EST ****

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Mar 11th 2003 at 11:59:08 AM
Name:  

Manu

Best intermediate:  

A "real" 12

Comments:  

Thanks Lance . It was informative... I have missed thing during summer 2001 !

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Mar 11th 2003 at 11:58:21 AM
Name:  

Elmar

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sorry, it's:
138->139->145

Mar 11th 2003 at 11:56:38 AM
Name:  

Elmar Zimmermann

Best expert:  

61x3!

Best intermediate:  

14

Best beginner:  

1x2

Comments:  

got another 61 3bv: 130->138->145!
follow the link to see all three on video
btw that was also my 100th sub70


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Mar 11th 2003 at 09:11:13 AM
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Lance Votroubek

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(see previous two posts) the rest after that cut point was just him saying he would entertain questions via email. Two things: 1) He never posted more results or trials from this program, probably because he's a busy guy 2) Don't email him for info about that program. He doesn't have it any more, he says it was on his laptop that got stolen from him. It does seem that his fear of people abusing their knowledge of the loop has come true though, and that Intermediate is truly stuffed for the people who try only or mainly for the dreamboard. It'd be great if people would just play the game for fun without abusing its quirks, and for those who do, that level still holds some value. When the "new" minesweeper game that someone is developing comes out, maybe int. will regain some significance, but for now, the dreamboard has crashed the level. I hope this was informative!

Lance

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Mar 11th 2003 at 09:01:26 AM
Name:  

Lance Votroubek

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(starts below, next msg) I can't get an exact number because it seems like the program doesn't always hit the smiley face and start a new game all the time. But in the better trials, the gap between boards was about 14870 to 14900.

The dream board came up twice in each of the first two trials, and each time it did, the twenty preceding boards were the same, as well as the first few that followed. I assume that if I could be bothered to check, the twenty and few would become thousands. It did not show in the third trial, even though a full loop of boards was completed. After running it, I then started doing the same thing as the program, starting in the top-left, clicking across the board, and checking to see if that board had come up. It didn't in five tries. Statisticians may like a bigger sample size, but they will have to wait till tomorrow for that, because I'm too tired and lazy right now. Also, on the third trial (and maybe the others, I'll check tomorrow), despite there being a complete loop (two in fact), the frist few boards only showed up once. In conclusion, I have more to do. I will post results here when meaningful ones come through. Now, onto other issues dealing with this... This program, once a bug or two has been ironed out, could quite easily be abused. eg, I run the program, it finds a few boards, then I search for where they come in the great order of boards. I then see how many to go until the dream board, then let the program do the 3000 boards or whatever, leaving about 10 remaining before I get the dream board. I then watch Matt's 10 video over and over, play the board, hopefully get a 9 or whatever, then run the program again for 14800 boards, and repeat ad infinitum. Having thought about this, I kind of hope that there is something extra going into the randomising of the boards, and that it is not just the bugs in my program that are making it look that way. (cotd)

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Mar 11th 2003 at 08:58:21 AM
Name:  

Lance Votroubek

Best expert:  

58

Best intermediate:  

15

Best beginner:  

1

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because of the recent renewed interest/curiousity in board cycles on intermediate, I dug into the archives and found the first instance of someone doing an actual test to determine board cylces. It was David Barry, back in August of 2001. I am going to repost his posts, by permission, so that some of the newer people can see how it works. Intermediate has been dead for a long time, guys! Here ya go:

Hello there everyone, I have some new light and darkness to shed upon the "finite loop" of boards. A few days ago I mentioned to Damien that what we need is some good Windows programmer to write a program that records all of the boards. I thought that this would have to be done in C++, so I figured that I wouldn't be able to get anything like that working before the end of the year, but as luck would have it, I typed Windows API into Google and one of the top sites was an extensive reference for Visual Basic, which I have a reasonable grasp of. The API in VB turned out to be very simple to use, and a few hours later I had a program that played a Minesweeper Intermediate board and wrote it to file (actually about 160 boards per file, to save space). I made the program run just over 33000 boards (figuring that there would be 2^15 = 32768, hoping that there weren't 2^30 = 65536). It started by clicking in the top-left corner, and moving across square by square, going down to the next row after 16 clicks. As the first square is never a mine, this will not be a 100% accurate method, but by being consistent, at least the loops should show themselves. The program isn't bug-proof, and I can't be bothered trying to work out precisely what's wrong with it, but here are some early results: Firstly, I ran the program three times, with the second trial giving loads of missed nwe games (see next paragraph), the third trial giving a few and the first trial looking fairly good. The finite loop of boards seems to last about 14875 boards or so. (cotd)

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Mar 11th 2003 at 08:07:02 AM
Name:  

Alex Allison

Best expert:  

203

Best intermediate:  

30

Best beginner:  

6

Comments:  

WOW
i never realized how big minesweeper really was. I use to beleive i was somewhat good at minesweeper but i realized i am nothing. I can't seem to break my records. I can always meet them and get close, but i can't seem to break the barrier. If anyone has any tips for me, feel free to email.
Happy Sweeping

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Mar 11th 2003 at 07:24:38 AM
Name:  

Blair Walden

Best expert:  

75

Best intermediate:  

23

Best beginner:  

1

Comments:  

I used to play just to pass the time when I was talking to my girlfriend on the phone, now it has turned into an addiction. I started getting some low scores and I wanted to see how everyone else in the world does. It was then, after I checked this website, that I realized how big minesweeper was. I never knew there were cheats, and after seeing the criteria to make the top 100 list, I have strived and finally gotten all three of my scores combined below 100. I'm still working on tearing down my Expert time, as well as my Intermediate Time. The Beginner Time of 1 was pure luck, I just clicked and everything opened up. Email me with some tips or if you'd just like to chat.

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Mar 11th 2003 at 07:13:45 AM
Name:  

Yannig

Best expert:  

87

Best intermediate:  

23

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

How can there ba a cycle in int?? I thought it was pure random (also there is no real "pure" random)??

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Mar 11th 2003 at 06:45:54 AM
Name:  

Daniel Lynch

Best intermediate:  

18

Comments:  

I didn't realise that Intermediate was so dead. I'm happy in my ignorance of its workings.

Thanks for the hand with the 3BV of my board Georgi and those that offered. I now have the 3BV counter working too.

Happy Sweeping to all.

Mar 11th 2003 at 03:35:37 AM
Name:  

Steffen

Comments:  

Manu, if you know the distance between the good boards, it is good to press the f2 button for a longer time. I have been playing so much int the last days, in order to find out, how long i have to do that, to come back to the same board on the one hand, and how long i have to do that, to come from one good board to another. I gues, with my knowledge of only 30-50 boards, i can now find any board i can do 14 or better in not more than 15 min. Its not what it is about. I just wanted to know. Eh, damn cycle, iīll stay at exp now...!

Mar 11th 2003 at 12:51:04 AM
Name:  

Roelof Smit

Comments:  

Just the scores you get once manogna.

Mar 10th 2003 at 08:05:44 PM
Name:  

manogna

Best expert:  

99

Best intermediate:  

32

Best beginner:  

4

Comments:  

hi, are the best scores the ones you get just once, or those that you can keep repeating. i have equalled each of my best scores(except expert) several times, but have never been able to break it.

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Mar 10th 2003 at 04:27:21 PM
Name:  

Marc Schouten

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Well... 400 might be a bit high. Somewhere between 200 and 300 is more likely.

Mar 10th 2003 at 04:26:29 PM
Name:  

Marc Schouten

Comments:  

I haven't kept any stats, Sorin, so I really don't know. Somewhere between 200 and 400, I think.

Mar 10th 2003 at 04:14:59 PM
Name:  

Sorin

Comments:  

How many sub 60s you have so far Marc? It seems you are endeed in good form. I have 3-13-53=69 for this AR so you're just a tiny bit ahead

9 - no comment

Mar 10th 2003 at 04:09:28 PM
Name:  

ruanyi

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

Congrats Steffen !

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Mar 10th 2003 at 04:06:17 PM
Name:  

Marc Schouten

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Well... I'm on a roll today. Just got 5 or 6 sub-60s in a row. Don't think I ever did that before. Best one was a 51. That means scores for this period so far exactly the same as last period: 3-15-51(69).

I'm finally at a point where I get more sub-60s than 60+s (if I'm warmed up, that is). I think that given the right, very low 3bv board, I could definitely sub-45, perhaps even come close to 40.

Mar 10th 2003 at 03:16:10 PM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Comments:  

Daniel, you can send it to me if you like to

Manu: There are approx. 12000 boards in a cycle... if you restart a game every second you get 3600 games per hour. This makes about 10800 games in 3 hours...

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Mar 10th 2003 at 01:42:35 PM
Name:  

Daniel Lynch

Best expert:  

88 -> 86

Best intermediate:  

18

Best beginner:  

2

Comments:  

I know it's not much but it's the best I've been able to finish. I had a 50/50 77sec miss and another with (what would have been) a late 60's finish. Still, anything is welcome. Now all I need to do is claw in those 7 outstanding seconds...


I'd appreciate if someone would agree to analyse the board for the 3BV. I can't get the program I have to work. Just leave a message with your email (or email me directly) and I'll send it on. Thanks.

Happy Sweeping to all.

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Mar 10th 2003 at 12:25:56 PM
Name:  

Manu

Comments:  

Steffen, you don't want to tell how you knew yesterday that the DB would come today ???

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Mar 10th 2003 at 12:13:47 PM
Name:  

Martin Toft Madsen

Comments:  

Congrats Steffen
But I must admit that I'm very close to give up int for good... stuffed, stuffed, stuffed

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